im a 28 year old male whos never been in a real relationship with a female. all my life ive had no problem having sex with them, but i never once dated one. i TRIED dating them in my early years, plenty of times in fact. i just never had luck with it for reasons that were unknown to me at the time. “i dont get it”, i thought to myself. how could i be so sweet, yet she doesnt appreciate it? so funny, but she doesnt laugh? i guess you could say i developed confidence issues in those days as well so that made me second guess myself a lot of the time also. though this turned out to be a blessing in disguise that i didnt know yet, but ill touch on that later.

during my teen years, girls always viewed me as “cute”, so i had no problem getting sex. in fact, it was such a role reversal that i was the one looking for “love” and actually turning down sex. in this backwards society we live in, it is always taught to us that “men are dogs and think about sex every 7 seconds” or some bulls~~~ like that. i can personally attest that it is the complete opposite. ive had to literally pry girls off of me when all i wanted was to spend the night with them, watch a movie, and maybe cuddle. lol, i was a teenager at the time and didnt fully grasp the whole concept of man/woman relationships yet. i was still going by what was taught to me and passed down from old traditions, whether it was from tv/music or my parents. besides, the physical act of sex was always overrated to me. ill touch on that more later.

it wasnt until i started to get a little older than i began to gradually figure it all out on my own through raw and natural experience. after getting lied to (i have some lie stories that you wouldnt believe), having my heart broken, etc. a number of times, i just started to see that something isnt right. i used to think “maybe SHE was just a liar/slut, but that doesnt mean they all are!” after a while however, i started to see similar patterns in all of them. i quickly tried to make sense of it all and thats when i began to realize that its a hard-wired, biologically embedded type of behavior. which means that ALL females are the same. its a scary thought at first but eventually when you come to accept it things get easier.

being a “cute” guy (i think im just average), you tend to have a higher rate of girls throwing themselves at you. it gets really funny/eye-opening when you find out these girls have “boyfriends” (a.k.a the guy im currently and temporarily using to improve my social status and maybe boost my amount of FB likes), and it gets REALLY funny when they dont even care that you know. ive had a girl give me a blowjob outside her boyfriends house inside my car, only to kiss him on the mouth a few minutes later. ive had a girl come over to have sex with me, only to post a pic of her engagement ring on FB a week later. she had been dating a guy for months and got engaged to him, while my dick was inside her a week earlier. when i questioned her about it her response was “lol, nothing happened between us” …the mind of the female species is quite remarkable, to say the least. if only i had saved the texts between us…

after years and years of witnessing this behavior, i began to realize that relationships are nothing but a crock of s~~~. i wondered how is it possible that its so hard for me to have a relationship, yet other people my age have been in and out of 10+ or more by this point? “what am i doing wrong?” is what i used to ask myself. thats when i realized im not doing a f~~~ing thing wrong, its everyone else whos wrong. if you want to meet a person, f~~~ him, and introduce him to all your friends within 4 or 5 days and call that a “boyfriend”, then be my guest. But i will have no part of that. its just too fake and illogical for me. i always felt a sick feeling in my stomach when some female wench would approach me acting all nice at first. i know your plan bitch. you want to “trap” me because you feel like a useless loser by being single at your age, and youre afraid that society will judge you harshly. so you will do everything in your power to trap me into a relations~~~ with you. that includes pretending to be nice, and pretending that you are interested in my interests even though you dont have a f~~~ing clue or care about them. its hilarious how they “like” you on a monday, then on a tuesday, when they trapped some other poor soul in their web, they no longer have a need for you. but thats the nature of the female. truly a deceptive and fake creature.

realizing all this, i went into seclusion and basically just gave up on the whole idea of a relations~~~, and used these females for their one and true purpose – SEX. and its amazing the amount of sex you can get when you start treating them like the pieces of flesh they are and start talking dirty to them. they LOVE that s~~~. believe me, no female on this earth wants to get coffee with you, cuddle with you, or watch a movie with you. they want you to dominate them in every way but they are just afraid to say it/initiate it because they dont want to be labeled a slut. they ARE sluts, but dont want anyone to know it. lol. Gentleman, it is not a coincidence that prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. females have been f~~~ing anything and everything since the dawn of time. after dealing with the lies and denial of “normal” girls, it gets tiring and you realize that hookers are just a way better deal in general. so much so, that it completely renders the “normal” female obsolete.

