1. I always get butthurt, how can I avoid this? I remain majorly butthurt for a few minutes, and minorly for a few hours.

2. Is turning it into a joke, becoming sweet and apologizing the best way to manipulate her to get her to stop and let her guard down?

3. Often this is done to make you comply with something or develop a certain mindset. How can I stop myself from getting manipulated?

4. What can I do to save my self esteem?

1. I always get butthurt, how can I avoid this? I remain majorly butthurt for a few minutes, and minorly for a few hours.

Stop caring what women say, think, or do.  Most of her bitchiness is trying to get her self centered opinion to matter to you.  Why should it matter at all?  Ask yourself what does she actually do for you that you need bother giving a damn about anything from her.  Chances are she doesn’t.

2. Is turning it into a joke, becoming sweet and apologizing the best way to manipulate her to get her to stop and let her guard down?

No.  It will only encourage her to be worse in the future.  I recommend interrupting her mid-bitch, asking her: “Do you have anything useful to contribute here?  If not, then you’re done.”  Then walk away.  Don’t look back.

3. Often this is done to make you comply with something or develop a certain mindset. How can I stop myself from getting manipulated?

Constantly ask yourself what’s in it for you.  For real.  Vague promises and coquettish hints don’t count.  I mean what actual, real world benefits are you definitely going to get from spending your time even listening to her versus what the potential liabilities are.  If you can’t think of anything, see #2 above and walk away.

4. What can I do to save my self esteem?

See #1 above and stop giving a damn.

Women are often really insulting, especially in private and online. Condescending, degrading, mocking, dismissing, trolling in general, patronizing, attacking your character, shaming, ad hominem… sometimes they even pretend to care or say something in a light heart when you know that they really want to hurt you or put you down. Bitchiness is also done by non verbal communication such as eye rolls, intentionally delaying something by pretending to be confused, making a certain expression, “the look”, looking or turning away when you’re talking to her etc. 1. I always get butthurt, how can I avoid this? I remain majorly butthurt for a few minutes, and minorly for a few hours. 2. Is turning it into a joke, becoming sweet and apologizing the best way to manipulate her to get her to stop and let her guard down? 3. Often this is done to make you comply with something or develop a certain mindset. How can I stop myself from getting manipulated? 4. What can I do to save my self esteem?

29304 do I ever feel your pain!  The great things about men’s forums such as this one is that men like us learn we are not alone from the female abuse! It’s a regular occurrence! I too am a victim of the female abuse system! The indifference of who I am, and false accusations of laziness is numbing! In addition to my own abuse from women, I have seen countless men go through their own form of torture. It seems you just can’t win. What I have learned from other men is we have to feel good about who and what we are WITHOUT THE NEED OF FEMALE APPROVAL.  I wish you the best. Thanks or your great post. It’s nice to know someone else is going through the same BS I am.

RedPillDETOX wrote:

1. I always get butthurt, how can I avoid this? I remain majorly butthurt for a few minutes, and minorly for a few hours.

Stop caring what women say, think, or do. Most of her bitchiness is trying to get her self centered opinion to matter to you. Why should it matter at all? Ask yourself what does she actually do <em class=”d4pbbc-italic”>for you that you need bother giving a damn about anything from her. Chances are she doesn’t.

2. Is turning it into a joke, becoming sweet and apologizing the best way to manipulate her to get her to stop and let her guard down?

No. It will only encourage her to be worse in the future. I recommend interrupting her mid-bitch, asking her: “Do you have anything useful to contribute here? If not, then you’re done.” Then walk away. Don’t look back.

3. Often this is done to make you comply with something or develop a certain mindset. How can I stop myself from getting manipulated?

Constantly ask yourself what’s in it for you. For real. Vague promises and coquettish hints don’t count. I mean what actual, real world benefits are you definitely going to get from spending your time even listening to her versus what the potential liabilities are. If you can’t think of anything, see #2 above and walk away.

4. What can I do to save my self esteem?

See #1 above and stop giving a damn.

Thank you for your reply! Yes, she doesn’t give a damn about me, which is why she’s causing me all that pain or trying to do so anyway.

I guess I’m not dominant and a bit submissive because I was trained by my mom to be “nice”. Now I can’t seem to win an argument in a world where the person who is most assertive and confident wins. I have always been told to save the emotions of others and be considerate….. thus I allow people to walk all over me. And women do this a lot verbally, I don’t know what is it about them. They’re kinda sick.

