Anyways, the idea of a traditional marriage, in my eyes, is when the man works and the woman takes care of the household. We as humans have survived thousands of years with this type of marriage, and sure, even in the past there has been marriages that haven’t followed this formula per se, but it seems as though ever since women have gotten independence, and especially within the past 30 years or so, the ideas of a traditional marriage have been thrown out the window. The more that women get independence and don’t need to rely on men, the more that the purpose of getting married, or in some cases the purpose of being in a relationship, is irrelevant. Men depended on women to keep the household together, and women depended on men to provide income. Lately, as I’m sure many of you have noticed, this isn’t needed anymore. And in a recent event that has happened to my family, once the woman in a marriage decided that she was making money and didn’t need to depend on the man for a income, she decided to take that small amount of independence and ruin said marriage. And it seems as though this situation is happening more often.

Again, I’m not saying that this happens all the time, but it just seems as though as women are getting paid better and are gaining more independence, they get this idea that they don’t need men and can do whatever they want, which is what happened in the marriage I mentioned. With this happening, are we really getting to the point where the only reason to even associate with the opposite sex, as a man, is just for pleasure? Is there really no reason anymore to be in a relationship, since the original purpose of relationships and marriage is becoming no longer relevant? And if this is the case, will we as a species survive much longer with this new-age ideology?

What are your thoughts on this?

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…is it just me, or does the Feminist movement completely destroy the value of marriage?

Some of their leaders have made destroying the family their stated objective. It’s working too.

It’s f~~~ing scary, if this continues, it’s not whether we’ll be forced into marrying that’ll be a problem, but the fact these psychopaths wants to control what we think, and especially enforce their line of thought onto others.

Marriage is never going to be what I want it to be so I am never going to be married.

If marriage is so great, how come precisely zero men in my life have come to me and told me to get married right away and how great it is?

A lot of women have though.

“You don’t want to lose her do you?” – Implied threat of If I don’t propose/marry she will leave.

“You need to show commitment to each other” – From her sister who was up her ass the other day about it.

“When are you getting married?” Pont blank from her Aunt at a family gathering (who ironically isn’t even married herself after turning down her partner several times, he never asked her again).

My Dad: “Marriage is a lot of work, she changed over time, but she’s a good woman your mother” – Yeah real glowing endorsement there Dad.

My Friend: “My wife and kids are good, lot of work…” he works a way higher paying job than her.  I point blank ask him should I get married, and other vague answers.

Other friend who is married “It’s a lot of trust to put your life out there with someone like that” – uh ok…

Lately it seems that the only marriages that have actually worked out are the ones that are based on religion.

If by “working out” you mean “working out for the woman”. Than yeah, sure.

Callidus wrote:

What I mean by this is that the man and woman that follow the traditional religious marriage are the ones that have been together and happy the longest

Again, if by “together and happy the longest” you mean “together and the woman is happy the longest”, again, sure.

Callidus wrote:

It seems that when two people get married and aren’t religious in some aspect don’t work out

And when two people get married and they ARE religious, than it doesn’t work out on the same aspects either. But since religion plays a huge part on their lives they keep together for “religious purposes”. With the man as a work horse and the woman as the “aristocrat class”.

Callidus wrote:

I’m sure this isn’t the case in all marriages, but this is just my personal observation, and this is my opinion based off of my observation

And those were my opinions based on my observations too.

Callidus wrote:

Anyways, the idea of a traditional marriage, in my eyes, is when the man works and the woman takes care of the household.

Yep, that’s traditional marriage alright. And, in this day and age, is as worthless as the “modern” marriage.

Callidus wrote:

We as humans have survived thousands of years with this type of marriage

We also lived for thousands of years in caves, huts, primitive cabins. We fought for thousands of years against the elements, animals and each other to survive. We don’t do most of these things anymore, since they worked in the past should we go back to our old ways again? Oh yeah, we have electricity, pipelines and all the modern comforts of TECHNOLOGY. So, just because it worked ON THE PAST, under DIFFERENT CRCUMNSTANCES, doesn’t mean it works TODAY.

