MGTOWIs it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 09:41:52 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/page/334/#post-55395 <![CDATA[Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/page/334/#post-55395 Fri, 22 May 2015 04:58:14 +0000 H8RealityWithHugePassion It’s often argued, and debated, it is said that as women get older, primarily starting in their 30’s, their dating/sexual market value starts to decline, meanwhile that is not the case for men, one guy said to me that a man can get a woman at almost any age but it usually doesn’t work that way for women.

Well I understand the evolutionary reason behind it, it’s because as guys, we evolved over the course of evolution to seek out women that had the best potential to bear children. This is how Carlos Xuma stated it, and I believe he is right:

“The reality is that men evolved over time to feel attracted to women that had the best potential to bear us children. The appearance of youth in a woman is one of the most highly sought after qualities.

(If you need any proof, just witness the billions and billions of dollars spent each year on plastic surgery and cosmetics.)

Unfortunately, when she’s past her late thirties, a woman is much less likely to bear children – and avoid the health risks associated with age.

So you’re only a natural, red-blooded male when you feel attracted to women who give off that glow of youth.”

In some ways, I like to think of this as life, reality, evolution, giving or dealing women with karma for their lack of initiative towards guys they are or were attracted to growing up, always expecting guys to make the first move, do the approaching and asking out, initiating, being the initiator, escalating, taking the lead, etc.

Because women will never know the pain, frustration of having to step out of your comfort zone socially, because a shy, introverted, socially-awkward girl has a much better chance of getting a date, a boyfriend, than an introverted, socially-awkward guy will at getting a date, a girlfriend, those that disagree with that are delusional.

So basically, I like to think of this as men having the last laugh.

Is it wrong for me to think like this? sorry, it’s just there are times I am bitter and resentful, angry, frustrated, p~~~ed off that I was dealt with the card of having to be the risk-taker, be the one that does the approaching and asking out, taking the lead, etc.

The deep root of my anger, frustration for why I hate this card, gender role, is because I never learned to accept and deal with it earlier, yes I know you can’t change the past obviously, but I feel I didn’t have the typical, normal life of a guy in his late teens and early 20’s.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55398 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55398 Fri, 22 May 2015 05:16:56 +0000 FreeGhost Being socially awkward isn’t a negative in todays society, just ask all the divorced men on this site. Embrace your introversion, you may see it as a curse, but I (as a fellow introvert) see it as a gift. You are dodging the gallows pole that women want to walk you up on.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55402 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55402 Fri, 22 May 2015 05:31:16 +0000 H8RealityWithHugePassion Ya but still, just as life, reality is NOT fair that the onus is placed on men to approach first, be the initiators, its also NOT fair that women have a shelf life for attractiveness. So maybe that means women get their taste of how reality is unfair once their mating market value declines.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55403 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55403 Fri, 22 May 2015 05:36:40 +0000 ILiveAgain It’s buying you time to grow up. Not be eaten at an early age.

The longer you go on like the the better chance you have at study and ‘getting on’

Think yourself lucky.

Just go ask BrainPilot ☺

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55410 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55410 Fri, 22 May 2015 05:53:48 +0000 griffin

It’s often argued, and debated, it is said that as women get older, primarily starting in their 30’s, their dating/sexual market value starts to decline, meanwhile that is not the case for men, one guy said to me that a man can get a woman at almost any age but it usually doesn’t work that way for women.

I understand the whole “Wall” metaphor but I really don’t believe women have all that much trouble getting laid at any age if they want to ( even if their looks have faded substantially)…I still think it’s harder for guys to get laid on the whole.

I mean let’s face it, there’s no shortage of men out there that will f~~~ anything given half the chance, and if a woman is even remotely aggressive about it, it’s a done deal and I don’t think it matters how she looks for the most part.

But in regards to the rest of what you said, why even care about it honestly? Men WILL have the last laugh, and you, yourself, being here….are getting that last laugh as well…so move on and enjoy!

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55424 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55424 Fri, 22 May 2015 06:57:23 +0000 H8RealityWithHugePassion

It’s often argued, and debated, it is said that as women get older, primarily starting in their 30’s, their dating/sexual market value starts to decline, meanwhile that is not the case for men, one guy said to me that a man can get a woman at almost any age but it usually doesn’t work that way for women.

I understand the whole “Wall” metaphor but I really don’t believe women have all that much trouble getting laid at any age if they want to ( even if their looks have faded substantially)…I still think it’s harder for guys to get laid on the whole. I mean let’s face it, there’s no shortage of men out there that will f~~~ anything given half the chance, and if a woman is even remotely aggressive about it, it’s a done deal and I don’t think it matters how she looks for the most part. But in regards to the rest of what you said, why even care about it honestly? Men WILL have the last laugh, and you, yourself, being here….are getting that last laugh as well…so move on and enjoy!

 

well obviously shy guys are going to struggle more than shy girls will.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55703 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55703 Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:40 +0000 hmskl'd

but I feel I didn’t have the typical, normal life of a guy in his late teens and early 20’s

same here … been there, done that

and to be brutally honest, my atypical approach to life continues to this day …  i really don’t know what went wrong in my teens and 20’s, 30’s etc

i won’t go back in my mind and try and untangle what happened; i’ve walked away from it all and a new existence has evolved w/o any emotional chains that bind … still attracted to them but no longer even care what the ladies think; don’t care what anyone thinks … tonight i’m heading out with friends, great meal, great company, good times, freedom. have nice weekend, all.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55704 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55704 Fri, 22 May 2015 23:08:16 +0000 Beer

I understand the whole “Wall” metaphor but I really don’t believe women have all that much trouble getting laid at any age if they want to ( even if their looks have faded substantially)…I still think it’s harder for guys to get laid on the whole.

I don’t think its hard for them to get laid…I think the wall is more about it becomes harder for them to find a decent guy who is willing to marry them when they are ready to settle down after 10-15 years of riding the c~~~ carousel.  A decent looking low mileage girl in her early to mid 20s has a much better chance of hooking a husband than she would if  she instead opts for 10-15 years on the c~~~ carousel and wants to marry in her 30s.  Marrying is dumb enough on its own…marrying a well worn vagina with little if any reproductive value left is so stupid its beyond words.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55705 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55705 Fri, 22 May 2015 23:13:28 +0000 Beer

It’s buying you time to grow up. Not be eaten at an early age. The longer you go on like the the better chance you have at study and ‘getting on’ Think yourself lucky. Just go ask BrainPilot ☺

This couldn’t be more true.  Your early 20’s are your prime years for setting up the rest of your life.  If you end up being 30, with a great career, a nice car, your own place, and no baggage women will be throwing themselves at you.

OP…its best to just not care about women…focus on yourself.  If you want some pussy you’ll get plenty when you are successful, and the best part is once you get into your mid 20’s the dumbest of the dumb as far as women are concerned have all already f~~~ed their lives up beyond belief at that point…so if you still do want a relationship at that point you can very easily weed out like 90% of the female population that would be a waste of your time to date anyhow.  Just cross out all the bitches with kids, that got fat already, and that have 100k worth of student debt for a degree in woman’s studies or some stupid s~~~, and you save yourself so much hassle in the long run.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55724 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is it wrong of me to have this mindset about mating market value for men, women?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-it-wrong-of-me-to-have-this-mindset-about-mating-market-value-for-men-women/#post-55724 Sat, 23 May 2015 00:45:07 +0000 Rennie

ISo you’re only a natural, red-blooded male when you feel attracted to women who give off that glow of youth.”

Don’t ever let anyone shame you into feeling otherwise either.

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