MGTOW7 Years… – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:04:31 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/page/346/#post-51361 <![CDATA[7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/page/346/#post-51361 Tue, 12 May 2015 14:35:23 +0000 Jon92 In my intro I described a relationship with a single,divorced mom that I have been in the last 7 years that has pretty much ended last month. Maybe Im on the wrong forum here, but I have been massively heartbroken and I want her back. The main reason we broke up I think is that we have been living apart for the last almost 3 years in a long distance type relationship. The past year was really rough for me as I had a stressful difficult job and was always tired. Due to this I wasn’t communicating with her like I should have been wasn’t driving down to see her as much and I missed being there for her during a surgery she had. The bottom line is, I really didn’t mean or intend for that to happen. It just kinda did. I was depressed and was in la la land. This relationship started off f~~~ing great. The reasons why I want her back are she is old fashioned, loyal, loving, and she would have done anything for me. I feel I threw it away. Thing that bothers me the most is that if she had been a single woman or had a better grip on her kid things would have been different. walking into an instant family at 29 years old with her son became really difficult. At the time I tried the best that I could but I see now how I should have done things. I really f~~~ed up. even when she was dropping hints for me to move back in with her, I was skiddish. I stalled. Her son is a bit older now and while I still think he is massively spoiled and put on a pedestal, id rather deal with that, than the pain I feel right now. It just wasn’t worth it. Since I moved out in 2012, I had 2 major deaths in the family, my dad had a heart attack, and other major life changes happen. I needed to be here and not there for that period of time. I did what i felt was right at the time but now its different. Im done with all of that but now her attitude is changed. She doesn’t know, needs time, questions me now on why now, etc etc. When all along she should know that I was a good guy. all of a sudden it seems I’m like Charles Manson. Maybe she found someone else, but Ive been keeping in contact trying to work on her and we are going to meet up soon to talk in person. Hopefully it works out. I just don’t get how all of a sudden the past 2 years I was an asshole when I was taking care of my mom dad and grandparents and she knew that too. I get no credit for it, its like out the window.  Another thing that has caught me off guard too is all of a sudden everything she was “okay” with she’s speaking up about how crappy I was. Did I expect this woman to wait for me forever? The answer is yes and I will tell you why. She literally told me everyday i was the love of her life and she was going nowhere. Everyday! Do you guys have any insight?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51381 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51381 Tue, 12 May 2015 15:01:27 +0000 Keymaster Two things jumped out. Three actually.

1. Yep. Probably the wrong forum for you. I feel for you – I really do – and the worst thing you want right now is for someone to snap you right out of it. I would be happy to do you the favor but Im just not up to shattering a guy’s illusions today. Prepare for someone else to do it though….because this is place where guys will sugarcoat nothing for your benefit.

2.

I just don’t get how all of a sudden the past 2 years I was an asshole…. I get no credit for it, its like out the window.

Hate to break it to you. Women don’t see it as an “investment” on your part. That means nothing to them. It’s Briffault’s Law. They base everything on how they feel “right now”. Last two years don’t count. And in 5 more years, the last 7 years won’t count. When a woman tells you how she “feels”, always append it (in your mind) with the words: “right now”.

“you’re the love of my life”…..right now.

“you’re the most wonderful man I ever met”…. right now.

“I see us staying together forever”…. right now.

That’s the bottom line, and it will prepare you.

3.

Due to this I wasn’t communicating with her like I should have been wasn’t driving down to see her as much….

Did you do the best you could? There is a reason you didn’t. You’re accepting responsibility for s~~~ you may not have to. Is it really your responsibility to drive down to see her all the time? DOn’t be so hard on yourself. First thing guys do when s~~~ doesn’t work out, they blame themselves. Remove some of that baggage — TODAY. You’re dealing with your Dad’s heart attack and 2 deaths in the family. Come on! Give yourself a break, man.

Perhaps I ended up shattering some illusions after all.
Those are the things that jumped out at me.
Perhaps none of it is of value.
Discard it if you must.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51384 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51384 Tue, 12 May 2015 15:05:49 +0000 Jon92 I appreciate it man. No, I feel I didn’t do the best that I could. Thats something that id like to do now moving forward. Yes, Im starting to understand the “right now” emotional gimmick.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51389 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51389 Tue, 12 May 2015 15:18:52 +0000 Keymaster

No, I feel I didn’t do the best that I could.

That’s natural. But very often it’s not true.

The “right now” gimmick is a parachute so you don’t crash when you’re standing there scratching your head wondering where you went wrong.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51390 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51390 Tue, 12 May 2015 15:22:11 +0000 ILiveAgain Why not have a look through the archive here. It will hopefully give you some food for thought.

You are in love because men CAN love COMPLETELY ….. women can’t (Briffault’s Law as KeyMaster stated).

There is nothing to lose by aquiring knowledge on how the female mind works. It may help you in deciding either way.

If you were here … I’d slap you and throw red pills down you throat 😁

But you’re not ….. lucky you.

