I wondered what type of impact this would have on the impressionable young boys in that class. Growing up this type of scene would be alien to me as a schoolkid. The school seemed to be full of kids of all different ethnicities, some being Australian. And I had to despair at the way those Australian boys are being set up with the false impression that those girls are wearing those scarfs because all men are rapists and that they have to wear them so they don’t look attractive and therefore don’t get raped. I despair at how complex children’s lives are these days because of these silly scarfs, when in my day we all just went to school and you never had to think twice about why someone might be wearing some ridiculous clothing accessory. But now kids brains get poisoned with the Islamic narrative and the excuses of why such a stupid thing is seen as acceptable.

I think this is a sick and warped ideology, as that is why they wear the scarfs, I think we need to ban these scarfs, they ingrain in woman that all women can only offer is sex, and they ingrain in men that women are only to be seen as sexual objects to place upon a pedestal. These silly scarfs are setting our progressive society back another 100 years, just as we begin to move beyond the irrationality of religion.

So my question to you all is, do you feel Islam perpetuates misandry through it’s simplistic good vs bad narrative when it comes to gender roles? And do you think on this basis we need to shaft the scarf?

I’m not fussing about womens headwear, I am simply drawing attention to the philosophical argument the headwear represents, which is the good vs bad narrative used by the Islamic religion when it comes to gender stereotypes. I would like my son to grow up in a world where he doesn’t have to be raised with influences that perpetuate all men are rapists and all women are saints. Islam does perpetuate misandry, because all women and men in those societies merely see men as uncontrollable dehumanized others.

This article by a muslim man proves my point http://www.womenundersiegeproject.org/blog/entry/the-myth-of-how-the-hijab-protects-women-against-sexual-assault

I think Islam promotes this idea that men are horny unruly dogs and somehow by magic that if a woman covers her hair that he won’t desire her as much and it protects the woman. Of course if the men are rabid rapey type of dogs then the woman has to be covered from head to toe in order for the man to control himself.

Given the actual number of rapes in the Islamic world this doesn’t seem to be working.

I could go on about Islam for ages but for the purposes of this discussion which I have never thought of from this angle before I would have to agree that Islam does promote this idea of men being stupid thug like animals, however I disagree that is sees women as Good or pure as well.

This might be best understood if I tell you,  I’m a british guy whose in his mid forties and still have somewhere a pencil thin leather piano keyboard tie, I keep as a reminder, I might need to whip myself into not making that sort of mistake again, and yeah, wearing something that stupid, along with the braces and belt to hold up trousers, was something we wasted money and waist on in times we had less of both,  we all look t~~~s wearing stuff we feel was pretty cool even when there’s only one consolation,  at least by the time all us fella’s of the 80’s stopped worrying what was holding up our pants, our kids wouldn’t give a s~~~ and be wearing theirs round their arses, but with the added extra, of using their own backside to be a walking billboard to advertise the prick or c~~~ who they were paying £$ to advertise their name / brand.

Banning any of this s~~~, wont make it go away, wont make it look good and wont make any more sense than our crap clothes did,  and how we all felt so free to make those mistakes, everyone telling us not to, only made one thing more likely,  it made damn sure we’d be freely choosing to be our own idiots.

Religious clothing is not something I wear,  but whatever my own view is on what other people do wear, Its no more worth my wasting money, breath and energy arguing with than it is us arguing with a feminist.  All I’m gonna say is this,  if it ain’t doing you harm, you might as well keep quiet and p~~~ yourself laughing about it privately, cos if we start banning stuff like clothing, how delicious and tempting does that become for those who choose to mock us with their own defiance, and warped logic in the future.  We might regret making laws on what people wear when after a few million men have died trying to liberate people who wouldn’t thank them, will be likely the lucky ones, cos the rest of the worlds men in 30 years time will be wondering how we got to the point when the Feminist New World Matriachy had legally inforced us all to wear skirts as a symbol of world peace and unity, how the f~~~ did this come about,  oh yeah,  dead guys cant vote.

So in my mad mans world.  I Slam it this way.  I don’t know if head scarf’s perpetutate Miss and Dry, perhaps maybe if its raining, but why should I give a f~~~, I don’t wear one, and its always (in the UK) p~~~ing it down pretty much perpetually anyway, I still don’t wanna carry an umbrella even tho it would keep my F~~s (slang for cigarettes) dry.  I do look out for keeping my f~~ enabler (ZIPPO LIGHTER) out of sight tho, cos that cost more than my pants, and like my un-matching jacket, is at risk from matches which burn holes in pockets for my wallet to fall through.

So at then end of the day, is any of this worth riskings our lives, or wallets for, its the only thing we can call our own when liberty seemed to be the thing millions fought two world wars for us not to think twice before making it 3 times a lady.

hope this is taken in the appalling humour its written in,  its for the benefit of the ILLUMIFEMINATTI to ponder those details.  I won’t reveal my waist size either,  cos its best to leave the women something to mass-debate over, but I’m still measuring all things in inches and got nowt to feel ashamed of if my jeans collapsed round my ankles cos unlike the dollar / pound / euro, it aint my ego that’s gonna crash cos Inflation was good for me no matter how hard its getting.