so after years of living with this mindset, a new problem emerged. i got bored of sex. sex itself is a very overrated act and once i cum, im usually figuring out the fastest way to remove myself from the presence of the female and be alone again. i dont want to be around a female after sex, theres just nothing to do or talk about. sports? they know nothing about it and even if they did, my male friends know it better. companionship? i get it unconditionally from my dog. love? doesnt exist from a female, and my dog gives it to me better. someone to hang out with? lol, and do what? play sports? go to the gym? play video games? no, no, and no. they suck at all those things are are generally useless in just about every aspect of life. once i figure out a way to quench my thirst for sex entirely, i will literally never need a reason to communicate with a female ever again. i dont want kids.

so i often think about my future and the lonely existence i will live. it depresses me on one hand, but on the other hand how bad could it really be? im a natural loner, and always have been. as long as i have my dog, my sports, my video games, my cars, and my hobbies, what more could i possibly need? i often get asked “how do you do it?” when referring to the way i live. i stay home pretty much all the time and never go out. i dont go to clubs, dont go to parties, and generally dont do much unless it involves 1 of my hobbies. im completely comfortable with myself and totally independent. i love having friends (as long as they are like-minded), but i can operate with or without them. but thats not to say that i dont want them. if they are like-minded then the more the merrier. as for living, i can cook better than any female, make my bed better, clean better, do the laundry better, etc. in fact, whenever females have done “feminine” s~~~ for me in the past, they usually f~~~ed it up, so id rather just do it myself. theyre not even good at stuff theyre supposed to be good at, lol. im OK with the fact that i will probably be alone for the rest of my life, but having a community of other men who feel the same way as me definitely helps. i wouldnt mind being that old monk dude years from now (think of pai mai from Kill Bill) teaching some of the younger generation the ways of life and passing on my knowledge lol. its good to have found a place like this where i know i will feel welcome. thanks for having me and thanks for reading my story! i have TONS of stories, knowledge, and advice that i look forward to sharing with you all, and i look forward to receiving it in return!

Welcome to MGTOW Boxing for life, enjoy the forums…..

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Thank you.

After having my fill and feeling that there must be something more, I started wanting to settle down and find a decent girl. I thought I did, but I was friend zoned instead. After being my friend for about a year on and off, she found someone else, got pregnant, and had an abortion. I found another one I thought was a good woman, but she called 911 and got me in trouble with the law. After her I had one more and it ended in disgust. The very last one came back months later saying she tested + for hepatitis C. She was infected after we broke up, I swore ” never again”, and I meant it! looking back on all the women I’ve been with, I must conclude that AWALT. Since swearing of women altogether, my life has immeasurably changed for the better. I’m very glad I awoke to the misgivings and deceit that modern women have to offer. They’re nothing more than empty shells.

I’m glad for you, some men never find out the truth about women….

Welcome to MGTOW, destination; SOLIDARITY.

76binder – I sure did figure out the secret, but the problem is that i dont want to attract them. i dont care about sex. its a boring and overrated activity to me that has become a chore. girls these days expect you to give them pornstar sex and pornstar like performances but dont want to be pornstars themselves. why should i give her amazing sex? so that she can be even MORE clingy afterwards? why would i want to make her satisfied? what does it do for me? in my experiences, even when i give girls “basic” sex, they are annoying as f~~~ afterwards. asking to hang out the next day, go grab coffee, come hang out, non-stop texts, etc.

im currently in a situation where i cant even go to the gym anymore because i had sex with a girl from there and now she follows me around like my shadow whenever im there.  I cant even get a good workout. i have to take a week or 2 off and ignore her texts for her to hopefully forget about me. unfortunately this behavior will probably only turn her on even MORE. So yes, i may have figured out the secret to sex, but its an overrated secret to know, at least for me. Id much rather know the secret to making money so that i can enjoy my hobbies, give my dog the best life, go to sporting events with friends, vacation and travel the world, etc. that is the life that i ultimately want to achieve but im in a financial rut right now hoping to get out. Sex/women are not on my list of priorities anymore and i dont think they will ever be making a comeback.

so i often think about my future and the lonely existence i will live. it depresses me on one hand, but on the other hand how bad could it really be? im a natural loner, and always have been.

