MGTOWMGHOW intro – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 21:14:08 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/page/250/#post-82724 <![CDATA[MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/page/250/#post-82724 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:24:45 +0000 On the Path Gentlemen,

I’ve been a long time lurker of these forums, and thought to finally come forward. Especially the introduction section has been very enlightening to me. Seeing that other men went through the exact same thing as I did is very supportive.

I’m Dutch, 29 years old, a scientist on my way to getting my doctorate. I’m looking forward to a future of working in science and doing my own thing all over the world to the day I die.

Two things stand out in GMOW, a life without a woman to bring me down. Sorry if the intro is too long.

My little brother got ‘fathered’ (a term I trademarked) at 21 after only a couple of months of dating. Oops, the birth control pills suddenly did not work. The mother of his child quickly changed (undiagnosed bipolar style), but my brother was raised to be kind and responsible, just as I was, and of course stuck around. His daughter was born and he stayed in the relationship for one year, while his girlfriend destroyed his self-esteem, his happiness and will to live while losing 15kg/30pounds of weight. I will always remember my parents calling me (they were on vacation) that my brother left his wife and child going to my parents’ home saying he would kill himself. I raced home (all the while imagining him hanging from the ceiling) to find him alive and completely distraught. They divorced, the best thing that could have happened to him, and he sees his daughter every other week in the weekend. The mother of his child keeps changing the rules of the initial child arrangements. He has no other option than to hire a lawyer and fight back every time this happens. He does not earn much, so my parents pay the lawyer bills and are very supportive.

I love my niece (who is 5 now) more than anything else in this world. But her mother and her grandmother are pure evil and are completely incapable of properly raising children. Unfortunately my brother is exhausted of continuously fighting for his child and unable to gain full custody.

My own experience with women is fortunately not as bad as my brother, but bad none the less. Girls annoyed me all the way through high school, I only started dating during my Master studies. These dates were with well educated women and were utterly horrible. First dates where I was used as a meal ticket, a girl that was already spending the little money I was going to make in the future on the decorations of our future house together (???), or criticizing everything about me and still expecting me to f~~~ her afterwards.

That was until I found the NAWALT. I thought I found someone who genuinely cared about me and who I was as a person. We shared interests and the sex was great. She was depressed and miserable from the start, because of a previous relationship where she was treated badly (something I now seriously disbelieve), so I spend all my energy and time on making her feel good about herself. I kept being myself, meaning I did not fall for ‘s~~~ tests’ or any of her bulls~~~, right up until she dumped me (four months in). It broke my heart, but she immediately told me she hoped we would get together in the future. Only now do I realize it was a way to break my spirit to make me more pliable in the future. And that was what happened, we got back together (I loved her) and I started sacrificing everything about myself to make her happy. We moved in together, got a cat and she started to criticize everything about me and expected more and more from me. In the end she dumped me because we were too different (no s~~~ Sherlock) meaning I wasn’t performing to her satisfaction, and I lost my home and my cat (this hurts the most), my happiness and my self-esteem.

I’ve been telling myself for over a year that she was different, that she cared about me and that the two years together were not wasted. But she only ever cared about herself. Truth sucks.

I look at women and see these high expectations without offering anything in return. I look at society and see that men are disposable and fatherhood is completely unappreciated. Most of my friends are now getting married and all I can think is why? There simply is no positive future with women, relationships, marriage and children for any reasonable, well thinking gentleman. When the game is rigged, don’t play. I’m going to do my own thing and I want to thank the creators of this site for creating a place of comradery and belonging but also all the contributors for their stories and support.

Cheers,
On the Path

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82737 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82737 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:46:13 +0000 Great path Path! We’re glad you signed up! Another scientist in the community! HOORAY! We’re where the smart men go!

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure something very very wrong with modern women! Welcome aboard!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82755 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82755 Wed, 15 Jul 2015 23:27:08 +0000 Voidraithe

I lost my home and my cat (this hurts the most)

The only pussy worth morning over losing. Welcome and I hope you stay, On the Path.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82786 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82786 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 00:09:21 +0000 Welcome On the Path

I would say I am sorry to hear for what happened to you but in reality it is an opportunity of a lifetime to build on your dreams and stop questioning your own self for the ‘shortcomings/deficiencies’ society would have us feel otherwise for not conforming to the rules of engagement (i.e. bend over and take it like a real man)

I’ve been telling myself for over a year that she was different, that she cared about me and that the two years together were not wasted. But she only ever cared about herself. Truth sucks.

It’s a great reminder time and again when the love hormones wanna tango inside a man’s heart. The escape from reality is believing in NAWALT. But red pill philosophy is AWALT.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82965 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-82965 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 05:12:27 +0000 My favourite part of your intro is “fatherhood is completely unappreciated”. That is a damn FACT! The stereotype is true that so many females have “daddy issues” because he wasn’t around. These females don’t understand how important it is to have a father around. Can you imagine being raised by a single mother? You are destined for failure because she isn’t going to teach the child any good habits. She will just teach the kid how to f~~~ up like she did.

I hope you eventually do win full custody because quite frankly, it is pretty much child abuse having a single mom “raise” a kid. How can a female(with the mind and attitude of a child) raise a child? That is idiotic. Children NEED their mature adult father figure around to teach them things like love, logic and forgiveness. Instead that c~~~ will teach her all men are evil and how to f~~~ guys over.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83065 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83065 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 09:04:14 +0000 On the Path Thanks for the warm welcome!
I don’t know if i’m going to be a major contributor, but I think it is important to tell our stories.

It was the introduction section on this site, reading about other men’s exact same troubles with women and how society treats men, that actually made me feel better.
After spending two years of caring and supporting my girlfriend, and finally getting dumped, I kept asking myself how I could ever trust a woman again, doubting myself because apparently my best was not good enough.

I realize now that my best is far more than I would ever get in return from a woman.
And realizing marriage, children (and subsequent divorce) are no longer in a man’s best interest, it is a very valid reason to not trust women.

Some would call this pessimism or defeatist, but quitting the rat race that is modern relationships has given me happiness and peace of mind I’ve never experienced before.

On the Path

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83073 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83073 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 09:27:00 +0000 ILiveAgain Another flower blooms in the manosphere garden.

Seems like summer has come at last ☺

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83108 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83108 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 11:51:42 +0000 RoyDal Welcome! And, congratulations on avoiding the marriage trap.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83158 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83158 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:20:15 +0000 Gunslinger Welcome good sir! You sound like you’ve figured it out before most of us did. I wish I had of broken it off with the current wife back in the day. I was so close two years in and didn’t due to w/e reason at the time. But I hope you keep the attitude of not marrying or anything, because it will only screw you over in the end. No matter what you do for her, they will just flip flop their stance on it later in life.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83240 <![CDATA[Reply To: MGHOW intro]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/mghow-intro/#post-83240 Thu, 16 Jul 2015 17:46:04 +0000 Binary Logic Welcome to the fold brother. May you find comfort, solace, and strength here.

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