Here:

http://therationalmale.com/2015/02/06/two-camps/

A society of both cad ascendence and civilization is unsustainable and incompatible. One or the other will go, and the pendulum with either swing back to dads or civilization will regress to accommodate the rise of women choosing cads.

In this latest blog he makes reference to this article:

http://elitedaily.com/dating/date-a-guy-who-bores-me-to-tears/918320/

Apparently it is all the good guys fault for being nice and boring, and the feminine priority is to have excitement in their sexual peak.  They hold the power with contraception, and prefer to experiment with the bad boys, till they hit the wall and settle for the provisioning beta.  Well it’s nothing that hasn’t been said before.  Just a nice insight into the female psyche, and the future of civilization.

Any thoughts?

Yes I know the Cads vs Dads piece very well. “Nice and boring” is an interesting complaint. Men are not your personal Santa Clause, bitches. You want a fix for drama? Go date a drug addict. The reason women are miserable with “nice and boring” is because MEN SEE TRUE VALUE IN BEING CONTENT. Maintaining an even strain. When things are fine for a man , he’s “happy”. Men are GRATEFUL when things are “nice and boring”. It means he is CONTENT.

When a man is CONTENT – happiness is sure to follow.
A woman has no f~~~ing idea what I just said.

Women see no value in that. You could be out with a woman enjoying an outdoor lunch or a little road trip quietly enjoying a little music in your car watching the scenery go by and a woman will RUIN that. You’re having a GREAT DAY just enjoying the peace and tranquility of it while getting away from humanity’s mad inhumane noise — and a woman will f~~~ing s~~~ all over it. She sees no value in being CONTENT.

“What’s wrong?”

“Nothing”.

…. and 3 hours later she will explode like a time bomb because you didn’t read her mind.

“If you loved me you would know what’s wrong”.

Go f~~~ yourself.

She will ask herself “why am i not HAPPY right now?”. They are the sex that chases “happy”. And chasing happy is the first best way to be miserable whenever you’re not “happy”. She is addicted to drama and needs to be high on it ALL THE F~~~ING TIME. She will even create drama when there is no need for it – just to get her “fix”. Like a drug addict. Unless they are “high” everything – just real life – is a goddam downer and that’s how “nice and boring” is a problem.

I no longer give a s~~~ when a woman complains about “nice and boring”. Get out and walk because I can be an asshole too. You just don’t want to take me there because I am not your needle whenever you need a hit and I will make sure you don’t like it. I am not interested in being a CAD just because it makes her vagina moist.

Women are so miserable they are “happy” when the are complaining.

When a man is CONTENT – happiness is sure to follow.

A woman has no f~~~ing idea what I just said.

you nailed it with

“If you loved me you would know what’s wrong”.
Go f~~~ yourself.

What are your thoughts on

A society of both cad ascendence and civilization is unsustainable and incompatible.

Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?
Is it just me or does something have to give?  We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?

Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?
Is it just me or does something have to give?  We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?

AFT, what exactly are we suppose to do to save civilization? Both our hands are tied behind our back, the majority of our best and brightest are leading the charge headlong into oblivion. We are literally seen as THE problem….. Exactly how do we fix that? Here’s a free clue, WE DON’T. All we can do is prepare for after and see how it turns out.

Are you looking forward to the demise of civilization, or happy to please yourself and not give a s~~~ about whatever happens?

No. But I like Smitty’s answer. I also had a thought recently, when I heard a massive asteroid was going to pass Earth and be visible from the ground. I imagined what my reaction would be if it were announced rock the size of 20 football fields would hit and wipe everything out. I wouldn’t be cheering, but I would also be dishonest if I didn’t admit I found myself smiling a little.

In the end, we all get TRUE “equality”. The announcement of such an event would immediately reduce everyone to being “the same”. This already occurs in death which happens for everyone, but many people don’t even think about it. WE ARE – thanks to men, maths and sciences – the only species on the planet that has the possibility to deflect such an event, but if it were inevitable, I would be “OK” with it – even though I had no choice.

Do I wish for a massive crumbling or for the west to explode from the inside? No, but I do so very much enjoy Karma on a small level when people get exactly what’s coming to them. So in that regard I don’t give a s~~~. Im not here to just please myself. We are providing a small “legacy” if that’s the word in the best interests of men, and it has been very rewarding experience. We we do here really MATTERS. It has an impact on the world and has created a very necessary change we can all be extremely proud of. Christ, as a combined effort we have RENAMED February 14th!!! MGTOW , you, me, all of us have joined together to celebrate ours lives, reward ourselves instead, and altered history in some small way …. and that’s just tremendous.

Valentines’ day will go on, but every SINGLE person who visits our homepage will stop and think. Even when they go out for dinner and waste money on useless s~~~ the seed has been planted. They can’t unsee it. “$14 billion was wasted on women last year – in just one day”. What a profound mind-altering thought, wouldn’t you say? Whoever reads that and decides to throw $400 away on dinner, flowers and an evening will remember that line. If I were a woman who read that, the meal would get stuck in my throat.

