MGTOWSJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 02:34:44 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/page/323/#post-59177 <![CDATA[SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/page/323/#post-59177 Fri, 29 May 2015 11:57:37 +0000 KingOfTheSea This seemed like the “nerd section” of the MGTOW site, so I’m going to post this here. For those of you who don’t know, Doctor Strange is a Marvel Comics character who has a movie coming up here pretty soon in 2016. In short, his story is about an arrogant, womanizing, gifted surgeon who breaks his hands in an accident and loses his wealth trying to fix them. In a last-ditch attempt to be healed, he travels to the Orient and finds a monastery where he learns magic and becomes a defender against supernatural threats.

 

Now, here’s my beef: For the role of the Ancient One, Strange’s virtually immortal teacher and the Sorcerer Supreme on Earth (top wizard, basically), Marvel is considering…Tilda Swinton. The hypocrisy here is that when Fox cast Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch, a white character, SJWs were crawling over each other to be the first to say how not racist they were and how great a casting decision they thought it was because, you know, f~~~ the white men who made characters who looked like them. They complained that black actors do not get enough opportunity and representation in films for anything other than thugs and so it’s only fair that some of the white heroes be made black or other races.

The mental gymnastics, though, astound me as they try to defend Tilda Swinton, a white, English woman, for the role of the Ancient One, an elderly Tibetan man. The biggest argument here seems to be, “Well, Tilda is soooo talented.” So what? Instead of giving the role to a gifted Asian actor, one who could get their foot in the doorway in terms of introducing them to the American audience, we get Tilda Swinton who has an Oscar and is not begging for roles at all. Anything to protect the precious womynz, amirite?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59185 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59185 Fri, 29 May 2015 12:27:29 +0000 MOWsince95 It fits the freakish SJW 4-tier heirarchy:
                  Sexual Deviancy > Bitchdom > Favored Races > White Men.
Mind you, tier 4 are the lowest of the low to the closed minded SJW c~~~s.  Tilda is tier 2, so she is held in higher regard than tier 3 Jordan.  A f~~~ing freak who wants his nuts cut off to surgically become a bitch would be tier 1, and thus take precedence over Tilda, but both tiers are held as sacred to the SJWs.

SJWs are the dumbest f~~~ing creatures nature ever devolved from slime.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59203 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59203 Fri, 29 May 2015 13:20:36 +0000 Jim01 marvel is one of the most left wing companies out there so that doesn’t surprise me

Eventually women will get bored of comic books/films and Marvel will find its core readership have long since left. Maybe then when the following trend women disappear they might cater to actual fans of comic books

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59205 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59205 Fri, 29 May 2015 13:35:18 +0000 RoyDal I tried to like the Dr Strange series during my comic book days. It never really caught on with me. Recasting an Oriental male character as a Scottish woman? That extinguished any flicker of interest I had left. If it gets rave reviews, maybe I’ll rent the DVD some day. Maybe.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59362 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59362 Fri, 29 May 2015 21:51:17 +0000 Zuberi Tau Never was a big fan of Doctor Strange but making the ancient one a Scottish woman is just retarded.

As far as black super heroes are concerned, I’d rather see a Black Panther, Luke Cage or another Blade film.

But Marvel and the coat f~~~ers in Hollywood would rather race swipe or gender swipe the Super heroes than keep everything familiar.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59753 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-59753 Sat, 30 May 2015 23:21:06 +0000 KingOfTheSea

Never was a big fan of Doctor Strange but making the ancient one a Scottish woman is just retarded. As far as black super heroes are concerned, I’d rather see a Black Panther, Luke Cage or another Blade film. But Marvel and the coat f~~~ers in Hollywood would rather race swipe or gender swipe the Super heroes than keep everything familiar.

Well, Luke’s getting a Netflix series in 2017 and Black Panther’s movie is there too, but unless there’s a legitimate reason for changing a character, which there rarely is, diverting characters from source material is nonsense.  The sad part is that the core membership that Jim mentioned is me…and I’m really considering dropping the big 2 because of their s~~~ to try to attract new readers at the expense of the older fans.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-60350 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-60350 Mon, 01 Jun 2015 05:29:31 +0000 TheBard Remember guys DC isn’t guilt with the exception of the current run on Batgirl lol. I had no problem with Jordan being cast of the Human Torch simply because I feel like he fits the role of Johnny Storm and I can deal with the fact that him and Sue or step siblings or each just came out a different race lol. I myself am not too familiar with Dr Strange and never read any of his solo comics. I only know him through his time on the New Avengers post Civil War. For anyone interested though there was a Dr. Strange animated movie that came out in 2007, before Marvel started to appeal to feminists, and it is pretty good. If you don’t want to buy it it is currently on Netflix.

