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I am abandoning marriage and kids. People are now calling me cheap and selfish

nedlah — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 07:36:58 +0000

Guys,
I want to share with you what is becoming more and more common in my life – people telling me I am selfish for opting to live my life without kids and marriage.. Some even say that I will die alone as a lonely rich man. I try to explain to them that the reason I am saving a lot, living in a small apartment is that I want to retire early instead of being a corporate rat until I am 65, but few people are willing to accept my decision. I do have a good relationship with my parents in most ways, but sadly even they share this view..
Sometimes I believe people get mad because they are jealous that I have worked hard and thus able to live a debt free life without much stress or nagging. It makes me sad that people cannot accept me when they should be applauding the fact that I am 100% in control of my own life.

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TheBard — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:05:07 +0000

I know the feeling. For me I want to adopt a daughter since I have bad luck with women nor do I really trust one to have a kid with because I don’t want to be paying child support and having my child away from me, but I am met with similar criticism. People tell me to just go out and find a good women or keep looking. When I point out how on dating sites I barely get any messages and women in real life don’t seem to be interested in me either I am just met with “just keep looking” People don’t accept our life styles because it is new. It goes against tradition so to many that makes it wrong. Also like you said they are probably jealous. Many of those people probably only got married because they thought they had to follow societies rules and now are wishing they hadn’t. I have heard a decent amount of women in their 40’s and 50’s say they regret getting married when they were younger.

Nothing wrong with doing things different. I don’t want to have to worry about some women taking my daughter and money from me and you don’t want to have a wife or children because it doesn’t go with your life style. Let people call you whatever they want. You will be living happy while they aren’t.

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Ned Trent — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:07:27 +0000

Ever since I ended up /got stuck watching the film “Knocked up” during a TV zapping session, I’ve now completely gone off the whole idea as well and most presumably for good. Now, since I was single during most of my adult life, my left over mom seems to have mostly accepted that choice of my life, even though she doesn’t currently know yet, that I am GMOW and eventually I will have to tell her this arguably (in her eyes) “harsh” truth. But again, since my brother had been squeezed through the whole marriage and divorce mill with all of it’s ugly consequences and I do know of a few other men, in part close friends of mine who had been there, too, by now my resolve is stronger than ever not to do the same as in put myself through the same s~~~. Not even if I indeed might get rich enough some day, which is no longer even an main aspiration of mine. The only advantage that was going to bring would be that I probably could live in a bit more relaxed kind of way, but other than that, well …

Anyway the above mentioned film I guess quite accurately describes the female nature spot on, personified by the two main female characters. This is an especially scary and rude variation of a female phantasy “romantic comedy” taken one step further with regards to men and I couldn’t laugh one single time about it first time I happened to watch it, as it was both catering for women’s inane phantasies and at the same time portraying two of the most pathetic manginas imaginable as the two main male characters. After all I have only heard about the movies “Gone Girl” and/or “50 shades of grey”, albeit knowing that these are also just fictional films I shall spare myself to ever watch any of those two.

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

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Cipher Highwind — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:43:15 +0000

I have trained people to not tell me their business.

What they are presenting can be considered an offer.

I present a counter-offer that presents an obligation to them e.g.

You are cheap for not wanting to pay for children
OK, you pay for them.

You are being paranoid about divorce
I see; will you cover the costs if it is so improbable?

You will die alone…
How about you be there when I die if you are so concerned?

I GIVE UP!!! )(*&^)*&_#)W*($&_^Y

Conversation is like a game of tennis, as is negotiation. One must keep the ball in the opponent’s court: the more it is on his side, the more likely one can trip him up.

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experienced — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:45:14 +0000

