MGTOWReputations – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 20:03:54 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/page/401/#post-34827 <![CDATA[Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/page/401/#post-34827 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 15:37:01 +0000 showmezgomez I suspect that how men and women view the double standard relating to sexual promiscuity is at the root of many of our problems. During high school I remember girls complaining in class about how unfair it is that women develop negative reputations for being promiscuous while men develop positive reputations for the same behavior.

While I believe that this observation is basically true, what matters is not whether it is fair or not, but how we should behave given that it is true. Here women are in a contradictory position – and that affects us men. Women want to be able to do everything that guys can do, but they don’t want to develop bad reputations for doing it. I also think that, in general, they are more concerned about their reputations than men are. But you can’t have it both ways. We guys are able to do a lot of the daring (and often dumb) things we do precisely because we don’t care what other people think.

This contradictory desire on the part of women creates problems because after they have done something that a guy would do that they feel they have the right to do, they face the consequences of a tarnished reputation. You would hope that they would simply accept their choice and learn from their emotional response to it, but unfortunately for us, they have another alternative: they can blame the guy. And boy is society ready to listen to that complaint.

They can indicate that they never really wanted to do what they did. They were somehow mislead or coerced. I’m not saying that all cases of women claiming coercion on the part of men are fabrications, but I am suggesting a powerful motive for a women to fabricate.

Men and women are different. Claiming otherwise can have destructive unintended consequences.  But given that some people want us to be the same, putting yourself in a position with a women which may lead her to have to later defend her reputation can result in horrific losses for the man in question. Better to avoid creating that situation at all costs.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35266 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35266 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 03:48:08 +0000 J.D Silvernail Why????? Reputation doesnt matter. Women falsely accuse men of rape all the time(for no reason). Why should we care about their reputations?

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35801 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35801 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 05:16:24 +0000 CelibateExcentric I find it hard to believe that women make false accusations for no reason, or that all false accusers deliberately seek out a man to falsely accuse in order to gain some kind of material benefit. I want to get a better understanding of why they do it.

I think young women nowadays have the wrong expectations about how they’re going to feel after hooking up with someone. They may think going into it that it’s not a big deal, that they have a right to get away with it just like men do. Or they may feel like hooking up is necessary in order to get a boyfriend.

But afterwards, if things don’t go how they want, they may feel more humiliated than they expect. They may not want to deal with the social repercussions that they don’t think should exist in the first place.

If this is a common motivation, then being aware of it as man will make it less likely that you’ll be falsely accused.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35969 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-35969 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:36:30 +0000 Beware the Lamiae Why should we care man, we’re celibate. But if we’re strictly looking at sociology, it’s plain to see the plethora of cause and effect, the whole last century of feminism slowly creeping into culture and law, literally remaking who people are.

They’ve obliterated gender roles. Insecure men and women have no clue who they are, what they like. The societal memes instruct them to do things that contradict 2 millions years of gender instinct. Boys wearing make-up and dresses, homosexuality becoming a hip trend. Girls dressing and acting like boys. The more we excuse the perversion of natural gender identity, the more negative effects we’ll see; birth rate decline, soaring divorce rate, single moms on welfare, misandry, affirmative action, effeminate young men, clueless sluts who hate themselves, a homosexual epidemic spreading like wild fire. It can’t go on like this because it’s unnatural. And that’s just western human sociology. Throw economics, monotheism, and nuclear technology into the mix, it’s a recipe for disaster on par with the bubonic plague.

Today’s average female is completely indoctrinated by feminism. So it’s no surprise they feel ashamed for promiscuity, they are promiscuous sluts. The number of sexual partner per woman, compared to men, is at least quadrupled. The reason is because they ultimately decide whether sex occurs and they slut it up all the time. If a man sat in the bar waiting for a chick to by him a drink, trying to f~~~ him, his number of sexual partners would be sky high too.

I tell it like I see it. The church held a false monopoly on ethics. It’s reasoning for prescribing sexual ethics was endorsed by fear tactics, shaming and unfair treatment of women (the Bible) It’s reasoning for prescribing sexual ethics SHOULD HAVE BEEN more like; women have a instinctive place in being loyal and helpful to men and the family unit, women have a instinctive duty to choose sexual partners wisely and honor them, women are physically and mentally inferior to men (obvious in anatomy and neurology, as well as history). Scientific thinking could have saved feminism from occurring but instead, no objective morality was surfaced in time and in place of the counterfeit morality offered by religion. The rebellion against religion burned down ethics in total, instead of salvaging the parts of Christianity that made sense. They threw out the baby with the bath water and then never bothered to build another baby. That’s how we got all the negative effects of feminism beginning 70 years ago.