But I have seen that many guys (I guess the alpha males) do not get butthurt and can handle bitch behavior very well. It’s probably because they are apex predators/the fittest and thus are always made out to be the bad guys by women, but in reality they just have an excellent way to live in this world. I just need to be more dominant, assertive and confident.

Any tips?

29304 do I ever feel your pain! The great things about men’s forums such as this one is that men like us learn we are not alone from the female abuse! It’s a regular occurrence! I too am a victim of the female abuse system! The indifference of who I am, and false accusations of laziness is numbing! In addition to my own abuse from women, I have seen countless men go through their own form of torture. It seems you just can’t win. What I have learned from other men is we have to feel good about who and what we are WITHOUT THE NEED OF FEMALE APPROVAL. I wish you the best. Thanks or your great post. It’s nice to know someone else is going through the same BS I am.

Do we call each other by our numbers on this forum? That’s very strange. I have seen many men handle bitch behavior very well, it’s not that we can’t win. It’s just that we have to learn how to cope with it, how to counter it and how to beat them. Masculine men and men in second/third world countries seem to be excellent at it. It’s just us who were raised to be nice and are now paying for it.

Thank you for your reply! Yes, she doesn’t give a damn about me, which is why she’s causing me all that pain or trying to do so anyway.

So stop giving a damn about her.  You will probably notice that as soon as you stop caring about her, she will start caring about you.  But continue not giving a damn regardless.

I guess I’m not dominant and a bit submissive because I was trained by my mom to be “nice”.

It’s not a matter of being dominant or submissive.  It’s about not wasting any more concern or time on things that were never worth caring about in the first place.  It’s about you controlling your own life, not about controlling hers (being dominant), and it sure as f~~~ isn’t about letting her control your life (being submissive).

Also there’s a huge difference between being “nice” and being a doormat.  It’s entirely possibly (and entertaining)  to nicely and politely tell a woman to go f~~~ herself.

Now I can’t seem to win an argument in a world where the person who is most assertive and confident wins.

You can’t “win” an argument with a woman because women don’t really argue.  Arguments involve the conflict of differing positions based on facts and reason.  Do you think she even knows what those words mean?  Her goal is never to arrive at some truth, but to get you to do for her what she wants you to do.  And she won’t stop until she gets that so long as you continue to engage her.  Don’t fall for it.

The way to win an “argument” with a woman is by walking away.

I have always been told to save the emotions of others and be considerate….. thus I allow people to walk all over me.

People should be responsible for their own emotions.  How they “feel” is not your problem.  If they can’t control their own emotions, well then they aren’t very mature, are they?  And immature people are not worth your time.

And women do this a lot verbally, I don’t know what is it about them. They’re kinda sick.

They do it because it gets them what they want.  That’s the only reason.  So stop giving them what they want and they will stop doing it.

But I have seen that many guys (I guess the alpha males) do not get butthurt and can handle bitch behavior very well. It’s probably because they are apex predators/the fittest and thus are always made out to be the bad guys by women, but in reality they just have an excellent way to live in this world. I just need to be more dominant, assertive and confident. Any tips?

It’s actually because they understand that putting up with female bitchiness is never worth it, and so they simply don’t care.  Oh, and they are called “bad boys” by women because women aren’t getting what they want out of them.  Because to a woman’s thinking, not giving a woman whatever she wants is “bad”, but notice how women are also attracted to “bad boys” at the same time.  Go figure.

RedPillDETOX wrote:

Thank you for your reply! Yes, she doesn’t give a damn about me, which is why she’s causing me all that pain or trying to do so anyway.

So stop giving a damn about her. You will probably notice that as soon as you stop caring about her, she will start caring about you. But continue not giving a damn regardless.

I guess I’m not dominant and a bit submissive because I was trained by my mom to be “nice”.

It’s not a matter of being dominant or submissive. It’s about not wasting any more concern or time on things that were never worth caring about in the first place. It’s about you controlling your own life, not about controlling hers (being dominant), and it sure as f~~~ isn’t about letting her control your life (being submissive). Also there’s a huge difference between being “nice” and being a doormat. It’s entirely possibly (and entertaining) to nicely and politely tell a woman to go f~~~ herself.

Now I can’t seem to win an argument in a world where the person who is most assertive and confident wins.