Think EVERYTHING through very carefully before you make a choice.

Should you go back, expect extra thick chains as you enter the plantation.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51398 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51398 Tue, 12 May 2015 15:55:24 +0000 xgreenlanternox Before I begin, please understand that this may come off as very harsh or me sounding like a jerk. If you are not ready for this, then hit the back button and come back to this response when you are (if ever), but I think this is something you need to hear.

First of all, you are placing way too much responsibility on yourself for the ending of this relationship. The woman had surgery – you had 2 f~~~ing deaths, one of which is your father and most likely your biggest role model (I know I would be absolutely devastated the day my father passes away) and you’re the wrong one here? How exactly did you rationalize that? I’ll tell you how – woman’s manipulative and emotional games. Without you knowing, she got inside of your head during one of your many conversations and f~~~ed your thoughts up to the point where you believe you were WRONG for not putting her before the death of your father… This is a common character trait of the classic female – mind games and always being the victim no matter what. This is red flag # 1 that she is not the “princess and NAWALT” she has you believing that she is.

Second, why was all of this on you to “communicate” and “drive down to see her” all the time any way? I understand she had surgery, but what about outside of that? All the times she could have come to see you but didn’t. No excuse for it. You were required to be her emotional tampon by “communicating” with her and a “resource dispenser” by spending your money in gas, wear and tear on your car etc to come visit her. It may have been subtle, but this is another common character trait of the classic female – exploiting a man for his resources. Wait until you marry her and see how much she starts exploiting from you then. This is red flag # 2 that she is not the “princess and NAWALT” she has you believing that she is.

There are many more points I can make here, but I will wait until you ask to hear them. I think the above is hope shattering enough and I don’t want to overdo it for you right out of the gate. Just remember, we were all blue-pilled and blind at one point… You’re eyes will only open when you let them.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51405 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51405 Tue, 12 May 2015 16:18:00 +0000 Jon92 Just to clear things up, My dad had a massive heart attack but survived. It was my grandparents that died 5 months apart which was way worse than losing my parents in a way. My grandfather was my f~~~ing hero. He was the man! Please carry on sir….

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51408 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51408 Tue, 12 May 2015 16:34:14 +0000 xgreenlanternox

Just to clear things up, My dad had a massive heart attack but survived. It was my grandparents that died 5 months apart which was way worse than losing my parents in a way. My grandfather was my f~~~ing hero. He was the man! Please carry on sir….

OK – but regardless, it was still 2 people with whom you actually strongly loved (and who actually truly loved you back) that you lost in a very short window of time – much bigger deal than any surgery in the grand scheme of things.

Reading through your post, the only things that I see that seemed to have impacted the relationship were things that if changed would only benefit the woman and subsequently hurt you at the same time. first off, you were in a stressful and difficult job and always tired. I too have been in a stressful and difficult job and know the wear and tear it has on a person’s well-being and how tired that makes you. What do you expect yourself to have done differently? Quit your job so that you aren’t tired and can go spend more of the money you are no longer earning to go visit her? Great – she now has a more available emotional tampon while you are now more stressed at the end of the day trying to figure out how you are going to pay your bills. Her 1, you 0.

She simultaneously tells you you have power to help her with her child but then overrides you every chance she gets. How exactly is that power? I have dated a single woman with 3 children before. I was given full permission to discipline the kids as needed and I was never once overridden. Those kids were out of control when I first started dating her and by the time I had decided to go my own way and split up with her, those kids were well behaved. That is power being used for good. No, what your purpose was was to be there again, as an emotional tampon, while she vents to you about all the bad s~~~ her kid does while not letting you do anything to change that. So you now have to deal with a misbehaving kid and her bitching in your ear about it at the same time while being tied to the chair not allowed to do anything while she also simultaneously fills her daily dose of drama needs all in one shot – bonus for her! Her 2.5, you 0.

You didn’t f~~~ up one bit by not moving back in with her – you made the absolute correct choice. She wanted you back in there because she realized everything that was gone and selfishly wanted to regain it. It had nothing to do with your happiness. They all start out great, because they are on their best behavior while they work on setting the trap – its all part of the plan.

I am sure others can elaborate on this even further and I hope they do.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51439 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51439 Tue, 12 May 2015 17:43:32 +0000 RoyDal

… I have been massively heartbroken and I want her back. …

This too shall pass. “Love” is a glandular condition and therefore temporary. BTW, emotions are often replaced by their opposites as the glandular system seesaws through its balance point.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51449 <![CDATA[Reply To: 7 Years…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/7-years/#post-51449 Tue, 12 May 2015 18:10:27 +0000 Jon92 I think what really happened here was between me not being there and her perception that I didn’t like her kid is that she found someone else. She’s kinda hinted but nothing definitive. To flip the script like this fast, it has to be because of another dude. We still talk and communicate . Im trying to work on this with her still but the walls are up.  I feel there were a million ways I could have handled things with her child differently but it is what it is. I meant well. He’s older now so I feel it could actually work better this time.

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