MGTOWCan someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?! – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:12:40 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/page/409/#post-31969 <![CDATA[Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/page/409/#post-31969 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 21:05:20 +0000 TYE I have seen an increase in people attempting to corrupt the MGTOW movement, or perhaps blur the lines between MGTOW, and feminism. Can someone be a racist, or married MGTOW… now personally I think these are two things it’s impossible to be if you’re MGTOW. What are your personal opinions on this my fellow MGTOW’s?!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31977 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31977 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 21:29:33 +0000 Smitty the Great One It is conceivable to combine any two… ideas. whether they can co-exist together is a different story.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31982 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31982 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 21:53:27 +0000 #1, if you’re going your own way, how can you achieve this while being leashed to the government via governmental matrimony, you’re in a contract to go “their way”!

Racists can be MGTOW, but when they have a running with their nemesis they’ll be racists fighting racist MGTOW.

I don’t think they’ll last very long as racists, they’ll together become sexists, and eventually friends in a much greater cause….

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31999 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-31999 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 23:15:57 +0000 CPT Obvious I don’t feel it is necessary to strictly define who can and cannot be a MGTOW.  I don’t give a flying fart if someone is religious, married, their ethnic background, employment status, political affiliation, a man-whore or celibate.

I do acknowledge that there are cases where being a MGTOW would be incompatible, e.g. a feminist MGTOW.

In defining MGTOW in his “Four Levels”, The Observer Watches states:

There lies one unifying idea that defines a MGTOW:

The recognition of the way modern society really works when it comes to the sexes, and a refusal to buy into and feed the system.

Pretty vague, but it works for me because MGTOW is a concept that becomes self-evident to each person in their own way.  Basically through red pill observation and experience, a person realizes that men are getting a raw deal — that the system is obviously rigged against them.

How much and in what ways they are willing to withdraw from the system is why the idea of MGTOW levels was put forth.

So I do not agree that being married automatically disqualifies you from being a MGTOW.  I have seen many members here who are married.  The reason?  Because a lot of them were blue-pilling, got married, then realized marriage is a scam.  However, they also understand the extreme consequences of getting divorced.  It literally can destroy a man emotionally, financially and physically.

Consider this: The National Institute for Healthcare Research found that divorcees are three-times more likely to commit suicide and that divorce is “the number one factor linked with suicide rates in major U.S. cities”.

These people might embrace MGTOW ideas (level 0) but aren’t willing or able to sever the ball and chain due to the consequences.  Should we exclude these people from our ranks?  Others might be relatively happy in their marriage, but they have seen enough to empathize with MGTOW.

Same goes for being a racist.  Everyone is a racist to some degree.  I found that people who proclaim loudly they are not racist are usually the most so.  We all have stereotypes and prejudices.   Acknowledging this reality is the first step to becoming less racist.

Where there would be a problem is if someone tries to assert that only a certain race can be an MGTOW or certain races should be excluded.

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32005 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32005 Wed, 18 Mar 2015 23:46:49 +0000 Vector Viking I think a married man can want to be a MGHOW, but being in a contractual relationship will prevent him from walking the walk.

I sat here and thought about the question of racism for about ten minutes after I wrote the last sentence. I just don’t see how someone could reconcile racist ideals with truly having taken the red pill. From a scientific point of view, there are no sub-species of Homo Sapiens sapiens. That’s being purely rational and not including cultural conditioning on the subject of race.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32046 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32046 Thu, 19 Mar 2015 02:51:47 +0000 Rennie Of course they can be “racist” and go their own way, they are deciding to do and believe what they choose to. Which is the essence of MGTOW.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32047 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32047 Thu, 19 Mar 2015 03:00:42 +0000 Zuberi Tau Racism serves no purpose in the mgtow movement and is a fruitless endeavor.

You don’t have to be a certain skin color to go your own way.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32123 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32123 Thu, 19 Mar 2015 06:42:39 +0000 JollyMisanthrope It seems racism is a term that has so many different connotations these days that it needs clarification before anything can be decided upon.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32139 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32139 Thu, 19 Mar 2015 07:50:28 +0000 Keymaster

It seems racism is a term that has so many different connotations these days that it needs clarification before anything can be decided upon.

Right! What constitutes “racism” these days is very akin to what constitutes “sexism”.

You can’t even type the word “negro” on Yahoo because that’s considered “racist” and it looks like this: *****

…. but you CAN give money to “The United Negro College Fund”.

Either the word is “racist” or it’s NOT.
But just like those who cry “sexism”, it’s not “sexist” as long as they are enjoying benefits.

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Racism is very unbecoming of MGTOW and even “MGTOW” itself began forming its roots in the black community. Sub-cultures often do. The very concept of “GAME” (male vs male competition for access to females) also came from there.

But can you be married and MGTOW? Well, everybody knows the answer to that. Sharing your life with your beloved wife is not called “going your own way”. It’s in the vows. I can’t even believe it was ever a question.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32187 <![CDATA[Reply To: Can someone be a racist,or married MGTOW?!]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/can-someone-be-a-racistor-married-mgtow/#post-32187 Thu, 19 Mar 2015 12:44:00 +0000 Dakota A Man who is NOT a racist looks at another Man and says, “He hasn’t achieved my level of consciousness yet.”
A Man who IS a racist looks at another Man and says, “He hasn’t achieved my level of consciousness yet.”

A Man who is NOT married looks at a Man who is and says, “How can you be going your own way when you’re married?”
A Man who IS married looks at a Man who isn’t and says, “How can you not understand that the government has a gun to my head?”

A Man who thinks and does what another Man tells Him to think and do could never be MGTOW.

 

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