You’re on the cusp of true freedom. Two things hold a man back from going it alone (in his mind). First is the stigma that comes with being a “loner”, as if it’s inherently bad for some reason. Part of this comes from the natural pressures of society to conform, and when removed from those pressures, people gravitate to non-herdmind activities. It’s a real shame when a man enjoys himself doing whatever he wants instead of being a proper plow horse with hive approved endeavors right?

Many cannot accept some people are just fine being alone. More importantly this is a key method to keep men on the plantation: the FEAR that they’ll die/be alone. It’s easy to fall into the trap with the assumption it’s bad because everyone says it is, but is that really true? I don’t think so. I can go long periods of time now without human interaction, why would I crave it near my death? I sure as hell don’t want some annoying woman yacking at me on my deathbed, and years worth of putting up with her “conversations” to keep me company to that point is more a punishment than benefit. Ever notice people cite family as a defense against loneliness, but forget friendships? (something a single person can have)

People buying into that “At least I’m not alone” mentality will be in for a harrowing wake up call later in life, and that’s assuming a woman doesn’t just take all a mans s~~~ in a divorce and leave him alone anyway. Increasingly the elderly are conveniently tucked away in nursing homes before they kick the bucket, and MAYBE get a visit from wife/kids once a month. Knowing the truth about that perpetuated fairytale frees you to enjoy life as a loner. There’s nothing to be afraid of, quite the opposite: there’s so much to enjoy once you’re not shackled with the fear that you’ll “be alone”.

people like us on this forum the forefathers of this movement.

@Box4live, the feminists of the 1960’s are the fore-mothers of feminism, they only served to spawn this “counter movement”. I don’t think they realized their granddaughters would be so carefree and wild, permissive and unrestrained.

I’m also in a financial stall, this economy is in turmoil due to the unconstrained destruction of the family, legal quagmire, political corruption, bank bailouts, and foolish banking practices, just to name a few…

Antares wrote:

People buying into that “At least I’m not alone” mentality will be in for a harrowing wake up call later in life, and that’s assuming a woman doesn’t just take all a mans s~~~ in a divorce and leave him alone anyway

I never felt more alone than I did lying next to a woman, and knowing how empty her soul was, bankrupt of any possible reciprocation I had to offer. My favorite memories in life involve being all alone in the middle of nowhere and risking my life to get there. Go figure? It’s the opposite of the herd mentality, and extremely refreshing to my own sanity and general well-being…..

No offense, but I never get tired of having sex with good looking women who enjoy the act itself, especially the ones that love to please and let you have your way with them.

That sentence reminds me of when people say money doesnt buy happiness.  That just means you dont have enough of it.   I am in no way equating sex with women to happiness, just using it as a quote.

Anyways, welcome aboard and enjoy the fruits of your labor fellow MGTOW

Wandering MGHOW wrote:

I TRIED dating them in my early years, plenty of times in fact. i just never had luck with it for reasons that were unknown to me at the time. “I dont get it”, i thought to myself. how could i be so sweet, yet she doesnt appreciate it? so funny, but she doesnt laugh? i guess you could say i developed confidence issues in those days as well so that made me second guess myself a lot of the time also.  

Girls do not want a nice guy, girls want a c~~~y jerk who treats them like s~~~ and is emotionally unavailable. Those girls you tried to date, what guys did they move onto after you? I’m guessing there were assholes huh.

ComingInHot wrote:

especially the ones that love to please and let you have your way with them.

IME pretty much every woman wants a man to take complete control in the bedroom and totally dominate them.

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Wandering MGHOW wrote:

i dont want to be around a female after sex, theres just nothing to do or talk about. sports? they know nothing about it and even if they did, my male friends know it better. companionship? i get it unconditionally from my dog. love? doesnt exist from a female, and my dog gives it to me better. someone to hang out with? lol, and do what? play sports? go to the gym? play video games? no, no, and no. they suck at all those things are are generally useless in just about every aspect of life. 

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So much truth here, the majority of girls are boring as s~~~ and the only enticing thing they have is their vagina. I actually have had the luck of having two girlfriends that actually legitimately enjoyed videogames and were good at them, it was fun but they were still AWALT.