I’m twenty-one years old, and I’m, well . . . dissatisfied. Of course, of course, human condition and all that, but . . .

The male figures in my life consistently tell me that the university years are the best years of your life. I’ve asked them, and these 40-50 year-olds say that if they could stay a certain age forever, it would be 21-25.

I have one year of university left, and so far, my experience has been: meh. While it’s true I’ve loved living on my own and eating at the cafeteria, it’s not all fun and games. Not only does a mountain of stress sit on me day in and day out (and if you try to claim undergrad isn’t stressful, I’m almost certain that you weren’t in engineering), but the women are stuck-up, rude, and disrespectful c~~~s who treat me as if I were stupid. “Join a club!” people yell at me, and I’ve tried, but it’s just eaten up more of my oh-so-precious free time, time I wanted to spend on writing what I want to write, reading what I want to read, and playing what I want to play. My friends at school aren’t exactly the types to throw huge, Van Wilderesque parties. And, besides, loud noise, crowded rooms, and drinking till you don’t know what happened to you doesn’t really appeal to me all that much. But I’d like the OPTION to be there, you know?

And, apparently, these years are supposed to me the best of my life. That means life is all downhill from here. The thought of that makes me really sad. I want to experience casual sex, to know if I like it or not, but women rebuff me and rarely give me the time of day. And it’s not as if that were going to get better than now—where else but university are you constantly exposed to that big of a quantity of women who are interested in that sort of thing?

So, gentlemen, how can I make the best of my last year of university? Have I, as I’ve been incessantly told, been doing something wrong? Am I missing out on life?

Your post made me feel your pain bro.
Here’s the thing.
In my opinion, don’t let the “women not giving you attention” or acting like c~~~s. Get to you in a way which throws you off the wrong path.
Your not at an age, where you should have any reason to hate women. The world you live in now is actually one of the hardest. The people who told you these are your best years, don’t know s~~~ about current day climate.

I am a good looking guy, (I’m 35) but when I was 21-23, man it was f~~~ing tough. That time is when women all look good. And they know it. At your age I didn’t know about hypergamy etc. But basically they still treated every guy like s~~~ when I was that age as well. They basically are in the absolute PEAK of their sexual capital.

Now to the GOOD news. YOU are not at your PEAK of capital, that will come around 10 years from now, as their capital plummets faster than you can imagine, down the toilet. By then YOU will be an Engineer (My brother is a mechanical engineer, works in china, makes a F~~~ TON) so you will have $$$ respect and choices.

As much as you are still seeing value in yourself now based on whether a parasite wants you or not, I hope one day you see the intrinsic value in yourself, when you get to 30 and are pulling in 100K a year, don’t you worry, the females will suddenly pop up, and remember you.

My advice to you is this: Don’t spend too much time in the MGTOW movement, go through the PUA movement for a bit and learn how to bed women, but never forget your MGTOW teachings. Never forget the biological nature of the female and her behaviour. MAKE SURE you don’t get one pregnant, and don’t do idiot things like get married or live with one.

By the time your 30 (YOUR PEAK) , you will have money and wisdom. And women will want to try and snag you, but the world will have changed even more in your favour then.

So for right now, 1. Finish Degree 2. PUA and learn how to f~~~ chicks and keep them at a distance 3. Enjoy your youth

Just some addition:

1. I think this “these are your best years”-s~~~ comes from the life-experiences of the regular blue pill man…they marry and get a family and suddenly recognize that life was much more fun before they had a family (which was usually the time when they were in the age you are in now). So if you don’t follow this road life can be great until you die 😉

2. You let yourself be influenced by others to much…even if you go the PUA road for a while you shouldn’t give to much s~~~ on what others say, go your own way, stand for your attitude/oppinion/interests and love yourself for who you are (not physically xD). Thats why the myth “girls like assholes/nice guys finish last” came up because girls like self-confident guys and an “asshole” just cares about himself and gives a s~~~ what others say or think…which will make him an asshole in the eyes of others (usually white knights or beta males) 😉

Commit to your studies, do well, hit the gym, focus and take care of yourself. You are the most important thing in your life, everything else is secondary.

Party and PUA if you want after you are done school. Steve Jobs did a great speech for a University, I have posted it below, make sure you find what you love to do.

