I already knew all this.  I can be frank with you simply because you are a “god” who is above all us peons.  And because you are a “god” I expect you to be more intelligent than me and/or outwit what I am about to say.

Are you really thinking for yourself when you are following the dictations of others?

You talk about self worship, but half the issues “self worshippers” deal with are caused by others who follow the same philosophy.  So you can bash feminists, not that you directly have, but they are following the same ideology you are.  Why view them as “wrong”?

Or better yet, the Christians “do as thou wilt”, when they acknowledge their God.  No one is forcing them.  Why view them as in the wrong?

the truth is that it is about individualism and nonconformity.

If one is trying to be an individual, like everyone else, are they conforming?

The majority of Satanists don’t believe that God or the devil exist.

For something that doesn’t exist, they sure do spend a lot of time talking about it.  It is a reactive philosophy that cannot get by on its own merit.

Now, “god” give me your response.  “Enlighten” me from my “darkness”.  Why should I listen to you?  Convert me o knower of truth.

In regards to Christianity this is untrue.   I don’t understand what angle you are coming from so I will let you provide the first “proof” for your point.  In regards to Satanism being atheist or agonistic this is also untrue.  Satanism is self worship, it is about deification of ones own will as that of God.  They believe they are God.  It is a philosophy full of contradictions, lacks reason (but claims to use it), provides poor evidence, and actually causes most of the problems we as MGTOW have to deal with.   It is a reactionary philosophy that is incapable of sustaining itself on its own terms and principles.  It has no regards to truth in any form, but lowers man to nothing more than an animal in all respects not just some.

Satanic principles are pretty MGTOW.

Satanism is Satanism, MGTOW is MGTOW.   Members of MGTOW have a wide variety of beliefs.   I have acknowledged this on another thread, but their are a minority of Satanists in MGTOW.  There are also a minority of Christians in MGTOW.  Everyone else is just trying to understand the issues with feminist culture.

You are going to have to try a lot harder than that if you want a conversation/debate/conversion story/etc.   I am not saying this to be an asshole, but do you even know what you are talking about?

Explain how/why/etc, because I have studied and glanced over a lot of philosophies, Satanism included, and I cannot take it seriously.

They worship themselves which actually is a great way of living. The majority of Satanists don’t believe that God or the devil exist.

listen to your self….”They worship themselves which actually is a great way of living”

Feminists worship them selves; ask men it that’s a great way of living?

MGTOW is not self worship! We’re here helping others because we have compassion for them, the nightmares they (we) suffer, the lost sanity, and their (our) torn hearts. Self worship is a feminist, a gynocentric church if you will. LOOK AT ALL THE DESTRUCTION! Selfishness is different than self worship, selfishness is the preservation of one’s self. Self worship is placing one’s self ABOVE ALL ELSE, ABOVE ALL OTHERS, It’s a dangerous and deadly practice, just like feminism, it leads to death!

Then you have Aleister Crowley which literally enjoyed being f~~~ed in the ass.

Neitzche, who had a branch off version of this philosophy, ended up losing his mind and became a raving madman.  His last moments, if I remember correctly, were hugging a horse and saying “I love you.”

Anton Lavey, the founder of the Church of Satan (US Branch), is “rumored” to renounce his own faith at the time of death.

These are just some of the philosophers who were involved in this stuff.  That is if you want to look at the philosophers themselves and not the argument.

If you want to philosophize about the philosophy, I would recommend you come back better armed.

This is the area for random stuff on MGTOW so be easy on me I wish that I could be blind dumb and convinced that the everythings OK you wanna swap brains? Id love to be a dumb c~~~ who thinks CBC is the voice of truth etc… Its a crime that I have seen the things “we have” (your out there) I wish every day I was stupid, and blind cause thats bliss – but our souls forbid it.

People that actually worship the devil are Christian believers by definition, while in Satanism most people are atheist or gnostic. In regards to Christianity this is untrue. I don’t understand what angle you are coming from so I will let you provide the first “proof” for your point.

In order to actually worship Satan one must believe in him first. In order to believe in Satan one must acknowledge the existence of God, which makes one a monotheist. I guess a Jew also believes in the same Satan, and Muslims know the devil by a different name. I should have said “mono-theistic by definition” now that I think of it.

Since Laveyan Satanists do not believe in God or Satan as such, and has no appeal to a theist, most Laveyan Satanists are atheist, or gnostic at best.