MGTOWWomen's Dating Contradictions – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 19:25:05 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/page/309/#post-63552 <![CDATA[Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/page/309/#post-63552 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:51:23 +0000 Jason So, I’ve spent a fair amount of time on various online dating sites and done some “rl” dating, and I’ve run across a number of “dating contradictions”, or what women say they they want, versus what they actually go for. I know, I know, many of you have already discussed this subject to death, but I figured I’d rather open up a new thread than thread-necro, you know?

Anyway… One of my “favorite” dating contradictions comes with the cliché line “I just want to feel protected”. You know the one; the woman says she wants a man that she can feel safe with, someone who she feels can (and will) protect her in times of danger. Right, so far so good, right? Well, allow me to offer up a *recurring* experience I’ve had with this over the years…

A woman says, either outright in her dating profile or once you start talking to her for a bit (online or offline), that she wants to have a man she feels can and will protect her. Right. She then talks/flirts with a number of men at the same time (usually not revealing such until at the very last moment). Right. So, let us see some typical examples of these men:

First off, you’ve got a number of stereotypical simps and maybe one or two outright “white knights/SJWs”; nothing out of the ordinary, and not really contenders for her attention. Then, you’ve got two other men:

Man #1: Tall, buff, with mechanically inefficient muscles gained from months or years of using gym machines but no free weights, with zero combat training or experience who wouldn’t last five seconds in a fight against someone who has even the barest minimum of unarmed combat training, and has a known criminal record including stuff like theft and domestic violence.

Man #2: Somewhat short, with lean musculature gained from over two decades of armed and unarmed combat training and experience who can quite literally kill with one finger if he so chooses, no criminal record, and has a reputation for high levels of self-discipline and even higher morals, and has helped out local police on occasion by breaking up fights and keeping things under control, which several of the local officers can vouch for if asked. And yes, Man #2 makes the woman aware of most or all of these facts over the course of their interactions.

The woman *always* goes for Man #1. I’ve had this happen to me a number of times, and it annoys me every time. Obviously, I’ve always felt irritated over this and thought to myself that (those particular?) women must suffer from some form of mental disorder. However, this and other dating contradictions just keep cropping up more often than not. Do women seriously not know what they want? Do they really have such low levels of self-awareness? Or does it result from cognitive dissonance, itself stemming from what society (read: feminism and/or female friends) says they *should* want versus their own biological urges? Or something else?

For many years, I tried telling myself that I just had recurring bad luck, that I somehow ended up meeting and talking to women who represented the outliers of human statistics. Gradually, I came to realise more and more that no, they didn’t represent the outliers; whatever the reason, these women represented the dead-center average. I’ve had periods of months or over a year when I’ve stayed the hell away from dating and anything and everything to do with it, but I’ve always drifted back into it, thinking to myself that “maybe this time things will turn out different”, and “men should date, shouldn’t they?”. Not so. Then, just recently, I ran across a link to this site when perusing a blog about gender differences. I’ve had hunches and suspicions for many, many years – and outright advice from my father, an unknowing MGHOW – but I finally feel like I’ve started to understand, largely thanks to this and other sites I’ve found since I started actively searching out MGTOW sources. Thank you.

Please, feel free to share your own experiences of women’s dating contradictions.

Oh, and I just registered on the site. You can call me Jason. Nice to meet you all!

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63561 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63561 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:25:53 +0000 Crazy Canuck Women wanted equality yet wanted to feel protected? Guess what woman you can risk your own life, I’m not going to risk my life for you when you will very unlikely to give a s~~~ about me.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63563 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63563 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:34:19 +0000 cicer0

A woman says, either outright in her dating profile or once you start talking to her for a bit (online or offline), that she wants to have a man she feels can and will protect her. Right. She then talks/flirts with a number of men at the same time (usually not revealing such until at the very last moment). Right. So, let us see some typical examples of these men:

Well, theres your first problem. The profile itself. It is basically fan-fiction. She wrote it to attract “fans”. It doesn’t bare any similarity to what she actually wants; even she doesn’t know that.

