http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

But, that number I believe would include men in common law marriages.

The point I have of the video is that MGTOW will get lumped in with men as a category, or singles as a category, and not seen a unique category/demographic.

So I am trying to look up something on this.  Any help for info would be beneficial.  I am going to try to show that MGTOW just are not seen in society.  And with this not being seen are lost business opportunities and more.

Good image from that 2006 link:

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I imagine more women than men aren’t seeking a partner because women are “prizes to be sought” and men are supposed to do the seeking – this would explain why women are the primary whiners about MGTOWs not holding up their end of that deal, as we are supposed to chase their golden pussies all over the planet at any cost to elevate their false/undeserved sense of worth.

That article is a good start.  There is plenty of other info out there supporting it, and I guarantee you marketers are taking note of the growing demographic and what it may mean for businesses and opportunities.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

Not a single mention of how destructive family law is to men.

The article focuses on how marriage is crucial for “families” and “children”. This is a common tactic for those that are pro marriage. What they always fail to recognize is that not everyone wants children, and this number is growing – birth rates are significantly down across the western world. Take children out of the equation, and pro marriage folks have little ground to stand on.

Also, not surprisingly, the article shames men for not wanting marriage, which states:

Far too many young men have failed to make a normal progression into adult roles of responsibility and self-sufficiency, roles generally associated with marriage and fatherhood.

So they are basically saying that MGTOW are irresponsible and dependent boys that need to grow up.

They can shame all they want, I won’t be getting married.

Do not forget about married Mgtow. Married guys who are planning a divorce. Often waiting to ship the kids off to college. Typical separate beds called a SLEEPING DIVORCE.

I think a general belief, and it likely has a lot of validity, is that being married means you are restricted from really going your own way.  It is true a man can be married and live like a single man.  I also believed what can be found around MGTOW is useful for married me.   For what I am doing though, I believe it would be really hard to get numbers of men going MGTOW while in marriage.  Once they are divorced it is easier to see.

And my focus with the video is on the general view of society not seeing men who are not married as their own group.  They are out there, in increasing numbers, but not seen.  That is what I want to focus on.  Transexuals have a ton more awareness in society now as a group, than single men do, as far as I am concerned.

I know because the second even half of all men stood up and stated “we are being discriminated against and are sick of family law and affirmative action and all the other bulls~~~” you’d see politicians and women scurrying around in a total panic, desperate to concede and get men back to society. Society does not function without men doing all the work. Politicians, bankers, women and the rich all live entirely off of the labor and efforts of the common man.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of men are still in relationships or desperately seeking. Us true MGTOW are a tiny, infinitesimal number. I know because the second even half of all men stood up and stated “we are being discriminated against and are sick of family law and affirmative action and all the other bulls~~~” you’d see politicians and women scurrying around in a total panic, desperate to concede and get men back to society. Society does not function without men doing all the work. Politicians, bankers, women and the rich all live entirely off of the labor and efforts of the common man.

That chart posted above, ends up saying over 40% of single men aren’t looking for a long-term relationship or marriage, so I am thinking it is higher than maybe people think.  Men will look for short-term hookups they are up for dropping if it doesn’t work out, as per the survey.

I am also of the belief a man does MGTOW for himself only, not to try to change the world.

But, that number I believe would include men in common law marriages.

So called common law “marriage” is a legal fiction invented to extract wealth from men anyways. It’s not a real thing. No man has EVER intentionally entered into a common law “marriage”. They just failed to bail out before the legal fiction was used to bite them in the ass.

As to how many MGTOW there are, I think the answer is more than anyone, including most of them themselves, suspect. Regardless of acronyms and titles there are simply a hell of a lot of men out there who sensibly intend to never get married. And won’t. An no amount of stupid pathetic shaming language from some media outlet who clearly has failed to understand anything is going to change that. Seriously, how the hell do they think mere disparagement of men’s maturity even compares to the other option on offer: losing half their stuff and the majority of their incomes for the next 18+ years to life?

MOWsince95 wrote:

I imagine more women than men aren’t seeking a partner because women are “prizes to be sought” and men are supposed to do the seeking

I suspect a large percentage of them are still busy riding the carousel. Give them a few years until they hit 30. After that they’re probably still not “seeking”, but they are very VERY bitter.

Regardless of acronyms and titles there are simply a hell of a lot of men out there who sensibly intend to never get married. And won’t. An no amount of stupid pathetic shaming language from some media outlet who clearly has failed to understand anything is going to change that.

Starting this year, NOBODY gets to shame men anymore for refusing to sign a marriage contract. Because for the first time in a century, 70% of men under 35 have not signed a marriage contract. It’s no longer a stigma by a long shot. It’s the MAJORITY. That aspect of MGTOW is already mainstream and totally acceptable whether anyone likes it or not. Be sure to rub their noses in it.

With regards to “the unknown demographic” just the introductions reveal that every 2nd or 3rd guy who arrives here and makes an intro is SHOCKED and expresses surprise that he is far from alone in his way of thinking. This reveals – beyond any conceivable doubt – that the actual number of men who are living MGTOW lifestyles must be 9X that of what we know – or infinitely greater.

Consider ACTUAL EXISTING MGTOW that we know of. Out of all of the feature 16 MGTOW channels we feature here (for example) only the Mayor of MGTOWN, Barbarossa & Messenger Rising signed up to our website – as far as we know. Niko Choski also may have – I think. That’s just 20% from a TINY population that we are AWARE of.

So that REALLY puts it in perspective.

MGTOW is “common sense for men” and there is NO denying it anymore.

70% of men under 35 have not signed a marriage contract.

When I was born, it was quite common for men and women to be married at 18 or 19. That is a tectonic scale shift.

Not getting married is survival for men these days. I know women have always had special quirky qualities, but the ones we face today are f~~~ing narcissistic monsters.