As we all know these people don’t use logic and will find anything to complain about like with Age of Ultron. Since Scarlet Johanson was pregnant it made the most sense to have Ultron kidnap Black Widow so she had less screen time. Also she did most the work to be saved. All Hulk did was open a door, she used her knowledge of morse code and radio skills to let the Avengers know where she was. Marvel’s leftist and feminist switch has gotten me to buy hardly any of their books these days. In the female Thor book one page made a reference to people who support gamergate being the bad guys and in another post Thornia hit a bad guy and said “that’s for using feminist like it’s a 4 letter word”. Marvel seems to also get the free pass feminists get because they never get called on anything in their movies while DC gets s~~~ for no reason. Take Batman and Spider-Man for example. When it was announced the sequel to Man of Steel would have Batman in it people complained about Batman not getting a solo film first and we needed one even though Batman has had 7 live action movies, not counting the Adam West movie. Now take the fact Spider-Man is being added to Civil War and no one is complaining about that. In fact Batman v Superman is getting tons of s~~~ from Marvel fan boys because having Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all in one movie is too much, not counting Aquaman or Cyborg since Aquaman will probably only show up at the end and Cyborg will just be Victor Stone. Now look at Civil War which will have Captain America, Iron Man, Black Widow, Falcon, Ant Man, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Winter Solider, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, and Black Panther. Civil War isn’t getting crap from anyone. I have no problem with Marvel putting so many characters in Civil War and think it is cool, I find the solo superhero movie to be an outdated concept expect for an origin tale. However people need to realize if DC wants 3 heroes in a movie that is totally ok too.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-60776 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-60776 Tue, 02 Jun 2015 06:47:05 +0000 KingOfTheSea I don’t really care for DC after the New 52 rolled around. I was one of the fans really on-board and excited about it and it kind of seemed like a fumbled attempt. Some of the stories have been good, but I felt like a lot of the heart and defining traits for most the characters got wiped away for something of a “sanitized” version, which came off bland to be. Just my two cents. As for the films, I give neither side a “free pass”. I myself do not look forward to DC’s films because it seems they’ve adopted the MoS model and I didn’t care for the film. Again, these are all personal opinions.

 

The bottom line to me is that both sides are committing the same crime: abandoning the old readership that has been supporting them for decades for the sake of being trendy (and yes, I will definitely concede that Marvel is more guilty of pandering to the SJW/feminist crowd) and then being s~~~ out of luck when the flaky new readers they just brought aboard leave at the first little thing that offends them. The thing that grinds my gears is that it’s clearly NOT about representation: Both Sif and Valkyrie got their own series recently and neither of them sold enough to last more than 12 issues. The fact is that women WANT male heroes changed to females because, let’s fact it, they’re bitches that can’t stand the fact that the most famous and powerful heroes are men.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-62300 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-62300 Fri, 05 Jun 2015 03:05:00 +0000 flightspace I think both decisions were f~~~ing stupid. The new fantastic four trailer looks awful, and this is the first i’ve heard of it but casting a woman just because you have some sort of moronic bechdel test quota to meet… Whoever did that deserves to be shot in the gut. That and whoever filled the Peggy Carter series with all that feminist propaganda. These are the weak spots in the MCU. You want a black protagonist? The Luke Cage series looks like its going to be awesome. You want a kickass female character? We already got Skye, Melinda May, Mockingbird, and Aka Jessica Jones and Captian Marvel on the way. You don’t need to hijack the male characters. Especially the old male characters. Thats like, the one super underrepresented demographic. Try to apply the bechdel test to old men, to anything but the west wing. You lose that battle, my friend.

SOMETIMES, just sometimes, these casting choices work out. The black nick fury nailed it so well that they made a character after him in the comics, Nick Fury jr. Which still fits chronologically. But its like Robert Deniro said in this speech for all the tisch graduates, sometimes you just don’t get the part because you’re not the right fit,  he auditioned for martin luther king and he could have acted the f~~~ out of that part, but despite being qualified as an actor he’s just not bald or black enough for it. Its hilarious but true. Any good director knows it too. Which is why the Dr. Strange movie is poised to be such a fantastic failure. You have an old monk in a temple, you want to see the history of his character on the lines of his face. Not some posh victorian downton abbey looking motherf~~~er with an air of bitchy aristocracy. Benedict cumberbatch could play the f~~~ out of Dr. Strange, but not dragging the rest of the BBC on his coattails. This is bulls~~~.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-62351 <![CDATA[Reply To: SJW Hypocrisy: Doctor Strange]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sjw-hypocrisy-doctor-strange/#post-62351 Fri, 05 Jun 2015 06:47:09 +0000 KingOfTheSea Right, but Marvel’s female editors and mangina writers have been learning if they hijack male characters and make them female, they get more sales. Note the Thor debacle right now: Before making Thora the Exploiter, Marvel tried giving Valkyrie AND Lady Sif series to head in (Valkyrie as a team leader and Sif as the main character) and both flopped. Because as much as feminist “fans” try to say they just want representation, it really comes down to systematically tearing the b~~~~ of men and humiliating them. So, they make the real Thor “unworthy” and make a new one and she gets sales because a lot of the Thor die-hards want the complete collection and to stay in the loop while getting a minor feminist boost. The girls will leave and the offended fans won’t come back, leading to what we’re seeing now which is the fastest-dropping sales title in Thor’s history.

 

As for the casting, I have no plans to watch FF. There are too many rights that should go back to Marvel tied into it and Trank sounds like a f~~~ing SJW every time he tries defending it. We just want something true the the source material. If it fails and Marvel can either buy the rights back or broker a deal with Fox a la Sony and Spider-Man, we now have access to the rights of all the FF, Doom, Galactus, the Silver Surfer, Kang the Conqueror, and more. Strange, I’m still torn on as they haven’t cast Swinton definitively yet, but they HAVE said that they plan on casting a female for the role. They might change their mind, but we’ll see. Also, flightspace, I hate to be “that guy”, but they had a black Nick Fury actually based visually on Samuel L. Jackson long before his appearance in Iron Man within the Ultimate comics imprint. They just made Nick Fury Jr. because they hadn’t yet devised a way to switch Ultimate Nick Fury over to the mainstream (616) continuity and they wanted to be more in-line with the films.

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