You can’t “win” an argument with a woman because women don’t really argue. Arguments involve the conflict of differing positions based on facts and reason. Do you think she even knows what those words mean? Her goal is never to arrive at some truth, but to get you to do for her what she wants you to do. And she won’t stop until she gets that so long as you continue to engage her. Don’t fall for it. The way to win an “argument” with a woman is by walking away.

I have always been told to save the emotions of others and be considerate….. thus I allow people to walk all over me.

People should be responsible for their own emotions. How they “feel” is not your problem. If they can’t control their own emotions, well then they aren’t very mature, are they? And immature people are not worth your time.

And women do this a lot verbally, I don’t know what is it about them. They’re kinda sick.

They do it because it gets them what they want. That’s the only reason. So stop giving them what they want and they will stop doing it.

But I have seen that many guys (I guess the alpha males) do not get butthurt and can handle bitch behavior very well. It’s probably because they are apex predators/the fittest and thus are always made out to be the bad guys by women, but in reality they just have an excellent way to live in this world. I just need to be more dominant, assertive and confident. Any tips?

It’s actually because they understand that putting up with female bitchiness is never worth it, and so they simply don’t care. Oh, and they are called “bad boys” by women because women aren’t getting what they want out of them. Because to a woman’s thinking, not giving a woman whatever she wants is “bad”, but notice how women are also attracted to “bad boys” at the same time. Go figure.

Again, thanks for your detailed and informative response! Now that I think about it, I hardly give a damn about her or how she feels…. unless she feels pity of course!!! The main thing I want to do is to make her feel bad. Yes, I want to hurt her so that she knows what it feels like and stops. But how do I do that?

I think you’re very wrong about the dominant bit. There is a very real phenomenon of dominating a conversation, I’m sure you’ve noticed. All the behaviours you describe are of being dominant. Dominants are in control, submissives give up control.

As far as getting what they want is concerned, if causing anxiety is what they want, then they get it. I want to turn the tables! So bad… I’m itching!! I guess this is what causes me to be butthurt. That I can’t hurt her as much as she can hurt me. F~~~!

Is there any way I can verbally attack her or even non-verbally bully her? Just once, so that she doesn’t f~~~ with me again!

The main thing I want to do is to make her feel bad. Yes, I want to hurt her so that she knows what it feels like and stops. But how do I do that?

You don’t.

Wanting to hurt her only means you still want something from her.  It shows she still has a hold on you.  She’s still controlling your desires.  Is that really where you want to be?  Stop wanting ANYTHING from her, even her suffering.

I think you’re very wrong about the dominant bit. There is a very real phenomenon of dominating a conversation, I’m sure you’ve noticed.

Nope.  It’s not about dominating anything.  It’s about freedom.  It’s not about controlling her or controlling a conversation.  It’s about self control.  Self determination.  Is self control somehow domination, considering all you’re “dominating” is yourself?  I don’t think so.  The whole idea of “self domination” is ridiculous.

That you’re worried about “domination a conversation” with her means you are still bothering conversing with her at all.  Why would you still be conversing with this bitch?  Walk away.

I want to turn the tables! So bad… I’m itching!!

Why worry about “turning the table”?  It’s not like there’s anything on the table for you at either end.  She certainly hasn’t brought anything to that table.   Don’t turn the table.  Stand up and walk away from the table entirely.  She can have the goddamn table for all the good it will do her.

Is there any way I can verbally attack her or even non-verbally bully her?

Not in any way that doesn’t validate her in some way.  Attacking her lets her know that she still matters to you, and that means she still controls your life, not you.  Why would you give her that?

Just once, so that she doesn’t f~~~ with me again!

She’s only f~~~ing with you now because you are letting her.  Stop letting her.  She can’t do a damn thing to you if you stop caring and walk away.

I understand you are frustrated, but you really need to let go of that.  Your frustration is just her infecting your life and f~~~ing with your emotions.  You need a bitchectomy.  Cut that bitch out of your life and leave her behind.

Oh, and for what it’s worth, walking away from her, rejecting her with no f~~~s given, really is the worst thing you can do to her.  Your frustration and rage, even if you go so far as causing her harm, still validates her.  It shows her she is important to you.  Walking away with indifference completely invalidates her.  It shows her that she has no value whatsoever.  Believe me, being valueless is the one thing women hate and fear above everything else.