After reading a lot of the content from this site, and other sites such as no ma’am, and even attending some PUAs seminars, I feel somewhat identified with all this and somewhat enraged on how men are abused by society.

I just find the whole dating process just too time and – most important – emotionally consuming. I’m just too busy trying to be successfull making a career and trying to acomplish my objectives, such as getting my University degree, being the best at what I do (I’m an IT consultant), try to buy a home and migrate from being an employee to be a bussinessman. I’m 29 and earn enough to believe I can success within a reasonable amount of time.

But sometimes i have those moments when I wonder whether I was too cruel or too picky, or did not do my best for the relationship. Then I remember moments shared with those girls I felt abused/friendzoned/disrespected, and just feel a sudden hate towards that former female sex partner.

I mean, i don’t come back to them, but still have the impression I did something wrong, and that really bothers me, because rationally I did not. Such as ending a relationship with a woman who does not care to please me on any form.

Last semi formal relationship I had was with this 4 years older gal, she was nice to talk to, smart, and I liked  but had zero intentions to please me, and was literally virgin when I met her (yes, at 32 yo, she was), and she really did not enjoy sex unless I masturbated her. She wouldn’t stay a night with me because she ‘didn’t like to go to her work from someone else’s howse’, so I fell somehow used by her to get out of virginity. I felt like all the burden of the relationship was mine, and she did nothing. She expected me to be her faithful dog (in fact, she liked dogs more than people), but did nothing to keep me. Now that I think about it, she might be a bit asperger.

I eventually started f~~~ing with other women, and left her.

After that, maybe the problem was me, maybe I don’t want anywone close to me. Funny thing, my therapist (she’s an old woman) says i’m ‘marriage material’. Which also makes me very-super-extra careful not to be involved with women,I just avoid them, because I know they are very good at manipulating you in many ways, and since i’m a hard worker, I really get scared that they might want to invade my life or something.

Maybe i’m just an asshole, or something like that, the fact is that every woman that get into my life, ruins my mental health and poisons me a bit more.

The question I have for you, MGYOW, is, how do you achieve forgetting those women who hurt you? Although I don’t feel guilt or remorse the moment I say ‘no’ to a woman I invested some time and effort on, I still feel remorse or guilt about the fact it didn’t work, regardless whether or not I was right to leave them from a rational point of view.

Thanks, sorry if my English is a bit rusty 🙂

The question I have for you, MGYOW, is, how do you achieve forgetting those women who hurt you?

We don’t forget. =)

Funny thing, my therapist (she’s an old woman) says i’m ‘marriage material’.

I heard that sentence too, more than once. I assume that by this they mean: “You will be a great beta provider once women gets bored riding the c~~~ carousel.” Which is not for me.

tigertank wrote:

Which also makes me very-super-extra careful not to be involved with women,I just avoid them, because I know they are very good at manipulating you in many ways, and since i’m a hard worker, I really get scared that they might want to invade my life or something.

Same here 🙂

tigertank wrote:

Maybe i’m just an asshole…

From what you are saying, no, you are not. You just realized how f~~~ed up relatioships are by yourself. It is not you that is the asshole by wanting equal exchange on a relationships. Women are c~~~s for expecting men to give everything they have and they give sex (when even that) in return, as if that made it equal.

tigertank wrote:

The question I have for you, MGYOW, is, how do you achieve forgetting those women who hurt you?

Like Re-Headed said: You don’t. This is one of my favorite quotes:

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

Santayana

So don’t forget. Don’t be consumed by it though, but don’t forget, or you will repeat the same mistakes again.

Another quote I like a lot is this one:

“Only a fool learn from his own mistakes. The wise man learn from the mistakes of others”

Otto Von Bismarck

Although I disagree with the first part (or at least, I don’t mind being a fool myself once in a while), I do try to learn from other people actions.

So stay, read, and learn. We are all fools here. And we are all wise too. 🙂

But sometimes i have those moments when I wonder whether I was too cruel or too picky, or did not do my best for the relationship. Then I remember moments shared with those girls I felt abused/friendzoned/disrespected, and just feel a sudden hate towards that former female sex partner.

I’ve been in relationships for I think 16 of the last 18 years. I dated a very wide spread of broads, and everything that is said about them on this site is true. Women use you to extract your resources, it is strictly another form of prostitution. I did the PUA thing for a bit in between and now I am much happier because I don’t even bother with them.

I keep an optimistic view about women, in that when I see one that is giving me the indicators of interest, I like to think that maybe she would be alright and I keep that thought in my mind. However, if I were to speak and get to know her, I guarantee eventually she would prove to me that she is just a c~~~ like the rest of them. So I keep it optimistic and don’t bother with them. Works for me!

Maybe i’m just an asshole, or something like that, the fact is that every woman that get into my life, ruins my mental health and poisons me a bit more.

Haha…this sums up how I feel as well.  It seems like every time you start to get to know a chick, its such a great experience, and then 3-6 months later your just like f~~~, I want that bitch out of my life.  Soon as they think they got you hooked with the V and they start to show their true colors, being single again begins to look a little more appealing every day.

Did YOU f~~~ up? MAYBE.

Did they f~~~ up? DEFINITELY.

Now sit down. I don’t mean to be horrible but this is tough love I hope you will understand and take with good grace:

F~~~ING GET OVER THIS SELF FLOGGING S~~~

Move the f~~~ on with your life. Yes learn from lessons of the past but for christs sake man, dismantle your alter to past relations~~~s.

Got the f~~~ up, get out there and f~~~ing achieve …. work, sport, house, travel and anything else you want.

Forget women …. just go succeed in everything you do.

I guarantee you will then have vag jumping on you …. but ..  remember

THEY’RE LEACHES and will bleed you dry.

Now … are we clear on this?

😆

Now sit down. I don’t mean to be horrible but this is tough love I hope you will understand and take with good grace:

F~~~ING GET OVER THIS SELF FLOGGING S~~~

Yeah, i know, I’m working on it 🙂 Just got those ‘hate flashes’ which are a nuisance, and didn’t know how to get rid of them.

Thanks

Now sit down. I don’t mean to be horrible but this is tough love I hope you will understand and take with good grace: F~~~ING GET OVER THIS SELF FLOGGING S~~~

Yeah, i know, I’m working on it Just got those ‘hate flashes’ which are a nuisance, and didn’t know how to get rid of them. Thanks

That will go my friend. It’s a natural reaction.

It will pass. Just don’t do anything dumb.