So I fixed it and send it back to her.

She didn’t like it at all 😀

Some of the Disney flicks in the last 20 or so years have been notorious for that.  Mulan is a good example–absolutely dreadful.

I am hard pressed to think of any Disney movie that did not work in a “girls are better than boys” message somewhere. I grew up on Disney. Mom didn’t want my young mind polluted by scenes of sex and violence. Instead it was polluted by blue pill bulls~~~.

Or that Dad is abusive, controlling and doesn’t know what he’s doing.

@quarter wave vertical: i actually enjoyed mulan. even though the concept of a woman becoming china’s greatest hero is ridiculous, i like mulan’s character. i don’t think women should enlist in the military for physical roles. they’re just not built for combat, however, mulan put herself in a man’s shoes to protect her father. not to prove that she can be just as good as a man. i admire that. they wouldn’t have kept her if she couldn’t meet pt like the others, so she was willing to accept the standards expected of men unlike the special snow flakes demanding that the standards be lowered for them. she eventually earns the respect of the soldiers and risks her life to save them as well. even when mulan is ostracized for hiding her identity, she still tries to save her comrades and the people of china from the hun’s final attack. it’s said that if a woman is going to act like a man, she better be prepared to be treated like one and that’s what mulan did. she was accountable for her actions and persevered to preserve not only herself, but everyone she cared about. basically, she’s everything i wish i could find in a woman.

Mulan was awesome until the 2nd movie, then all feminist hell let loose.

By comparison, a few weeks ago, TCM showed Third Man on the Mountain, which Disney made over 50 years ago.  Now that was worth watching.

I get that feminists want to see movies depicting women doing all these great things because they want to send a new message to little girls that they really can do all these great things that men have done. I get the theory that if we just keep telling little girls how many great things they’re capable of, that this will one day result in them growing up and actually doing those things. So I notice that more and more movies have that message in them somewhere.

But these are no longer stories about something that already happened anymore. Now, they’re a story about something we HOPE is going to really happen someday as a result of our telling ourselves over and over that it will happen someday. I think it’s possible to take a capable person and make them incapable by convincing them that they cannot do it so that they will not even attempt it. Once they’ve given up the attempt, they are in effect incapable of it. But the reverse of this is not true. This does not work in reverse.

If I convince someone that they are capable of something that they are not actually capable of accomplishing, I’m not doing them any favor. I’m just setting them up for failure.

Has any feminist ever considered that perhaps the reason that our chivalrous medieval male ancestors told girls and women that they could not do some of the things that men do was to protect them from failing at doing those things, (in a time when failure at those things could often result in death) rather than to oppress them?

At the time, women who acted like women were worth protecting. Whereas women who attempted to act like men were as impossible to protect, and not likely to survive long anyway. Because medieval farming, construction, mining, combat were even more dangerous than they are today.

On another thread on this site, I followed a link to the article about the first female carrier fighter pilot who was celebrated as a champion of women’s equality to men when she began flying fighter planes from American aircraft carriers… but then died not long after when she made a mistake and died trying to land one.

Do feminists have a back up plan for managing the embarrassment when their social experiments result in these spectacular failures? We can have movies about great women leaders, but do we really want to send Hillary Clinton to go face off with Vladimir Putin over Russian aggression in Europe? What if Putin doesn’t follow the script?

I only saw the first Mulan movie. Aside from it being a rather cheesy musical, I disliked the “girl power” feminist message. It wasn’t one of Disney’s best efforts. Then again, I didn’t like Lion King, either. By comparison, a few weeks ago, TCM showed Third Man on the Mountain, which Disney made over 50 years ago. Now that was worth watching.

Didn’t like the Lion King either, all that stuff about death and survival of the fittest was disturbing. The 2nd or 3rd one was feminized big time too.