Women were too busy peddling a bike with no tires (trying to be men rather than doing the exclusive role they were designed by nature to do)

Instead, they should embrace being born women and all the importance required by that role.  They are not doing that because they want to erase masculinity and make the world unisex. They think that memes and democracy and erase 2 million years of evolved DNA. Its pathetic. We need to accept and honor our nature and the roles its designed for us to play.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-36573 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-36573 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 09:29:38 +0000 sidecar

the double standard relating to sexual promiscuity

It’s not a double standard.  It’s a consequence of our basic biology, and there’s nothing anyone can do about that.

Sperm is cheap.  So cheap it doesn’t matter if men waste theirs.  Nobody cares.  If a man had but a single sperm to give to a woman in his entire lifetime, you’d better believe society would put pressure on him to use it wisely.  Meanwhile ova really are expensive.  Wombs are expensive.  When a woman gives hers out willy nilly, she’s voluntarily devaluing it.  She is demonstrating a cavalier attitude towards paternity for the supposed father of her children.  No man will ever be certain any children out of a promiscuous woman are actually his genetic legacy.  In a world where men are obligated at gunpoint to labor in support of children regardless of their true paternity based solely on the word of an inconstant and promiscuous women, is it any wonder promiscuous women are seen as a greater breeding risk, and therefore significantly less valuable than chaste women?  This is how it is, and it is not the fault of men when a woman fails to accept it and devalues herself.

Hell, for that matter, it’s not just women.  Which commands a higher price?  A new car just off the lot, or one with a few hundred thousand miles on it?  Is it a double standard to refuse full sticker price for a used up clunker?  Women have no right to complain when they add on the mileage and find themselves unable to charge full price.  But complain they do.  And when they aren’t complaining they try to duck responsibility for their poor choices.  False rape accusations are fast becoming the preferred way of doing that because she’s not a slut if he “raped” her.

I find it hard to believe that women make false accusations for no reason,

Oh they have reasons.  Just not any good reasons. Selfishness is a reason.  Spite is a reason.  Irresponsibility is a reason.  Vindictiveness is a reason.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-36585 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-36585 Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:00:25 +0000 There’s a double lie to that double standard!

Firstly, it’s the matriarchy or the old hen’s brigade or the women’s committee that spit chips, contort their faces and speak in “possessed” voices when there’s a slut around their guys giving it out for free.
It’s the women of this world who really impose the double standard. Think back to high school when the bitches turned on some poor bitch who was giving it away for free to the boys, especially if one of the boys was considered relationship material of one of the head bitch girls.
The same goes in the workplace and all through any community. It’s the bitches that gang up and go feral and isolate the “slut”
I know from living in a community that the married wives club would get extremely nasty and gossipy if there was a single woman in their own age group giving it out amongst their husbands single friends, They’re all unbelievably insecure about their monopoly on vaginas.
If it was up to guys, we’d be happy if every bitch on the planet started giving it out for free.

Guys look down their noses at sluts but only when considering them as relationship material, and for good reason!!!
Women jumping off the c~~~ carousal looking for a beta male provider think the same of male sluts too, so there’s no double standard there.

Guys think their partners are sluts when they cheat, but women think the same when their partners cheat too, so there’s no double standard there either.

The second part of the lie is that men sleep with more partners than women.
If you’re a 7/10 and you’re looking at a 7/10 partner, do you seriously entertain for a moment that she hasn’t slept with at least 3 to 5 or more times the amount of partners that you have ?????????????????????????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,seriously, lol ~wink~, keep it real banana peel!
If you’re a 7/10, and you’re looking at a 6 or even 5/10, do you really believe you’ve slept with more partners than she has?????,,,,,,,,lol…what type of crack pipe are you using?
I reckon if you’re a 7/10, you could go down as low as a 2/10 and at least put even-money on the fact she’s slept with more partners than you.
A tiny minority of Stella Alpha males sleep with 10 to 100 times the amount of partners we average males do,,,and women throw themselves at them. From what I’ve seen in the last 40 years, there’s not many females applying the “Double Standard” to their own sexual practice.
Does anyone here know of any females that adhere to the mythical double standard????
It’s been the same since at least the mid 70’s, probably earlier.

