While I am an active viewer of this website, and am highly skeptical of marriage (I have a nine year old son who keeps me busy and therefore prevents me from doing dumb things with women), I still like to date women, but with my eyes open. I consider myself a reasonably attractive person, both look wise, financially wise, and personality wise.

I had a pretty good first date with someone. She seemed to really be into me. After the date, we texted and chatted a bit the next morning…but then in the PM, crickets. I am not a chaser or play games, so I am not the kind of person to beg for a reply. Of course, there could be an emergency on her end, but often, dates go well, we set up a second date, and then they get flaky, disinterested, or seem to change. A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond.”

I truly do believe that women generally do not have logical reasoning, but I was curious if you had this experience, or any other comments about it. Before MGTOW, I would have been upset with myself or second guessing me…I am not doing that at all, but I still don’t understand this phenomenon. Is it some game where they want to be chased? I am not a chaser.

A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond.”

I have had this quite a lot and, quite frankly, my self confessed arrogance agrees that I probably am. To me personally, a comment / response saying this tells me they might have low self esteem and therefore not someone I would want to date anyway. Think of all the emotional crap and “reassurance” you would have to constantly give to someone like this? I am feeling emotionally drained just THINKING about it.

At the end of the day, if you are a successful / educated man and doing OK looks / health wise then yes, you are going to be superior in comparison to many guys, especially beta white knights. I would also be tempted to see such a comment as a way of them saying “s~~~, you aren’t easily controlled /manipulated by women and therefore could see through my bull s~~~ – I concede sooner rather than later.”

Whatever way I have described above – I personally see it as so and have it as my belief system. I value myself and my MGTOW mindset (of many years) reinforces the fact that I should maintain MY standards and not accept second rate behaviour, women or even people in my life. Once you get it in your mindset that YOU are the prize and not the woman, things will change dramatically. As I said at the start. Arrogant mindset? Most likely.

What can a woman offer you?
Sex? Well, you only have sex like, 1 or 2 % of the time, the rest is every day stuff. That and sex really isn’t hard to get, even if you pay for it, or whatever.

Companionship? The best companions you can have are long term MALE friendships. Decent male friends are worth their weight in gold as they will keep you grounded and point out things you might be “love blind” to. A woman will often try to keep you away form your friends because they KNOW this.

Financial help? If you are a successful guy, or even just content doing something lower end, but can afford to pay your bills and live, then taking on a woman will unbalance that and your cost of living will most likely sky rocket. Women are like a business investment – what will you gain from this venture?

Children? If you are THAT bothered, there is always adoption or, as science and technology continues, I imagine sperm and even ovum donors will become more and more commonplace and you could “buy” your own child, free from some nagging harridan of a mother.

So basically, if a woman says you are too good for her, take that as a compliment and carry on. Take it as a sign that you are separating from the average male population and climbing the mountain and getting a taste of the rarefied atmosphere – the air is very crisp and clean in the MGTOW-Sphere.

A few times a woman told me afterwards “I thought you were too good for me and you wouldn’t be interested in me, so I didn’t respond……….. is it some game where they want to be chased?

VERY common bulls~~~.

This means one of three things:
• It’s either a bulls~~~ line (or a lie)
• She actually has a low opinion of herself and has just revealed it.
• Both.

If this were in person, I would call her out: “Don’t ever let anyone hear you say that again. That’s like I telling someone you have a very low opinion of yourself. But I thank you for saving me the time to even bother with you..” (and say it with a smile)

But in a text message, I would just send:: “that’s adorable”……… or just “cute” ( to indicate I know what she’s up to )

I believe women suffer from a type of reverse grandiosity.

On the surface, she has a low opinion of herself – and just said so. But under the surface, her ego could be enormous. Using my example response, you can find out which. If she responds with outrage (or anger), it means she fed you a bulls~~~ line — MASKED as extreme insecurity — and you know she is lying to get you to pursue her. She wants to say something pathetic to get you try and hieghten her value. “Oh I think you’re wonderful” or some such bulls~~~. Don’t do it.

If she really believes it, then she could still be f~~~able, but now you’re dealing with the type who starts crying when she gets naked, is no fun to be around, and is constantly putting herself down to get you to lift her up. Exhausting.

She’s bad news either way. I have known TOO MANY women who put themselves down like that, with comments like “I feel fat today” and I will play with them by saying “Well, I wasn’t going to say anything…….” because I can play the game too. She was digging for a compliment and didn’t get one. The reactions range anywhere from a giggle to outright hostility.

Women like to put on a “low self esteem” exterior, but watch out. It’s a s~~~ test and you could uncover a beast.

Treat it like a game and you’ll do fine.

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You’re absolute right not to respond or pursue further at this time. The big take-away here is, she’s NOT FUN. That kind of comment “I didn’t think you would be interested in me” is NO FUN. You could even respond that way “you’re no fun”. No fun is the deal breaker. If she chooses pathetic over playful, then don’t bother.

The good news is they have NO idea what real “value” is, so don’t think it has anything to do with you or reality or logic.

For f~~~s sake, the truth is- you probably didn’t treat her s~~~ty enough.

She just made up his mind for him. “I don’t think you would be interested in me”.

“If you say so , sweetie”.

It’s not even about whether or not HE is interested. She is just not interest-ING.

since she thought I wasnt good enough, it doesnt really matter..

She didn’t say you weren’t good enough. She said SHE wasn’t good enough.

Take her word for it.

“You’re too good for her” means she likes to be treated like crap.
https://www.mgtow.com/audio/how-to-treat-women/

Entropy wrote:

For f~~~s sake, the truth is- you probably didn’t treat her s~~~ty enough.

Roger that.

Modern women are a playground for the masochistic insane! If they only knew just how repulsive they really are…

Well Tower, they might still find out eventually en masse. I know that’s the same day dream as about the NAWALT one but hey, even if they won’t find out we are here to help them to, aren’t we gents..?