An unapologetic attitude for attempting to maintain two of our God given dispositions, in a society which attempts to seperate them:

A sexual appettite for women;

And,

Our innate desire to maintain a sense of autonomy (the ability to self-govern). It is our God given rationale, which as men enables us to cynically look at the society we are confronted with and rationally realize that we are confronted with the irrational, yet EXPECTED to modify our behavior accoringly.

Everyones story here is different. But, those two premises is how I pervieve the situation.

There is more I would like to post, but I am on my cell. Any input/perspective is appreciated.

I would like to know: what is the common denominator for you with MGTOW?

The common denominator is to take the red pill, and the red pill is the realization that the deck is stacked against you and it is best to look within yourself for happiness.

Apprecieate your perspective, here is mine.

While I understand the need to place ‘prototypes’ and ‘plattitudes’ for the purpose of man to categorize dispositions, I at one and the same time fundamentally disagree with it.

“Blue pill” vs “Red Pill” is in itself a false dichotomy: a logical fallacy. Two place us into two disrinct camps, is an oversimplification of the process.

My “trust” of women, declined when I met a married girl that sinply wanted sex. Really f~~~ed me up.

I personally chose, as a result, to find older, more “susceptible” women… Turns out, they put sex out the same night. Paid for the bar tab…Hell, one even paid my rent!

What was the problem: they were 10+ years older, so they KNEW they were used up. Lol… Wow.

That is the common denominator. The longer you live and learn, the more knowledge you gain. Once I came to know and understand that I was viewed and valued only as a disposable resource, I took measures to secure a priority position for myself, in keeping as much of the resources I generated as I can.

Men that are not awakened to the truth(red pill), are not mgtow. It is true, the exclusion of men from mgtow is not desirable, but without exclusion there is no definition. Just as a female can never be a mgtow, a man that is still plugged into the matrix cannot be mgtow. He is a slave, which is the opposite of going his own way. His direction comes from the system and his validation from women. A man who observes the environment he is in and that looks within himself(the red pill), is at once aware of the truth, and free from bondage to other people’s expectations of him.

What is entirely amazing to me, is this Matrix quote of “red pill” vs. “blue pill”; as though it is Gods word incarnate. It is NOT.

This oversimplification of the world, and its dynamics, is ridiculous. Are women exploiting their sexuality and using men in our society? Yes! Am I aware of this, and modifying my behavior as a result? Yes!

But to dichotimize EVERYTHING into a prototypical false dichotomy: red pill vs. blue pill, is so archaic and ridiculous. It remids me of the notions of PUA categories as Alpha or Beta…lol really? There are TWO categories in which I am forced to succumb to?

Life is much more dynamic thn that, and anyone with the firesight to understand MGTOW in mondern society, MUST posess the understanding to see through such categories.