Callidus wrote:

even in the past there has been marriages that haven’t followed this formula per se, but it seems as though ever since women have gotten independence, and especially within the past 30 years or so, the ideas of a traditional marriage have been thrown out the window

Yeah, it was about time for the idea of marriage being throw out of the window. I mean, sex is not worth my whole life, hopes and dreams. Also, women didn’t become “independent”. Nowadays they are more dependent than ever. It is just that instead of dependent on one man, which is already bad on itself, she is dependent on the state, which is ALL men paying the bills, which is worse. So, I don’t know where you got this idea that “women got independence”. Only if it is independence to screw up and reveal their true f~~~ing nature. Which it is not bad. I rather know the truth, no matter how hurtful it is than live a lie.

Callidus wrote:

The more that women get independence and don’t need to rely on men, the more that the purpose of getting married, or in some cases the purpose of being in a relationship, is irrelevant.

Not really. Again, what independence does women got? They got PRIVILEDGES, and that only make them more DEPENDENT on the state. Besides, the “purpose of being in a relationship” always were for the man provide and support the woman. So a “relationship becoming irrelevant” is not bad for men, if that is the case.

Callidus wrote:

Men depended on women to keep the household together, and women depended on men to provide income.

Bulls~~~. A man can keep a household together by himself. We are not emotionally stupid as women would like us to believe. And a woman CAN and SHOULD be able to provide for herself. Specially with the modern technologies we have today. The thing is, women DON’T WANT to. Which is too bad for them, and not my, or any man’s concern.

Callidus wrote:

Lately, as I’m sure many of you have noticed, this isn’t needed anymore

Regarding the dependence that man have for the woman? Absolutely, men are adapting. Women are better to keep up.

Callidus wrote:

And in a recent event that has happened to my family, once the woman in a marriage decided that she was making money and didn’t need to depend on the man for a income, she decided to take that small amount of independence and ruin said marriage

I don’t think women wanting to be independent “ruins the marriage”. Hell, a wife getting her own money would alleviate the burden of the men providing for the house. Lack of respect, entitlement, emotional dependence, lack of loyalty, those things ruin marriages.

Callidus wrote:

And it seems as though this situation is happening more often.

Yes, women’s entitlement and false sense of “independence” ruins everything, as does the men supporting this idea that either a woman is independent while depending on the state, or that a woman should have NO INDEPENDENCE relying on a man and leaching out of his resources.

Callidus wrote:

Again, I’m not saying that this happens all the time, but it just seems as though as women are getting paid better and are gaining more independence, they get this idea that they don’t need men and can do whatever they want, which is what happened in the marriage I mentioned.

Women getting paid more is not the problem, as long as they earn such income. Women being paid MORE for working LESS, or NOT AT ALL is a problem. And, again, that is NOT INDEPENDENCE. And they are allowed to do whatever they f~~~ing want, again, as long as they are willing to SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES, which they don’t because of men that thinks they are goddesses beyondd the approval of men, or children beyond the responsibilities of an adult.

Callidus wrote:

With this happening, are we really getting to the point where the only reason to even associate with the opposite sex, as a man, is just for pleasure?

That ALWAYS were the only reason to associate with a woman. We are getting to a point where we need MORE THAN THAT to have anything to do with a t~~~!

Callidus wrote:

Is there really no reason anymore to be in a relationship, since the original purpose of relationships and marriage is becoming no longer relevant?

Yep

Callidus wrote:

What are your thoughts on this?

I just describe them

Enjoy.

Frisbee wrote:

What I mean by this is that the man and woman that follow the traditional religious marriage are the ones that have been together and happy the longest

Again, if by “together and happy the longest” you mean “together and the woman is happy the longest”, again, sure.

Is it me that’s missing some vital part of the scheme, or what?