Well you know what? The loneliness is destroying me. I don’t think a human being is supposed to feel unwanted, unloved, not needed, and basically invisible all his life. That is precisely how I have felt pretty much for as long as I can remember.

While I may not have an interest in a traditional/ vanilla relationship……..I do desire a relationship with a woman. But none of them give me the time of day. I just can’t relate to any woman. It’s so much harder now than it was in the 90’s. Back then it was so easy to meet women. I just don’t have any kind of connection with these modern day women.

I can sit here and pretend that life is great without women. But it would be a lie. I just don’t feel good like this anymore.

I am NOT quitting MGTOW. I just don’t know how I am supposed to live my life happy…..if I do not have a woman in my life. Someone who loves me and cares about me.

* Get a pet.  A pet will need you, and as you feed it, it can show you attention and affection.

* Get a hobby.  Focus on building and doing something.

* Volunteer.  Find some cause to work on where you can see you will make a difference.

* Decouple your state of life from your worth.

* Find some purpose to your life, and what you can become and work on it.  Find your way and work on it there.  Focus on this.  Make it something bigger than yourself.

* Expect the loneliness to happen. It can happen, and does.  Don’t beat yourself up over it. Also, related, don’t expect yourself to be happy all the time.  You will have these moments.

* Do an inventory of what is good in your life, and state why it is good.  Give thanks for these things.  Let your mind dwell on the good things (like, do you have a job?).  Pretty much this: … whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable–if anything is excellent or praiseworthy–think about such things. (Yes I gave you some Bible there)

* Find some places you want to improve yourself and do that.

* Get some real friends who you can talk to and share interests with.

* Try to find a church somewhere, if that works for you.

* Reframe the “I can’t get a time of day from a woman” with something else.  What I am doing now, if I don’t get that, is see that they just don’t fit with me, and I value what I want done over the need for approval.

* Try to get a hug sometime.

It isn’t great you have a woman or don’t. Idea is to find way so get empowered so it won’t suck as much.  There are costs and challenges to going MGTOW.  Don’t let anyone tell you.  Count it good if you can overcome things.  You may, in regards to this, learn what works and help other MGTOW.   This is probably one of the hardest challenges you face about being MGTOW, next to the sex stuff.  It happens.

Considering how much stuff I have gone through, and do go through, and seems like the world doesn’t want me at all, I do have to fight, and I hope you can.  There is a bunch more here.  I would say try to look for ways you would also battle depression.  There are a lot of tactics here that can happen.

I had made mention of trying to get a survival guide for MGTOW.  I want stuff like this in it.  Anyhow, hang in there.

At the end of the day life should be about doing whatever it takes to make yourself happy…and only you know what that is going to take.

If you just want female attention every so often you could get massages, I mean legitimate ones, a woman caresses your body even if it isn’t sexual and you might chat a little. It really depends on how much female company you want in the end but an hour of massage would still be cheaper than a date in most cases.

You could consider what I did which was a Sugar Baby but those women or most of them are self entitled bitches who will p~~~ you off and not want to be around anyone they wouldn’t like to be around for free anyway.

There is a website called “MeetUp” it has all sorts of groups on it from all over the world, maybe you could join one of those and socialize a little, some of the groups are really simple things like just dinner outings etc. Join up and type some of your interests in and see what happens? http://www.meetup.com/

Speaking of that MeetUp site maybe we could start a MGTOW meet up group??

I hope your loneliness improves.

No specific rule stating you can’t have a women in your life….just don’t get married.

Truest words ever spoken!

Anonymous wrote:

You could consider what I did which was a Sugar Baby but those women or most of them are self entitled bitches who will p~~~ you off and not want to be around anyone they wouldn’t like to be around for free anyway.

Yes, I’ve tried that too, and it was hard on the brain.

Get an internet dating account, lower your standards, go out and f~~~ any woman that will comply, that cured me, but be careful with protection.

Sounds to me like you are looking for that Disney fantasy unicorn, when you find her let science clone her DNA, because believe me if she existed I’d have found her by now. I’m nothing if not pragmatic, and I know the mind plays tricks on us, it’s just that I have AWALTS on tap, so I can’t delude myself, sounds like you need companionship, and you’ll never get that from a woman.

Focus on creating a life you’re proud of.

Part of what pulled me out was just survival instinct.  I had to make a mental correction or things were just going to fall apart completely.

Another part, a bigger part, was just realizing that hole in my life is not fundamental. It is not real. It is a consequence of a story I have been telling myself since I was a kid. It was like a switch was flipped in my brain.

I went from feeling “unloved” to feeling “pensive”.  From “unwanted” to a little “lost”. From “invisible” to “bored”.

My emotions went from being a response to an external situation I could not control to a reflection of my inner self, which is something I can control.

I do this almost every night: make a list of things you want to do tomorrow, and make the list long enough so that you won’t have enough time to complete every task. One of the worst “feelings” is boredom.  Lots of people mistake boredom for loneliness.  The former you can control, the latter not so much – but they are one and the same. Keep busy and do things for yourself. The list should contain everything from little chores that need to be done (reorganize the closet), to making progress on a multi-day task (read the next chapter in a book), to taking up a new or old hobby (go for a bike ride). Make the list different every day until you find those things that are within reach and make you happy.

There is definitely something out there for you that will bring pure joy, and the chances of you finding it are so much higher than meeting that “perfect” woman its not even funny – one is almost guaranteed to happen and the other is just a fantasy. THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO THIS WORLD than that fairytale we’ve been telling ourselves up to this point.

We men are built for love of a woman. Breasts, ass and soft skin. God they feel wonderful …. and of course we all miss that.

I catch myself doing that stupid sigh …. wondering ‘what if’ ….. shall I pick the phone up.

Then I remember the S~~~…… all of it. All the way from period blood left on toilet seat to f~~~ing other guys to custody battle.

They are horny, young, beautiful, exquisite …. black widows.

You can have female friends or you can f~~~ women…… you can’t have both .. well you can … but one will destroy the other.

There is a huge difference between loneliness and isolation. So that’s where you start to recover.

Loneliness can be delt with by all the above suggestions.

Isolation is either forced or voluntary. The former needs positive action … and again the ‘getting out’ comments are correct.

I’m glad you’ve spoken about this ….. because it can become a silent killer …. but you’re not alone in this and the more we talk …. the better we understand.

You are very welcome to come visit the UK and spend time with us here as my guest ….. but you can’t f~~~ me ok ☺