I have written a couple of threads before about warning people of marriage. I hope that some of you listen.

I’m not saying that if you get married then this will happen to you. Maybe it won’t. But I know one thing for sure, without any doubt, that I have spent the last fifteen years of my life living someone else’s dream. It’s because marriage is only a woman’s dream… it is not a man’s dream. Show me an eight year old boy who dreams of marriage .. I have a ten year old son and he only dreams of being a captain of a spaceship one day.

If wyou get married, the only thing that will happen to you is that you will be stripped clean, of everything… not just the money, but of your dreams and aspirations. The woman who will make that happen probably won’t even mean to do it.. but her dreams are incompatible with yours. Although I am disgusted with the general behaviour of women nowadays, I really dont think that most of them plan it, they are just selfish by nature, and actually the things that make them happy will never make you happy. Show me a man who is happy about spending 20 thousand pounds on a wedding, show me a man who is happy about owning a huge house he hardly ever spends any time in (cos he is so busy working), show me a man who is happy about hardly any sex at home and getting used to masturbating at home. This is married life, and it doesn’t get any better.

I don’t know what lies on theother side, maybe it’s better and maybe it’s not. I don’t know cos I’ve never been there. Some of you have and I really hope that it is a bit better, cos this sucks, it sucks big time.

If you have been on the other side, then I hope that you provide inspiration to the young men of this world, cos all I can provide is a warning… dont come here, its not worth it, dont get married. You will end up a slave. No matter how well you do in life financially or otherwise, you will end up a slave. All your money will be spent on worthless bulls~~~ and before you realise it, it will be too late.

And I’ll tell you why it will be too late. It will be too late cos you will almost certainly have kids – kids that you love beyond believe – kids, who provide you with the only source of happiness in life. That’s how kids are – they are f~~~ing awesome. They aren’t expensive, women make them expensive. A local school and lots of love is enough for any child, but a woman is never satisfied, she wants more. She wants a private school and burberry diaper bags and a 500 pound buggy and on and on it goes. It never ends. And it never will.

I hope that at least some of you will realise this and live your life differently. Good luck.

Your a prisoner. The cell is your cubical, your home is not even your cell, it belongs to her.

And the lock is your love for your children.

That’s why I say use a surrogate if a man wants kids.

Thanks for adding your voice to the call to younger guys not to marry.

Marriage is a wet dream.

When asked the same question about being parents, almost everyone said that they felt like they got back more from having kids than they’d put in. Not financially of course since kids don’t bring any assets. But almost everyone who had kids said that the perceived emotional benefits that they got from their children more than made up for what they perceived to be the emotional net liability of the marriage.

It sounds like you are part of the majority of the respondents in that study. To me, it certainly seems to lend validation to adoptions or surrogacy for men who want to have kids. Get the net emotional benefit of having kids without the net emotional liability of having to suffer through the marriage…

I hope other members would respond to that question of marriage vs kids. I’d be interested in everyone else opinions…

Considering how much time and effort it took me to finish my Ph. D., I can understand why he said that.  If I had been married as a grad student, I don’t think I could have gone as far as I did.

Your point about your phd is critically important to young men today. Being in a relationship with a short sighted self centered ameriskank will ruin your professional future. You are investing in your future and women want stuff now, right the f~~~ now. Even if you have to take loans. One woman actually tried to make me claim bankrupcy so she could max out my cards then leave me holding the bag.

You’ve been lied to about women being a mans helper in a relationship. Women today know this myth from their womens study classes and have been trained to extend no assistance to their mates. Even worse, marriage, during those years 22-26 where most men of quality are separating themselves from the pack by going on to true higher education through professional school, law school, phd, med school or finishing an apprentiships in electrical or whatever floats your boat will be dashed without any hesitation because women are no longer interested in a long term relationship so only want what they can get out of you now. For a few months or years they may fool you into thinking they’re helpmates. Don’t be stupid, don’t buy it.

These years from 22-26 are those years that you should spend on yourself. This will benefit you your whole life long no matter what you do. Be stupid and marry, be stupider and have kids, get accused of s~~~…it is all a lot easier to handle if you have invested in yourself during those critical four years.

