But, due to my anger to them, now that i understand their behavior  to me in the past years I can’t tolerate why they act like they do.  And i can’t just ignore them because i’m still a heterosexual guy with strong sex drive, so i avoid all the contact with them that they are not absolutely necessary, i don’t look at them by the street, i don’t make concessions ever to anyone, i never enter in a normal conversation if just one of them are in between, i see people making fool making them laugh and i feel sick, i listen o read beautiful things about their existence and i need to puke…

I look at them with no laugh in my face, i avoid them when they want to meet me, even when some of them wants to f~~~ with me because i know that they want me only because i treat them bad and they likes that way…  I can’t trust in them anymore and don’t like them,  i not interested in their interest, their dreams, their opinions, their scale of values, their complains…. their pain…

So… i searched the definition of “hate” in the dicionary  and now i wonder…

Due all the thing that they made to me… I ended hating women?…

i really don’t know what to say to this question…

Second, passion is defined as a strong or barely controllable emotional reaction.

I hate c~~~roaches.  I actually have an emotional reaction to their presence.  Revulsion.

I don’t like beets.  I don’t have an emotional reaction to their presence or flavor but I don’t like the way they taste.

You seem to be describing that you don’t trust them and that you are controlling your behavior in the presence of women.  If this is true, then it could be said that you are allowing females to dictate your behavior.

This sounds more akin to paranoia.

You don’t hate women if you did you would be chopping them up in your bedroom. Give it time and in time you may decide you want women in your life. But at that time you realize that they are who they are and you have to deal with that fact. You compensate accordingly or you can completely cut off the majority of connections.(unless you live in the mountains you will see women) I know it may not seem like it now but this is a journey of redefining yourself. You will look back and say wow look how far I have come whether you decide to include women in your life or not.

You seem to be describing that you don’t trust them and that you are controlling your behavior in the presence of women.  If this is true, then it could be said that you are allowing females to dictate your behavior. This sounds more akin to paranoia.

Truly interesting… i couldn’t disagree because my normal behavior is kind to everyone, i treat everyone polite and i have a good sense of humor… but this is precisely what made me treat well to women and ended like that so, when i was in their presence i trigger myself “defense mode” to not be “nice guy” anymore… so it really dictate my behavior…

paranoia sounds like a strong word but i made the question to read opinions so a apreciate yours

Durden wrote:

Anger is a perfectly normal while swallowing the red pill. We have all been through it. Its natural because when you finally remove your blue tinted spectacles you see the world for what it is truly is.

Interesting too. i too think that if a really hate woman i would treat them bad, f~~~ing them making promises of a relationship and then leaving them with bad words or playing with their feelings… And i just think that all this comes for two things: anger and pride

Anger: because i made a clown so much years and i “hate” that feeling…

and pride: because i achieve all that i want in life with a satisfying results… and i still feel like i am a glitch when i remember that i never have a normal relationship, even a simple normal sexual interaction in my entire life…

That hurts and that dictate my behavior in life too…

There is a difference between hating what women do and hating women. I don’t hate the person I hate their actions. I don’t usually talk to women unless it’s necessary.

Maybe you are right but if we agree that the NAWALT doesn’t exist then the mayority of women act alike and then we will hate the behavior of -almost- all of them…

Doesn’t that make that we hate their personalities…?

Behavior doesn’t defines the subject?

Interesting too. i too think that if a really hate woman i would treat them bad, f~~~ing them making promises of a relationship and then leaving them with bad words or playing with their feelings… And i just think that all this comes for two things: anger and pride Anger: because i made a clown so much years and i “hate” that feeling… and pride: because i achieve all that i want in life with a satisfying results… and i still feel like i am a glitch when i remember that i never have a normal relationship, even a simple normal sexual interaction in my entire life… That hurts and that dictate my behavior in life too…

We have all been made clowns and there are still clowns out there juggling. Thank your stars you are not anymore.

There is no such thing as a normal relationship. Its just another lie that has been fed to you. Relationships are confusing and at times very difficult. Add the narcissistic culture influences and they have become unbearable. In movies and tv shows you see the happy moments but never the arguments. Just like you see the successes but never the long grueling hours to develop something complex and worthwhile.

IMO if you have truly never had a sexual interaction/dates with a woman and want to experience it you must first see them for what they are and truly accept that. Know that you are playing with fire and plan accordingly. Many MGTOWs still interact with females but we understand their nature.

IMO if you have truly never had a sexual interaction/dates with a woman and want to experience it you must first see them for what they are and truly accept that. Know that you are playing with fire and plan accordingly. Many MGTOWs still interact with females but we understand their nature.

Of course and to me this is a advantage like if you liked your job, because you will have the deal with it in your normal life except-like you said before- you will live in the montains…

I just can deal with them anymore because i feel betrayed like a little boy who suddenly discover that all around him is a lie…

But the people who knows their s~~~ and still can play with them for me, have everything…They can taste the good things, having care with the traps…

You can enjoy the life without barriers…and me only escape from them because i’m angry and scared of end believing in a NAWALT and get close to the blue pill man that i was before…

Appreciated, man

paranoia sounds like a strong word but i made the question to read opinions so a apreciate yours

I wasn’t trying to come across too strong.  The idea of paranoia is a person attributing or misattributing the words and actions of people as a threat.

Wariness perhaps would be a better word.  Being wary isn’t an unhealthy state of mind.  It has kept others alive and free.

What I do see as healthy is your introspection.  Knowing yourself is key in attaining self empowerment.

I wasn’t trying to come across too strong.  The idea of paranoia is a person attributing or misattributing the words and actions of people as a threat. Wariness perhaps would be a better word.  Being wary isn’t an unhealthy state of mind.  It has kept others alive and free. What I do see as healthy is your introspection.  Knowing yourself is key in attaining self empowerment.

But you are right: i need to be less wary for my own good… maybe in the future will calm my angry with the company of hookers o similar and  will add the part of sexual interaction that lack in my personal balance…

right now i’m angry because in order to get attention from females i must to be rude…and i’m not rude… i don’t want to play a role making a effort only to get laid with an totally stranger human being…

i just need to put my s~~~ together…

i hope i will get it eventually…