This cafe at the same time is generally full of tradesman and white collar men alike. They gawk, chat up and gather around the women. I walk in, im a regular, and order my coffee and proceed with MGTOW lifestyle. After a while not giving these women any time I could see the really attractive ones slyly looking at me out the corner of my eye repeatedly or using their phone screens as a mirror to sneak a look if I was looking at them or checking them out. Now, the trick I used was not looking down or scanning my phone, I stood up striaght, chest out and looked ahead at the chalkboard menu. I waited about 5 mins for my coffee and the longer I waited the more I noticed the women continually and desperately looking at me and just wanting that validation, even the hot staffer was now looking up from the espresso machine regularly at me. Great feeling to know these princesses are attention whores and have that expectation that men should be looking at them continuously so they can feel better about themselves or call him a creep. Grab my coffee, swing around look directly at the door and make a bee line, zero interaction with them!

I would like to hear some similar stories from the guys here.

It can’t be that I’m ugly as F~~~. I have countless women approaching me on Facebook just because they happen to see my profile pic and they think “I’m cute” so they want to hit on me in Facebook messenger. 17 women so far this season. I don’t ever respond back anymore. Only one type is attracted to me, and I don’t need any more creepy women-messenging stories.

But in public? Don’t think so. Maybe because I look poor to them just because I don’t have a decent-looking luxury car that I ever drive.

It can’t be that I’m ugly as F~~~.

I don’t even think it is that, I think they just want the attention. And nothing destroys a woman more when you look them squarely in the eye and say indifferently “You’re not my type!”

When I do mess up from time to time (I can’t help it a guy sometimes really needs to look at eye candy), I can tell that the girls always look at me with an expression like “Do you think I am hot? Ok, good, I think that you are admiring my hotness.”

It’s like they are seeking my validation.

I can tell that the girls always look at me with an expression like “Do you think I am hot? Ok, good, I think that you are admiring my hotness.” It’s like they are seeking my validation.

That’s exactly what they are doing!

I did a similar experiment at the place where I train martial arts. I posted mine on the thread “When this “nice guy” thing will stop” (or something like that, don’t remember the name exactly). There is this woman there that every mans seems to drool for, and although she is not any top model, I can see the appeal she has. I, more to keep my sanity than for the experiment itself, decided to ignore her as much as I could. Since we are training on the same place, and sometimes on the same class, it wouldn’t be possible for to not say hi when she addresses me or when it is obvious I saw her, or it might look odd for me. HOWEVER, I try to keep the MINIMAL contact possible. For me, I treat her as one of the guys, and since she barely speaks to me, I don’t give a s~~~ about her either. And, as I stated on the previous thread, changes were SUBTLE but hey were THERE. Specially when there is NO OTHER MAN available to give her attention. It’s fascinating actually.

Unfortunately I had to stop my observations on the subject since she had to go back to her home country for the time being, but I am looking forward for her return since I am curious to see HOW FAR would SHE go to get MY ATTENTION. I already draw a few conclusions from this few interactions (or should I say NON-INTERACTIONS) I had with her:

a) PUA’s have no IDEA what they are talking about. Really, I am starting to think that all this talk about “confidence” and “clothes” and whatever PUA’s preach about (sorry, but my PUA knowledge is not that broad, actually my knowledge of them is as minimal is it can be) seems to be bulls~~~. Being aggressive the way they preach will most likely end you in trouble. IRONICALLLY enough, IGNORING THEM (but REALLY IGNORING them) seems to be the most effective scenario.

b) They CRAVE attention, I think the same way some men like to show off. The thing is, MEN have been practicing self-control (either by peer pressure or by self-actualization) for sometime now. I don’t think women had to control their need for attention… EVER. So when you just don’t give a f~~~ you stand out, when you are THE ONLY ONE not giving a f~~~, something clicks on their brain.

I was going to wait until I gather more data on the subject. It is funny too, if those subtle changes on her behavior had happen when I was still a blue pill man, I would have had done something stupid by now (like, you know, trying to win her over, compete with the other men of the academy for her attention), but since I’ve been taking the red pill, I am facing this almost like a researcher.

I have to admit though, at one point I caught myself looking at her after sometime just before she left. I was actually enjoying the little disguised show she was putting. Oh well, I am human after all.

Anyway, we will how far this will go. I intend to try to starve her from attention as much as possible, specially now that I realize that even if for some moments I was actually drawn to her. It is a win win situation as far as I can see. I either get a little bit of fun with her trying to get my attention, or I get peace. Either way I will just go my way.

This is my story, will keep you guys posted if anything else happens.

Cheers

Don’t look away immediately.  Instead do things like a slight shake “no” of your head, a short contemptuous stifled laugh, a slight wrinkling of the nose, those sort of things.  Then look at something else specific instead of just looking randomly away from her, like you find the employee of the month sign on the wall to be infinitely more fascinating than her for example.  It can help if you imagine every woman you see has a “blue waffle” hidden under her clothes.  If you don’t know what that is, google it.  I am not going to post it here.  Consider yourself warned.

Do this properly and the resulting behavior is amazing.

Instead do things like a slight shake “no” of your head.

Like this alot!