MGTOWDefining Domestic Violence – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 02:45:18 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/page/211/#post-95649 <![CDATA[Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/page/211/#post-95649 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 07:55:00 +0000 Mover1799 Basically I got convicted of DV Malicious mischief 3 for breaking a chair because I found out my wife was having a affair while back and as a result I have to do these DV classes for a year.  In my class today the “teacher” was basically telling us that domestic violence is all the same level even if it is verbal or physical, so since I gotta do this s~~~ for a year I might as well pick their brains as much as I can and I ask how it is the same?  She looked at me like I had a dick on my head and I said I think there is a pretty big difference between hitting someone and verbally abusing, regardless they are both bad I understand that.  Then I explained that relating to my circumstance I did not believe my crime was equal to my punishment, even though I admit what I did was wrong, but then explained that her having an affair was a form of abuse, so why did she not get held accountable?  Domestic Violence laws are getting pretty ridiculous, there is a BIG different between having a pattern of domestic violence and one spontaneous moment that was minor and no one got hurt.  I dunno the rest of the DV guys explained to me that they understand, but I should just keep quiet because there is no point fighting the system and I agree with them.

 

Thoughts?

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95653 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95653 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:14:13 +0000 Phantom As one who has been through this s~~~, I can totally understand where you are coming from, and what you are saying. This is only my opinion, and I am not an attorney, nor am I advising you in any legal capacity…

However, seeing that I have experience, I thought I would throw my 2 cents into the pot as it were.

I tried to reason, and explain, and defend myself in DV classes. This is what I found out the hard way…it was a one sided losing proposition, just like at court, before being sentenced to DV classes for a yr, just like it was when the police came out to my residence and arrested me, just like my 2 divorces & child support, etc.

As you have no doubt already deduced, there is a pattern here, and it’s f~~~ed six ways from Sunday.
I had to swallow all of it, and put on my yes ma’am face. Yeah, I know, I even had a female probation officer, as well as female judge, and female court defender, etc.

It is a damn shame and a total bloody mess, and it sucks and defies logic & reason.
In short, you may want to rethink your strategy on how to do your time for a yr in DV class.

The more I “bucked” the system, the more they threw it in my face on how much of a controlling & manipulating asshole I was, in more words or less.

Unfortunately, it only got better for me, once I decided to tell them everything the “teacher” wanted to here.
So, I put my f~~~in’ “dunce hat” on and played the damned rigged game.

Talk about being emotionally compromised as well as being screwed.
It beyond sucks, I hate to say.

Hope you find it helpful…

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95655 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95655 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:16:22 +0000 Mover1799 Yeah, some of the “veteran” classmates were basically helping me from digging my grave and I caught on pretty fast.

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95656 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95656 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:20:24 +0000 Phantom Glad to hear that…just ride out the damn s~~~ storm is about your best bet.

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95657 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95657 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:21:04 +0000 RoyDal
Mover1799 wrote:

I dunno the rest of the DV guys explained to me that they understand, but I should just keep quiet because there is no point fighting the system and I agree with them.

Phantom wrote:

I tried to reason, and explain, and defend myself in DV classes. This is what I found out the hard way…it was a one sided losing proposition …

These are the lessons I took away from a different context — but only slightly different. Back in my corporate drone days, we had to go to “equal opportunity” classes. The instructors set things up so that someone would say, “Hey! That’s not fair!” or something of the sort. It was all a setup for their next tirade.

The substance of the tirade? “It is all some man’s fault! You are a man! It’s all your fault!”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95659 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95659 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:29:01 +0000 Bestoftherest In your situation you need to get along to move along. Your story sucks and you make valid points. Got to move on and find something that will let you adapt, doesn’t mean you need to change but you need a mechanism to deal with those classes. Like mgtowage said, put on the dunce cap and nod your head.

Funny how she couldn’t make a connection between your action being abuse and a spouse cheating.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95662 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95662 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:30:37 +0000 Phantom
Bestoftherest wrote:

Funny how she couldn’t make a connection between your action being abuse and a spouse cheating.

yeah, no s~~~ on that.

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95663 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95663 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:33:10 +0000 Mover1799 Right, the main teacher is suppose to be male and it seems the guys support him, but we had a female sub and from my personal perspective the guys kinda kept quite, which is why I caught on quick.

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95666 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95666 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:38:34 +0000 Bestoftherest
Mover1799 wrote:

Right, the main teacher is suppose to be male and it seems the guys support him, but we had a female sub and from my personal perspective the guys kinda kept quite, which is why I caught on quick.

Yeah men can’t speak freely with woman around, especially females talking about DV. A man will let you vent a female wants to vent to you.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95667 <![CDATA[Reply To: Defining Domestic Violence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/defining-domestic-violence/#post-95667 Fri, 07 Aug 2015 08:40:20 +0000 Phantom yeah, and after every class, I just wanted to go have a damn drink or two…but hell no, couldn’t drink either.

Was hell, to say the least.

I just kept reminding myself, this too shall pass.

RoyDal wrote:

The substance of the tirade? “It is all some man’s fault! You are a man! It’s all your fault!”

and when that s~~~ is hitting you harder at times (some of the classes p~~~ed me off to no end), go do something that you really enjoy to help cope with it.

porn, gaming, reading, whatever the f~~~ it is…

Just.Go.Do.It.

It helps

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