As a MGTOW my best years are now. 30-40 yrs is when you get enough $$$,$$$ saved up from paying off all debts that you have a lot more options. I found one of my lifetime drives is traveling to far away countries for vacation.  Or working on my muscle car. Or attending music festivals around the world. As with most activities in life: Fun = Money spent.

Once you get your degree, no one can take that away from you. Especially if your degree is within the STEM fields, since there is a void of those people available currently.

Good luck in your studies. I nearly dropped out during Freshmen/Jr year but glad I didn’t! 🙂

The male figures in my life consistently tell me that the university years are the best years of your life. I’ve asked them, and these 40-50 year-olds say that if they could stay a certain age forever, it would be 21-25.

Not true for me.  I am 47 years old.  I can tell you that I am a hell of a lot better at being a man at 47 that I was at 25.  I would only wish to be the chronological age of 25 because my back, hips, knees, and feet are wore out after a quarter of a century in the army.  I was stronger, healthier, and in far less pain.

Baz Luhrmann one wrote “Enjoy the power and beauty of your youth”.

The power and beauty of your youth is that you have the potential to succeed and be happy.  I can say that when you are my age, you will look back on a picture of yourself and “Recall in a way, you can’t grasp now, how much possibility lay before you, and how fabulous you looked”.

College years are recalled as the best years, because for many men it was the last years they were free.  Free from a wife, free from the responsibilities of fatherhood, free from their in-laws, free from having to focus your time, money, resources, and energy to solve the problems and concerns of everyone else.

As a MGHOW of 47, that has just completed his undergraduate last may, that is preparing for graduate school, I can tell you that these last few years have been the best of my life BECAUSE I am no longer encumbered by a woman and am carving my own path through life.

You are not missing out on life.  Yours is only just beginning.  With the money and resources that you can put together, your life is bright with the possibility of accomplishment, fun, adventure, travel, aspirations.

Just don’t attach a vagina to your life on a permanent basis.  If you do this then your college years will be truly the happiest, because it’s downhill from there.

I am 33 and just now I am starting to realize the potential I have

When I was 21-25 I had major insecurities issues (specially regarding women), too worried about college/work, afraid I would end up unhappy/not doing what I wanted.

The only certainty in life is that life is uncertain. It was just recently (more or less) I got confirmation of what I always suspected: that women are not the center of the universe. That’s why I don’t bother even with PUA tactics. O do things for me, and if there is a gal out there that wants to ride along, great. If not, that’s great too. But that’s just me.

So, I would say, do what you must/like for yourself. Dedicate to your dreams and learn to be flexible regarding them. And be careful around women.

And as far as it goes regarding those that keep telling you that you are missing out, tell them to f~~~ off. 🙂

This might be interesting for you to watch:

Cheers.

Male SMV is at it’s lowest possible point through those ages. Male SMV does not go up until around 28, and peaks around 32, although it will still be very high and certainly much higher until around a man’s 50s when it may finally, finally drop back to around the 18-22 SMV.

Female SMV is at its highest those ages, 18-22. It only drops from there, and collapses by 40. A 40 year old woman probably still has higher SMV than a 20 year old male though.

All men want a woman in that age bracket. However women want resources and status, which comes at older ages.

If men were getting their fill of casual sex in college, they wouldn’t be thirsty f~~~s that are desperate to get married when they are older and have money. They wouldn’t pour s~~~ tons of money into PUA seminars and camps, or learn to dance or any of that other crap.

One of the biggest reasons feminism succeeded so much is all the stupid old failure men that kept babbling about their college years (when most of them didn’t even go to college) or pretending to be James Bond. It makes me shake my head in disbelief when I hear all the BS from Boomer peers. Not all Boomers, some great ones out there that will be honest, but the ones that are babbling about easy casual sex, or making fun of kids today for having student loan debt and struggling with work are assholes. Don’t listen to them.

The real reason you want to be 21-25 is purely because of physical strength, durability, metabolism etc. As you get older, you lose energy, it gets harder to recover, you gain more weight, and it’s harder to build and keep muscle. Athletically speaking I can probably still beat out untrained younger guys, but I can also cramp up and get injured pretty easily, so I don’t really push myself. If we’re talking female attention, no question it’s best from 28-32 however.

I’ve asked them, and these 40-50 year-olds say that if they could stay a certain age forever, it would be 21-25.

So older, likely married men are wanting to go back to a time when they were younger and not married. Sounds like they yearn for freedom.

You can chose to stay free.

Edit: I’m 41 and enjoying my life better than I did when I was 21-25.