Obviously, I’ve always felt irritated over this and thought to myself that (those particular?) women must suffer from some form of mental disorder.

They do; it’s called being female.

I learned a lot from Orwell and Nineteen Eighty Four. Yes, he was writing about a dystopian future however, his work can also translate to gender relations. Essentially; he likes to present two extremes for any given situation.

<b>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.</b>

In context, it is the control mechanism for the party. In MGTOW however; it could rightly be applied to feminism.

Another gem, that I believe sums up the dichotmy that you speak of would be:

<b>Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.</b>

Again, this is another specialty that women seem to embrace better than anyone else. When a guy makes a profile, he is trying to show what he has to offer. When a woman makes one, she is demanding what she expects…. or not, depending on whatever the hell she feels like at the time of writing it.

Lastly though, I would encourage you to always remember this;

<b>If you are a man, Winston, you are the last man.</b>

Be always the last man.

Welcome to the forum mate. Enjoy your time here. You are amoung friends.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63568 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63568 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:50:18 +0000 What a woman wants as I have heard it said and written by many women.

I want a man who is strong and tough but is gentle and vegetarian, a man who can survive in the wild but doesn’t kill anything including vegetation. A man who is reliable and steady yet fun and can make me laugh. I want a romantic man who will take me places and also help with the housework and knows how to cook. An intelligent and well educated man, highly motivated and ambitious but still down to Earth.

A man who desires me and wants to f~~~ me all the time but only when I want to but still pursues me despite my rejections. I want a man who will love and cherish me and marry me even though I think there still might be something better out there.

And he has to be taller than me and good looking too but not like really vain good looking just handsome and well dressed but doesn’t spend all his time in front of the mirror.

A man who is confident and sure about himself but not overpowering or dominating, a man who will let me have my way but pull me into line when I need it, a man who is creative and handy but also good with computers and knows how to style hair.

Get the picture?

 

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63626 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63626 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:46:26 +0000 kizell Jason I agree with you on all counts but what on earth are you doing on dating sites.  If you want to meet up with women, why would you cut yourself so short as to try and score with the very worst type of whore.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63630 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63630 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:50:39 +0000 Jason @CrazyCanuck: I feel that way in theory, but in practice I still suffer from the overpowering urge to protect women (well, people in general, really, but women in particular) so in a life-or-death situation I’d probably jump in anyway without thinking… I’ll have to try and rid myself off that knee-jerk reaction eventually, I guess.

@cicer0: Yeah, the more I read around here, the more I realise I really should reread 1984. Think I’ll pop over to a library and borrow it ASAP. And thanks for the welcome 🙂

@Morlock: Clearly, the term “mutual exclusivity” doesn’t exist in the minds of women, huh? That and they want the man to have freakin’ telepathic abilities, to boot…

@kizell: Oh, I don’t currently actively pursue women, online or offline. I have, however, done so quite a bit in the past, as evidenced by my opening post.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63633 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63633 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:53:34 +0000 ILiveAgain

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63636 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63636 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 19:00:02 +0000 Crazy Canuck I will protect family members that’s it. I live in Toronto and nobody gives a s~~~ about me. I was at a subway station asking people call the police because she black dude wanted to fight me. I could have beaten his ass however I would get charged because I could walk away. Noway I’m helping anyone f~~~ that s~~~.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63637 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63637 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 19:00:35 +0000 treelville..miami Real talk, everything about a woman is contradiction, everything, down to her personality, appearance, likes, dislikes..etc.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63644 <![CDATA[Reply To: Women's Dating Contradictions]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/womens-dating-contradictions/#post-63644 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 19:05:36 +0000 kizell My apologies Jason.  I made a poor assumption.

On a side note, and to a point I alluded to a few days ago, online dating sites are places where 5%-10% of the guys get 90% of the ass.  STD’s waiting to happen

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