To sleep with a partner the average male has to go through an enormous amount of work, time, money, hit and miss and trial and error.
All a woman has to do is smile at a guy,,,and in many cases, all she has to do is drop her guard, lol

Yet, we still accept this “double standard” accusation imposed by “The Patriarchy” as being real, lol
All that s~~~ changed about a half a century ago with the discovery of women’s birth control, the pill.
It’s hilarious that we still shut up in shame whenever the “double standard” comes up,,,,,,,and it ALWAYS comes up, like some sort of trump card.
The reality is, after a lifetime of indoctrination, we’re far more brainwashed and shamed than we could ever possibly believe we are, and the double standard is an excellent example, and you bringing it up only shows how well it’s still believed and passed off as truth.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37441 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37441 Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:27:47 +0000 CelibateExcentric All this talk about female promiscuity is confusing to a young man growing up now. This confusion is extremely dangerous for him.

I agree with Sidecar’s biological explanation for why we instinctively hold women to a higher standard than men with respect to promiscuity. I think the problem is that both young men and young women refuse to accept that this cognitive bias exists until it is too late. And while women need to be honest with themselves about the potential for negative perceptions of their promiscuous behavior, men also should recognize that they may be putting a woman’s reputation at risk by encouraging her to be promiscuous. We can’t put all the responsibility for sexual decision-making on either party.

As I said above, this issue of female promiscuity matters for men because some women will say anything to defend their reputations, even if what they say isn’t true. Society seems too eager to listen and too afraid to question their accounts regardless of the evidence or the stakes involved for the men in question. Look at this Rolling Stone fiasco. No one in that magazine was willing to question “Jackie’s” story. They relaxed their journalistic standards out of an extreme sensitivity to the “victim’s” wishes.

If you are a man, you cannot rely on anyone but yourself to protect you. I am disgusted at how our society has come to view men, at how easily it succumbs to it’s biases. But we have to accept these biases and somehow live with them, as frustrating and unjust as they are. Some useful ways I think are managing your desires through meditation and using your anger as a motor to drive constructive work.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37466 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37466 Tue, 07 Apr 2015 17:13:03 +0000 I smell TROLL S~~~!

http://www.mgtow.com/womens-shelter/

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37671 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37671 Wed, 08 Apr 2015 02:41:10 +0000 sidecar

We can’t put all the responsibility for sexual decision-making on either party.

Bulls~~~.  We very much CAN and SHOULD put all the responsibility for sexual decision making on one party.  On the party that makes the sexual decisions.  On women.

Did you read nothing I wrote?  Do you not get that women, by fact of biology, are the gatekeepers to sexuality?  Women have the sole “right to choose”.  They should face the sole responsibility for their choice.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37688 <![CDATA[Reply To: Reputations]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/reputations/#post-37688 Wed, 08 Apr 2015 04:33:18 +0000 BrainPilot With control comes responsibility…although feminists spend their lives trying to separate the two.

Any feminist will say we should have a woman president. An American president is commander of all US military in peace or war. I’ve never heard a feminist demand that half the military be women, or that half the combat casualties of any conflict should be women.

Any feminist will say that half of all doctors should be women. Wanna take a guess why this isn’t the case? Here’s a hint: half of all medical students are women. Here’s the answer: only about 35% of those female medical students are still practicing medicine full time 5 years after medical school. The reason is that the practice of medicine is a gigantic responsibility, and plaintiff attorneys will not let you off the hook for a screw up just because you have a vagina.

All the control and validation that comes with power suddenly starts to look a LOT less attractive when you add some responsibility and accountability to it.

Many women want all the attention and other benefits of behaving like a slut. Aside from the occasional honest prostitute, none of them are willing to be identified and held accountable for that decision. Having successfully blamed men for everything else, why wouldn’t they follow the same pattern?

Assume power, make the decision, reap the benefits of it, shift the downside responsibility to men.

Women are half the vote, but not half the taxes.
Women want half the political power, but not half the military casualties.
Pregnant women have all the power to make decisions vs abortion, adoption, birth… men pay for whatever the decision is.
Women believe women should hold half the CEO jobs, but not half the mining, construction, oil field, agriculture or ANY other dirty, dangerous jobs that MUST BE done.
Women want equal pay with men, but still want men to pick up dinner check.
Women espouse that we are all equal, but still want to ‘marry up’.
Women want equal respect from men, but still want men to open their doors for them.

If you find it hard to believe that women make false accusations for no reason, it’s because you haven’t been paying attention.

And if you think I ‘just have to accept these biases and live with them’ just because mass numbers of ignorant people (collectively called society) accept them, then you’re in a coma…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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