I also can’t skydive or other things.  Does it matter?

If a man has standards, it’s impossible for him to date American women. All the great men of history, they all demanded virgins. Only the bottom of the barrel, desperate, pathetic loser men in previous societies would take used women—and that’s because they could not get anything else. The spiritual successors to those men are the PUAs.

Meanwhile the spiritual successor to the men that built civilization are ironically the MGTOWs of today. The men that pioneered and built something because what they wanted didn’t exist, passing up the established norms and societies. The Founding Fathers of America went their own way from the UK because they didn’t like it. Then Pioneers expanded Westward because of the same thing.

Now all the frontiers are gone, and MGTOW means leaving women behind.

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>For the better of 50%(conservative estimate) of women out there, its a pay to play dating pool. So even the fry guy could save up a little bit and “get laid”. </span>

Recently had an ex fling leave me for a guy that would pay her rent! Of course she offered me the position first.(In the way women do) But I politely declined an wished her the best(got the wtf face)….but I got the most out of her free to new cutomers promo offer while it lasted.

The men that pioneered and built something because what they wanted didn’t exist, passing up the established norms and societies.

That’s amazing how you wrote that in context of today’s MGTOW. I love how no one here needs to dumb down or dilute anything. Everyone gets to speak their mind and more often than not I find myself simply being amazed at the level of intellectual insights and thought processing here. Something you will never find at a PUA forum or pro-feminists’ rebellion against their own inventions.

About not getting laid: It used to bother me in my virgin days. I used to think I must be missing something. How it never occurs to these people that not getting laid is actually an option, not lack there of. A good man chases quality pussy, which gets disqualified after not so honorary mentions of casual c~~~s in her past. He goes “NAWALT”. One after another …. and getting laid becomes a point of conscious contention of allocating time and resources vs finding that quality pussy. Now how important your time and resources are to you can actually become overbearing factor in deciding that f~~~ it, no pussy is quality. A MGTOW is born. He allocates 0% (may be 2-5%) of valuable time and resources to look out for mediocre, will-do-for-now pussy. Once that’s done. AWALT. Think pussy, want pussy, dream pussy, be a pussy. Not a MGTOW.

Hate the term that some men believe their worth, is described by them being in a relationship, that’s something only a person with no personal ambition or dreams would say, isn’t it?

Always reminds me of Alan Watts’ “Society is a Hoax”.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDqxgU7CbIw[/youtube]

I would also like to ask this here: What does it matter if the pussy is “great” or “poor” if the end result is a guy getting ripped a new one and having every other part of his life messed up?  Sure, you end up nailing a 10 in bed, who has great technique, but she is a gold digger, bitchy, and treats you like a Ken doll and makes all these demands on your time?  So, you have a great trophy you lug around with you all the time, who ends up making your life hell in private and causes you to be miserable, but she is a great lay?  What gain is that?

I would say on the other side, that a guy supposedly has a rare woman he is compatible with, who gets out of his way and so on, but she isn’t that great looking and he is really happy (hypothetical case), why should I care that the woman he is getting isn’t all that?  It is his life after all.

I don’t see the point of the quality of the pussy and getting it or not, if such doesn’t really fit a man.  I see PUA rating pussy all the time to measure how manly a man is.  I am reminded of a scene from the movie Moneyball, where they rated how good a player was by how attractive his girlfriend is.  Apparently, he has less than an attractive woman, he has a lack of confidence or some other bulls~~~.

On a personal level, I dumped a stripper I was with for a bit, trying to date out of morbid curiosity.  Once she hit that threshold of character BS, I ended up doing an ultimatum phone call, and she didn’t return the call, so I went my own way, only to get greeted by a 3 am phone call on how upset she was.  BLECH.

I don’t see the point of the quality of the pussy and getting it or not, if such doesn’t really fit a man.

I agree.

I define “quality” in very much the same sense:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

guy supposedly has a rare woman he is compatible with, who gets out of his way and so on, but she isn’t that great looking and he is really happy

Perhaps I was a bit unclear. To me quality is of character, not just looks. That’s why I said that:

Anonymous wrote:

quality pussy, which gets disqualified after not so honorary mentions of casual c~~~s in her past

– lack of morals/good character.