AFT wrote:

Is it just me or does something have to give?

Something WILL give. And it won’t be MGTOW. Thats’ a guarantee.

AFT wrote:

We can’t keep going on this way, and what do you see as the best way forward, keep our heads down focus on our own provisioning, and let it all fall apart?

Yes we can. Men have been “going their own way” for centuries. They are the men who have dedicated their lives to something BIGGER and MORE IMPORTANT than themselves. MGTOW are not just selfish assholes who refuse to get married or impregnate and support females. They are DaVincis. Teslas. Schopenhauers, Einsteins and – as Steve Jobs would say – the ones who “think different”. He would applaud us for AT LEAST that. Just for thinking different.

“Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes. The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.”
– STEVE JOBS

Not only can we keep going this way. We MUST keep going this way.

The question I was trying to ask was do you see the social conditions at present, leading to the demise of civilization?  I suppose it didn’t come out quite like I intended, but yeah I’m happy to see this system destruct and I couldn’t give a s~~~, and what else is there to do but look after and please myself?

I agree with Smitty 100%, and see your view, MGTOW is the male primary social order, and let civilization come around to agree with us, either way we’re better off following our own path and let civilization take care of itself.

I never intended to insinuate saving civilization, I suppose I was looking at insight into how best to prepare and wondering about your game plan.  I meant this social construct can’t keep going this way, and civilization is f~~~ed.  I see MGTOW is the only real sane response, not just to the current social order, but for men in any situation full stop.

The question I was trying to ask was do you see the social conditions at present, leading to the demise of civilization?

Most definitely. No feminized culture or matriarchy ever survived in all of history. We are experiencing a social collapse equal to the fall of Rome which came about in a similar way and history does repeat itself.

I suppose I was looking at insight into how best to prepare and wondering about your game plan.

I actually have an “escape” plan if things become unbearable and / or the state becomes an evil police state. I have a remote family cabin where I can “disappear” to for extended periods if necessary. I can remove myself from society at the drop of a hat and go completely ghost. Just get in my car and drive. Hell I may even take the scenic route. There I would fish and swim and ski and live out my remaining years in peace.

I wouldn’t pretend to know how men best prepare themselves because every MGTOW has his own game plan and “end game”. Some may ghost. Some may blend in conspicuously. Some may f~~~ off to Thailand and make babies with 5 different women or just bang like a machine and live on a beach in SeWaTeneo. Who can say really. That would be up to him. I have two other possible destinations. Portofino Italy, and SeWaTeneo. Paradise. It may even be more likely that I would do something like that. The family cabin would be if I were in a hurry and things got BAD – or if something like Yellowstone erupted.

But I want to be on a beach in the sun with knee-deep blue water as far as the eye can see.

The way I see it weather civilization fails or not I’m always going to be better off being a MGHOW.

Thats’ an excellent attitude and the right way to go.
If GYOW is not an ENJOYABLE preferred choice (even when painful) something is wrong.

Im not having any other way. In fact this translates into my professional life too… where I was recently expected (by one client) to come in EXACTLY ON TIME for work with no lateness so we could have “group huddles” to begin the day. DING DING!!! Someone’s trying to control and treat me like a child!

I have no problem with that request so I showed up the following morning at 9:59 AM.
However, being a MGTOW means f~~~ you for attempting to control.
Now I will get up and LEAVE at 6:31 PM – no exceptions.

I knew they would not like it one bit. So the attempt at control WILL backfire.
They get me 40 hours per week with NO EXCEPTIONS. Not 45. Not 50. Not 65.

Because they want me there on time. I will LEAVE on time. At 6:31 PM, I no longer care. When it eventually comes up in conversation (and it will) they will be told this and I will append it with “If you want me to care after 6:31 PM all you have to do is pay me more”.

And I will take my s~~~s at work from now on too. This way, while I am pinching a loaf, I can tell myself “Im getting paid to take a s~~~”. Now that’s MGTOW awesome.

Funny thing is… I came into work the next morning at 9:59 AM all eager to have our 10:00 AM meeting! Only one other guy was there. And I laughed out loud. I have not been late ONCE. Every single one of them have. They have lost ALL credibility and I have made them feel like pieces of s~~~ by asking “why have I been the only one – including the other managers – who has been here at 9:59 AM??”. Even if I arrived early I would take a walk around the block or sit in my car to time it perfectly. 9:59 to 6:31. OMG it feels so good to not care anymore after 6:31.

A “job” is only what you do so you can make enough money to do what you WANT to do when you’re not working.

You would be surprised how many people don’t see it that way. They live to WORK and don’t work to LIVE.

MGTOW, baby.

(kind of off topic but it’s just one example of how it’s been feeling really great lately)