I married in second year of med school and I could have achieved so much more with my life if I had followed the advice my nieces boyfriends mom gave him on entering medical school. Instead I spent time on being the emotional tampon to a wreck with chronic depression that I was to young to identify before marriage. And, of course, she lied to me about.

My nieces boyfriend, the med students mom, told him “Break up with your girlfriend, put your nose to the grindstone and make something of yourself. Don’t give a s~~~ about women at your age”.

Now that’s a good mother.

And he listened and is successful. My niece still pines for him. She is attractive, just finished law school, can have her pick of guys but still pines for the one who dumped her.

As far as my situation, it was my mother or fathers job to say that to me back then I and I will never forgive them for not putting their flesh and blood first.

That’s how strong and empowered feminism has left our young women.

And how free young men are to make something of themselves for themselves not for what they can bring to the table to get some rapidly depreciating resentful and never satisfied incubator who’s issue immediately belongs to her.

There are so many major advantages men have today they didn’t have back then that it is crucial to go your own way to take advantages of these. Don’t get bogged down by committing to some skank, your love. Now days you don’t have to wait for marriage to f~~~, they are litterally lining up to give it away for free.

Just double bag it and remember you don’t owe her any personal information. That is your property. You don’t owe her anything.

I soon learned her book was a radical plea for today’s wives to re-channel their energies into making a successful marriage by being supportive of their husbands – husbands who may be unsure of themselves, overworked, or underpaid or just need a woman’s intuitive God-inspired cheerleading when a great opportunity presents itself.

I was so impressed with how this book could potentially change the husband-wife relationship for the better that I contacted Megan again to see if she would be interested in an interview. At the time, Megan was busy doing her publicity tour, but she agreed wholeheartedly to an e-mail interview.

Today it’s a radical idea to help your husband and this is from a conservative marriage minded website: http://www.cbn.com/family/marriage/bagby_basham_standbyyourman.aspx

So what is in it for men to get married except to destroy their careers.

With marriage, the list of requirements is endless – and I’m not even sure where the benefit is. You could be the best ‘husband’ in the world and your wife will still not be satisfied – that’s just how it is.

@ListenUp! you are right, sometimes getting high helps to be able to say ‘f~~~ it’and look at life from your own perspective and funnily things start to look clear… tbh that’s how I actually found mgtow – its the only things that keeps me sane nowadays.

And mgtow will serve as the basis for the remainder of my life.

kids, who provide you with the only source of happiness in life.

To right mate!  If it weren’t for my kids I would probably be hooked up with some crazy bitch.  After my divorce, I focused (and still do) on my kids and my career.

My kids keep me grounded, sober and sane.

I wish you all the best gametrader.  If you are in a marriage now, it can be tough.  Divorce sucks, as it is hard on everybody.  If a marriage is really that bad – sometimes it is necessary.     After my divorce I felt like a great weight was lifted off my shoulders and I could live again – for me.   I felt I was finally acquitted and released from prison.

<span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; background-color: #fbfbfb;”>They aren’t expensive, women make them expensive. A local school and lots of love is enough for any child, but a woman is never satisfied, she wants more. She wants a private school and burberry diaper bags and a 500 pound buggy and on and on it goes. It never ends. And it never will.</span>

I liked this.
So true.

No I am not married nor have kids, but this I know to be true just from reading, watching, listening to people. They (women) spend so much money frivolously. They do not have the same appreciation for money like men do at all and spend it without thinking.

Restaurants are my biggest bug bear. Women LOVE them. They love being seen in them, wearing ” a nice dress” in them, paying over the odds for something you can do at home. Once in a while as a treat, perhaps, but on a regular basis? That add’s up! Had a g/f who liked to go to one everytime I saw her. Had it kept on, I mentally calculated we(I) would have paying around 1000+ pounds a year for it.

I go food shopping twice a week. I spend between 10-20 pounds a time depending on what I am getting, normally the lower end of this.
This food last me 3 days.
It would only pay for one meal in a restaurant….

Women don’t care.