An old “friend” of mine I graduated college with last year recently texted me saying he was getting married in a few months and wants me to travel out to Colorado ( I live in New York). He wants me to be a groomsmen.

Throughout our college years I wasn’t aware of MGTOW per se, but had MGTOW tendencies and never got attached to any one particular girl. Being in a fraternity and seeing how girls acted at our parties really opened my eyes as to how dangerous and repulsive they can be.

Anyways, this “friend” of mine got p~~~ed that I didn’t respond to the text after two days. The girl he’s marrying was in our graduating class and puts up a good front as a “classy” girl. I’ve seen her let loose at our parties though, and if he knew what she had been up to back then, I think he’d be re-thinking this whole marriage thing.

Here’s the point. Upon graduating and before he moved out to Colorado, to my surprise he started to discuss red pill ideas and how he hated that the system was so skewed towards women’s favor, etc. All of a sudden in a year’s time, he’s a blue pill mangina and expects me to show up to a wedding to a woman I despise and is highly offended that I’m not the least interested. After speaking with him on the phone about not wanting to go, I could hear his fiance in the background saying that I should “grow up” and, stop complaining and go out there to support them for something that meant so much to the two of them.

Am I being unreasonable in not wanting to go? A plane ticket from NY to Colorado costs money, this will eat into my vacation time, and I’d have to spend money on a wedding gift. I’m put in the unfortunate position of severing a friendship with this brainwashed guy and I’m sure his fiance is feeding him lies and deceit to paint me out as one of “those” guys.  I feel something akin to a duty to do something to awaken him from the dream he’s living in but at the same time, he is a grown man making his own decisions. Where is the boundary and is it even my business to further explain how he’s getting hoodwinked and is in for a very, very bad time down the line?

He knows about marriage statistics and that a man can lose half of his things in a divorce but that’s about as far as he has delved into the rabbit hole. I’m tempted to link him to this site but it might be Too much for him and it’s entirely possible he’ll label mgtow as “fanatical”.

By the way, we are both 22 and she is 23.

I didn’t go to my best friends wedding. Nuff said. We are friends since 6 years old and for 21 years now.

His wife is a classic lazy bitch and he always knew how I felt about marriage/avoided relationships overall so he didn’t invite me, and now year after (and you can read about it in a thread I made) he sees what I saw, and Is miserable with his wife that doesn’t work, gets fat and uses economical, psychological violence against him and the child (which was used to marry my friend).

I never attended weddings, and didn’t go in depth in to all my other friends relationships and never was a part of it. Especially as some of my friends date a new girl every year or so, I didn’t care to learn the names of the girlfriends aswell.

In the end you have to decide (Yes/No):

1) do you care for him enough, is he a true friend, do you want to support him in life even if you know he makes a mistake and marries her ?

2) his reaction to you not attending the wedding, will he understand you or at least still be your friend ?

3) do you care if you don’t contact each other anymore and end your “friendship”?

4) economical factor and emotional factor of what you personally feel, is it worth it for you to waste money and energy on that bitch and slavery celebration, and play a part of it ?

For the rest good luck with anything you plan to do! Go your own way oh enlightened one 😉

Either say you can’t get the time as you’ve planned a vacation later …. or just plain tell him …… I can’t witness a good friend going to the crusher …… but I’ll always be here if things don’t work out.

Once he’s married she’ll cut him off from you anyway. She can’t have witnesses to her asset seizures.

Cut your loss and tell him to grow up and be a real man. He doesn’t need a female in his life especially when she will soon turn fat and never put out.

Just link him to MGTOW/this thread.

Wolve wrote:

In the end how much you care is all that matters if you know he is a true friend or not this is what should let you decide whether or not to go (if you can). 

I see your point, but how should we support someone even we care about, at 100% of the time, even if they do something dumb or something we can’t morally accept ourselves to do ?

Liking and supporting a friend for me stays separate from liking and supporting some situation. Some things I just cant say Yes to.

I hope I explained my point well enough mate. I could go in some theoretical bizzare situations for examples if you want 😀

You are never going to see this guy again. And even if you do, he is now a pussywhipped bitch and won’t be allowed to have any fun. Cut your loss and tell him to grow up and be a real man. He doesn’t need a female in his life especially when she will soon turn fat and never put out. Just link him to MGTOW/this thread.

I love this, Im too soft for it with people, and telling the truth 100%, but if we go by “not everyone will be your friend in life” this situation, this is perfect.

Rough and honest.

Send a present and save the airfare.

Either say you can’t get the time as you’ve planned a vacation later …. or just plain tell him …… I can’t witness a good friend going to the crusher …… but I’ll always be here if things don’t work out.

Once he’s married she’ll cut him off from you anyway. She can’t have witnesses to her asset seizures.

That’s what I’d do, a present, a nice card, and be done with it. Frankly, the card is sufficient. Most wedding presents end up gathering dust on the bottom shelf of a kitchen cabinet anyway.

“I regret I am unable to attend,” is a complete sentence in the English language and an appropriate response to a formal RSVP. You do not owe them excuses or explanations. A text message is not even close to formal, even these days, but it does hint as to how you will be treated in the future.

Yep, if she is typical, she will cut him off from all his old friends. It won’t matter if you were there or not.

Heck, $200, 400…..so he knows money is not the core issue, your warning him is.

“girl he’s marrying was in our graduating class and puts up a good front as a “classy” girl. I’ve seen her let loose at our parties though, and if he knew what she had been up to back then, I think he’d be re-thinking this whole marriage thing.”(-1)   PRINT this, scroll it and stick it inside a fortune cookie. Pay for “person to person -only” courier delivery of this.- considering she eaves drops,”I could hear his fiance in the background saying that I should “grow up” (-2)and stop complaining (-3)and go out there to support them(her -4) for something that meant so much to the two of them.” …………………..[set the example and do whatever she tells you to. hah]

I’m put in the unfortunate position of severing a friendship with this brainwashed guy and I’m sure his fiance is feeding him lies and deceit to paint me out as one of “those” guys.  I feel something akin to a duty to do something to awaken him from the dream he’s living in.

If the shoe were on the other foot would you want him to tell you what lurks beneath?    “and is it even my business to further explain how he’s getting hoodwinked and is in for a very, very bad time down the line?”

Do the right thing