“I want to share with you what is becoming more and more common in my life – people telling me I am selfish for opting to live my life without kids and marriage.” FIRST, It was the selfish financial and more, slaughtering of men by wahhmen, that led to this. To my knowledge, you aren’t required to tell anyone that you’re MGTOW. The amperage lies in the fact that wahhmen can’t find victims anymore due to the exodus. Some even say that I will die alone as a lonely rich man. Would they prefer you to die alone as a poor man? Divorced by the female in 80% of divorces, rinse and repeat til you’re on the street. I try to explain to them that the reason I am saving a lot, living in a small apartment is that I want to retire early instead of being a corporate rat until I am 65, but few people are willing to accept my decision. The only person that has to accept that decision is you. If you try to ‘explain’ the best you’ll achieve is back up to sea level, a pat on the head, and them looking forward to the next chance to make you explain yourself, each time you do, they’re training you. Ignore them and, Who cares? Guess who they’ll try to borrow money from. I do have a good relationship with my parents in most ways, but sadly even they share this view.. Your parents had the luxury of growing up through a vastly different timeframe. You’d be a fool to ignore this in your decisions. When anyone (your parents) has a kid, it’s as though a new computer section slammed into their brain. It can be pulled down by having a lousy mom, dad, or both. However, for most it’s an immediately different mindset. Before, I never heard babies crying, unless it was LOUD, after kids, you can’t not hear it. Your parents have to try to look at it from your actual reality. Your trying to look at it from their experience will help you to understand them, but will never change them.
Sometimes I believe people get mad because they are jealous that I have worked hard and thus able to live a debt free life without much stress or nagging. Apples and oranges, they’re looking at the outcome, not the cause, how convenient for them. A guy comes running out of the woods, completely out of breath, people point and say, “You’re out of shape!” Rather than looking up and seeing the sky half covered with smoke from the inferno you barely escaped, “Well, it wasn’t on fire decades ago, so I’ll assume it isn’t now, No, you’re just out of shape.” They probably think you don’t know how fulfilling it is to raise a child, and you are correctly thinking they don’t know what it’s like to successfully blow your f~~~ing brains out like ###########’s men have when stripped of their kids by a court backed witch. It makes me sad that people cannot accept me when they should be applauding the fact that I am 100% in control of my own life. You can’t allow it to ‘make’ you anything. Consider your audience. Here, you are being applauded and accepted. When a wahhman divorces you, are these same people going to say, “sorry, I was wrong, here’s several hundred thousand to help you move to where your kids are, and out of a box and into a home? From “Predatory Female,” the guys that are married have the look on their faces like a toddler who just crapped their pants….they know something’s wrong, not what = the inlaws and outlaws that tell you how to live IAW their opinion.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:57:55 +0000

TheBard wrote:

I am just met with “just keep looking” People don’t accept our life styles because it is new.

@Bard, why should you be made into some kind of villain because you refuse to bob for terds in a barrel of s~~~?

Ned Trent wrote:

I am GMOW and eventually I will have to tell her this arguably (in her eyes) “harsh” truth.

@Ned, the harsh truth is in there court, not ours, the truths are unmistakable and undeniable! Divorce rates, boys are broken girls (education system), The prison industry, legal industry, gynocentric media, a slew of man crushing laws, including the narcissistic attitude of modern women, MGTOW is not a movement, it’s an organic reaction to the suffering and discrimination against men. “Where are all the good men?” 1st off, they are better than good! 2nd, they’re using there intellect over emotion to cast off “all the bad women”. the question should be “where are all the good women”, answer: destroyed by the parasitic and false perceptions of feminism; “there are none”.

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Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:20:44 +0000

nedlah wrote:

people telling me I am selfish for opting to live my life without kids and marriage..

This people have kids and are married. What do they know about selfishness, when they decided to live the way they do? What has been before they got children and got married? Weren’t they not selfish then, or did they just marry to quieten their conscience? Most of these people are just envious. They wish that they were not married and maybe they wish that they have no kids or kids without a partner. No need to argue with them.

nedlah wrote:

I will die alone

Everyone dies alone. No one will voluntarily come with you along the last road.

nedlah wrote:

It makes me sad that people cannot accept me when they should be applauding the fact that I am 100% in control of my own life.

It will make you happy when you expect nothing.

Carpe Diem!!!

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Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:24:41 +0000

Anonymous wrote:

the question should be “where are all the good women”, answer: destroyed by the parasitic and false perceptions of feminism; “there are none”.

YES!!! Sad but true.

Carpe Diem!

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XSDBS — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:30:41 +0000

experienced wrote:

Sometimes I believe people get mad because they are jealous that I have worked hard and thus able to live a debt free life without much stress or nagging.

I agree 100%.

They don’t want to put in the work to earn it, and are envious/jealous/mad that you did.

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Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:52:22 +0000

Anonymous wrote:

It will make you happy when you expect nothing.

I was intellectually attacked by one of my relatives for saying/believing “expect nothing in return; when you receive something you value, you value that person much more”, his philosophy is to expect something in return, he’s the type to condemn people for not reading his mind, or doing his will. I no longer communicate with him. I was condemned by him, and x communicated. Nobody likes him, many people have untethered hatred for him, he calls himself a christian, and goes to church regularly. The same church the preacher man abandoned his wife and children and took another man’s wife and child; and I’m the asshole? I have no use for religion, however I do retain faith, no matter how fragmented it appears to my logic. I have questions that can not be answered by logic, I await the answers by faith…