Keep your brains ticking in your heads guys like your hands in your pockets,  keep thoughts and fingers to yours and your trusted selves and it wont be us making a mockery of ourselves as we point the accusing finger at the wrong enemy.  Not this time!

I Don’t tell anyone what to think, I just think!

I was doing a grocery run yesterday and saw a Muslim woman walking towards the checkout line.  She was wearing a black Hijab (headscarf), a black full sleeve blouse, and a full length absolutely flowing bright red skirt. The red skirt had hundreds of perfect vertical folds that wrapped around her like a folding paper fan.

I’m being honest here – my jaw dropped.  She carried herself with grace and confidence, and the outfit was totally feminine yet modest. She easily had more class than every other woman I saw that day, hands down.

It was just a moment, but I thought I’d just pass along how it struck me. I don’t know much about Muslim culture, and in that instant I didn’t wonder how religious thinking might motivate her to dress that way.  There was just something about that particular experience that left me with a feeling of dignified respect for that woman.

Women is Islam are not equal to men. Both genders are asked to live in this world like it is a jungle and strong will kill the weak. Hijab is for both, men and women. Men’s Hijab is to try and not to Ogle over a women and women’s Hijab is to show respect and dignity for themselves. The most rational reasons for Hijab are thus:

– People take another human based on words and not appearance, especially as being men seeing a beautiful women can send a non-MGTOW man on overdrive. (Difficult to achieve but not impossible)

– Women to cover so that they can go about without feeling the center of attention (which might not be the aim for some women.)

There is no discussion in detail if a women should cover everything. I never saw that and grew up around traditional clothing women wear and in most cases not even have their hair covered.

Like I said I can write whole lot more but for now this should suffice. Although if someone wants to ask something, go ahead.

I was actually thinking about starting a topic due to an experience I had yesterday, though with a slightly different title I was doing a grocery run yesterday and saw a Muslim woman walking towards the checkout line. She was wearing a black Hijab (headscarf), a black full sleeve blouse, and a full length absolutely flowing bright red skirt. The red skirt had hundreds of perfect vertical folds that wrapped around her like a folding paper fan. I’m being honest here – my jaw dropped. She carried herself with grace and confidence, and the outfit was totally feminine yet modest. She easily had more class than every other woman I saw that day, hands down. It was just a moment, but I thought I’d just pass along how it struck me. I don’t know much about Muslim culture, and in that instant I didn’t wonder how religious thinking might motivate her to dress that way. There was just something about that particular experience that left me with a feeling of dignified respect for that woman.

olderwiser wrote:

I can talk about in detail and probably write a short essay on for the cultural / religious / political reasons behind the concept of Hijab. I grew up in a religious family but was constantly told to never just listen to what is told or blindly accept what you read. There are tons of misinterpretations of Quran and if you get it from the wrong source you will spend the rest of your life living on someone else’s (correct or false) interpretation of it. The other way is to use your rational brain and look for answers yourself. Having said that only looking at Quran is like just reading Shakespeare but not understanding the cultural / political / social aspect of his time, you will end up with a very shallow interpretation. Women is Islam are not equal to men. Both genders are asked to live in this world like it is a jungle and strong will kill the weak. Hijab is for both, men and women. Men’s Hijab is to try and not to Ogle over a women and women’s Hijab is to show respect and dignity for themselves. The most rational reasons for Hijab are thus: – People take another human based on words and not appearance, especially as being men seeing a beautiful women can send a non-MGTOW man on overdrive. (Difficult to achieve but not impossible) – Women to cover so that they can go about without feeling the center of attention (which might not be the aim for some women.) There is no discussion in detail if a women should cover everything. I never saw that and grew up around traditional clothing women wear and in most cases not even have their hair covered. Like I said I can write whole lot more but for now this should suffice. Although if someone wants to ask something, go ahead.

Did you guys not read my OP or something? Are you insane or something? Your both perpetuating the exact same stereotypes about men and women that I outlined in my original post…and I going crazy or is this place starting to sound like it has a white knight blue pill problem.

Did you guys not read my OP or something? Are you insane or something? Your both perpetuating the exact same stereotypes about men and women that I outlined in my original post…and I going crazy or is this place starting to sound like it has a white knight blue pill problem.

Invisible I know exactly what your saying. Does forcing a female to be covered up imply men are so sex driven that lacking a hijab can drive men crazy?
Thus it reflects badly on men and your boy will grow to think men can’t control themselves.

Did I get the question right?

I am just sick and tired of misandry, in all it’s forms. But hey if men don’t want to help themselves then I am not going to waste my life and time trying to make them see sense. Let the white knights, blue pills and SJW’s continue on the war path, I couldn’t care less. I give up.

15 of the Hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia

I personally like some of Islams traditions as they are in fact shared by Christians who have chosen not to follow some of the traditions in the old testament.

One I like was how if a woman’s husband died she was to marry the next closest relative – willing to take her in.  That is in place so the man’s sons and daughters are raised by a man who usually knew their father.  Since wars were rampant and still are – this keeps something somewhat resembling a patriarchy even with the high death rate in some eras or regions.

Anyway, I don’t condone anyone on here to convert.  I don’t condone a lot of the BS in Islam.