She then went on to say “I’ve always liked chivalry. However, I don’t want you to do anything for me because you think I expect it. I want you to do something for me because you want too…if that makes sense.”

I then replied with, “chivalry extends from the notion that the fairer sex is the weaker sex and deserves special treatment as a result. I like it if you like it. Let me know if you change your mind.”

She texts back, “Yes, however, it makes me feel special, and I like feeling special, even though that’s where it originated.”

My question being, is she basically saying she wants all the benefits of chivalry and accepts the archaic notion that shes the weaker sex. (…. suure..)

Or does she just like to enjoy the special treatment, but doesn’t care that it originates out of inequality and shes just OK with it?

More importantly, does this chivalrous approach net me any extra bonuses over the feminists equality train ? And did she just hop on the gravy train and deny it’s origin?

Did I just **** myself? Thanks =) Also, first post on this site. New member. Dodged a bullet in 2012.

My question being, is she basically saying she wants all the benefits of chivalry and accepts the archaic notion that shes the weaker sex. (…. suure..)

Believe me, that’s just what they say to get free s~~~, as soon as there’s anything to gain from it, women like to be “weak” or “victims”.

Personally I will ALWAYS by default stick with the 50/50 approach, bitches wanted equality, they’ll get it. If they “like the traditional approach”, well I’ll like the traditional approach too, and tell them to stfu, suck my dick and make me a sandwich, since they like it old school.

Absolutely f~~~ing nothing…if you’re a MAN.

Women can really benefit from chivalry. They get their meals paid for, their asses kissed, their every want and need in life generally paid for, and getting to act like a bitch in public when there are a thousand white knighting manginas close by to “defend her honor” if any man she bitches at and tries to hit decides to defend himself.

And all the while, women get to claim how strong and independent they are…while STILL demanding that men give them the normal traditional style of chivalry.

Equality and chivalry cannot exist under the same roof.

Being chivalrous if you’re a man means that you have less money in your bank account, you’re constantly on call to make a bitch happy, you always have to run around to open doors for them, even if they don’t even like it, but it’s still expected.

She replies, “Oh don’t worry. There definitely will be effort on my part as well.”

To which I ask, “Do tell?”

and I get, “Nope. It’s up for your own discovery.”

At this point it’s thick with BS.

I send back, “Upon reading, “it’s up for your own discovery” I think it best we stick with the equality approach.

She replies, “That isn’t what we agreed to a moment ago.”

I return, “Yes but I don’t like “it’s up for your own discovery.” Lets just be equals.”

She was going to run with that chivalrous check to the bank I suppose.

And as a man, when I’m accused of something, I think about what that something is before running my mouth. Since a woman accused me of being it, I chose to define “chivalry” in terms that a woman could understand.

The only reason I held the door open for this woman, is because I thought she was going to walk right into it and give herself a big nasty bump on the head… and we can’t have that.

I don’t like bruised peaches either – and that’s not “chivalry”.

Women don’t seem to be able to open anything correctly without a man’s help.
A jam jar ….. a conversation ….. potato chips…… nail polish…… their legs.

So why would a DOOR be any different??

So ladies, please don’t call me chilvarous just because I don’t like a woman to hurt herself. Persistence, alcohol, and making sure your woman isn’t banging into any doors has worked since the beginning of time.

“CHIVARLY” —>> is when some poor shmuck has to put on his suit of armor and make sure his slutty girlfriend isn’t whoring herself out for more male attention on Match.com / Tinder / F~~~book / or any other dating websites.

Shes okay with it as long as I still view her as special. (Told her I did. Shes actually a nice lady, but just another lady.)

I honestly don’t care if shes okay with it or not because equal is equal.

Also,  been giving her the D religiously to where shes drowning the sheets, that seems to temporarily cloud her judgement. Just like all the other girls until you get into month 6 or 8.

Shes okay with it as long as I still view her as special.

OK I wasn’t going to be rude spell it out but now I am forced to.
STOP. TREATING. WOMEN. LIKE. THIS.

Guys who extend women unearned courtesy worship and adoration JUST because they are female have a f~~~ing screw loose. I don’t even blame women anymore for being all f~~~ed up about chivalry. I blame the f~~~ing men who perpetuate this s~~~. Wanna know what I tell a woman who wants to be treated special???

“Honey…. if you want to be treated special… you’re going to have to BE special.
Get busy, or shut the f~~~ up.”

That’s the gist of it.

It’s not up to YOU to just automatically think of women as “special”.
It’ up to HER to make the effort it show that she IS.

That’s what “equality” means. It means NOT special.

“I’ve always liked chivalry. However, I don’t want you to do anything for me because you think I expect it. I want you to do something for me because you want too…if that makes sense.”

Of course you do. Who the f~~~ wouldn’t like it?? I get to take off my jacket and lay it down over a puddle so that you can scamper over it to save your shoes? YAY. What’s for you not to like? I lower myself to gutter-licking lows so that you can feel superior for no goddam reason. And not only do you want me to do that s~~~ because YOU like it… you want me to lower myself because I like it.

See how f~~~ed up that is????

GREAT for her. BAD for you.

And the worst of it is, the more chivalry you extend to women…..
the LESS she will respect and be willing to f~~~ you.

STOP IT
http://www.mgtow.com/audio/how-to-treat-women/

STOP IT NOW
http://www.mgtow.com/audio/do-not-worship-women/

OK I wasn’t going to be rude spell it out but now I am forced to. STOP. TREATING. WOMEN. LIKE. THIS.

I’m not sure but I think she was referring to being my GF, not being a special GF among many non-existent GFs. However, I can certainly see where you’re coming from, tis a fine point.

For the record, I don’t elevate women I date to deity status because historically it ends in friend zone. I learned that in my early twenties. Thanks for the advice, any further advice is welcomed.

After living with my fiance (different woman) in Texas for a few years, I began to see all my earnings were going towards HER new car note, HER student loan bills, HER credit card bills from before we met, HER dog maintenance, HER ideal dates, HER alcohol wino habit, HER current student tuition fees.

She had it all in place to run me into the ground like a dog, and pick up and move on her merry way as soon as she graduated. She nitpicked over the tiniest things, like the thermostat being flipped from heat to AC etc. She would cook huge messy meals that would have me doing dishes for over an hour every night, and INSIST that I stand with her in the kitchen to cook and “be with her” even though my job requires me to stand on my feet while she sits her fatass in a chair all day.

This led to me standing for 12+hrs a day then I’d be giving HER the footrubs.  I decided to get the hell out of there, to this day my married friends and family members will give me knucklebumps in private for dodging the marriage bullet, they even tell me to this day to never EVER EVER get married.

Chivalry as just being nice, for being nice to any person, as long it doesn’t cost you anything, sure do it, the second a cost on your side is calculated, reconsider the person in question.

Being a Joker is far more enjoyable though.

yeah… you can guess what happened from there…

However, for the record, if there was a way to trade chivalry for a woman like that (and some sort of guarantee that she wouldn’t turn into the women we have now), I would probably see it as a reasonable trade: I meet her needs, she meets mine. I’m just not gullible enough to believe that any woman available to me today would hold up her end of that trade.