Here is a brief list of the annoying, disrespectful and disruptive behaviour of a majority of these females throughout the course:

1) Arriving late at either the start of the day or after breaks;

2) Openly playing / texting on phones in plain view of the course manager / invited guest(s);

3) Engaging in conversations completely irrelevant to the course whilst the trainer is trying to deliver a presentation. Often times causing the presenter to stop and either wait or ask them (way too politely) to rejoin reality;

4) Dominating discussions during the course of how they can do things better, in open defiance to the advice and suggestions of the presenter;

5) Talking loudly / Shrieking / Disruptive Behaviour during group exercises;

These are only a few of the main examples, but there were many more during this week but I’m too tired to continue!

Have you guys experienced anything similar with this, or have more examples to share?

Cheers,

SS.

Women are feeling so empowered these days that for some of us the only to do is to opt out as much as possible. Don’t see standard workplaces getting any better any time soon. QuarterWaveVertical had to attend sensitivity seminars and all kinds of other bulls~~~. Check his thread out.

http://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/male-primaryelementarygrade-school-teacher/

terrifying s~~~ man.

I can only imagine what would have happened if I told her I’d slap her if she kept taking the chip dip for herself (she was saying she’d slap me if I kept eating chips at the rate that I was or something like that).  Hooooo boy!

In response to the statement “…I’m gonna slap you…”, the first thing is the calm part. Don’t say anything immediately. Stare back and pause long enough for everyone at the table who heard it to shift their attention to you for your response. Make them wait for it, but only for a second or two. Then, fold your hands in front of yourself, lean forward slightly and while maintaining the same stare, lower your voice to a volume that forces her to pay closer attention in order to hear you. This lowering of your voice slightly puts people off balance if they have to strain a little to hear you.

Then state the obvious: “What you just threatened to do in front of all these witnesses is a criminal offense in every state. By just making that threat, you’ve already violated a series of codes and rules on workplace safety issued by OSHA and a variety of other federal government agencies…”. Then, no matter what the response from her, don’t say another word, but maintain the same quiet stare for as long as it takes for the situation to become awkward and uncomfortable for all present… the longer and more uncomfortable, the better.

Most likely, the response will be something along the lines of “it was just a joke…”. Ignore that and keep staring. Ignore the subsequent responses about ‘you’re not really taking that seriously are you?”. Ignore that and keep staring. Keep ignoring whatever she says. She will have a list of strategies to say to avoid or minimize her responsibility for what she just said. Be patient and keep staring for enough time to allow her to get all the way through that list. Keep staring until you’re certain that everyone present has become visibly uncomfortable. That discomfort won’t happen until she’s gotten to the bottom of her list, and nothing has worked. Only then, the discomfort starts. Figdeting, back pedaling, apologizing etc. are signs that the offender is nearing the bottom of the list. Make sure you stare quietly for at least that long, and then some… Do not break the stare until you are certain that you have created a situation so uncomfortable that everyone present is going to remember it.

The last thing anyone is going to remember about this uncomfortable situation, is that ‘everything seemed to be going fine until she threatened to slap him…then it just got all weird…’.

One last piece of advice: If you have an iPhone, or any other smart phone, download a ‘voice memo’ app for it. This is an app that allows you to record yourself walking around your house making a verbal shopping list or other mundane things for which you are too lazy to write things down.

What it also is… is an app that you can open and start and then put the phone back into the belt clip wear you normally carry it and where people are accustomed to seeing it. It’s an app that if turned on in an elevator on the ride to the HR dept, will begin recording everything around you and will continue recording everything around you until the battery goes dead or you run out of memory. I’ve easily recorded meetings that lasted more than an hour this way. Even better if you can get this person’s threats to you recorded.

Laws on the legality of recording a conversation very by state. In some places, it is not legal to record a conversation unless both parties agree to be recorded. In others, it’s legal if even one of the participants of the conversation is aware of the recording. If you live in a dual party area, it just means that when you go into one of these meetings, you have to pull out the phone, turn on the recorder and announce to the room, while the reorder is recording, that you will be recording the meeting, and that the recorder is already running. Anyone who objects to this is going to have their objection (legally) recorded. Anyone who is recorded without their knowledge while making a threat… can object all they want later when they find out. By then, they are going to be very busy trying to defend themselves…

If you decide to go this way, the first time anyone becomes aware that you are recording something, casually mention that you ‘do this all the time’ and have ‘been doing it for a while…’ as though it’s commonplace for you. maybe mumble something about wanting to be sure you have a way to remember any important details etc etc. Let them wonder about what you’ve already recorded them saying, and what you’re going to do with it…

Like the ‘calmly stating the obvious’ method above, this brings a dose of reality into the world of people who have disconnected from it… reconnecting them to consequences and accountability. Get a reputation as a black belt in the art of (calmly) wielding the reality club and being unafraid or even hair trigger in your willingness to pull it out and swing it. And most likely, people who prefer to live disconnected from reality will learn where the reality club’s arc is and stay well outside it. Because the longer you are disconnected from reality, the more frightening it becomes.

I learned this in the biography of former American President Harry S. Truman (aka Giv’em Hell Harry). Truman was known for several things in his presidency. The day he moved into the White House to begin his presidency, he put a small plaque on the desk of the oval office on which were inscribed the words “The buck stops here.” That was an indication to all that he was taking control, and unafraid of the responsibility that came with it. The story of this plaque is often told for amusement purposes, but when it is also remembered that Truman is the only man in the history of world ever to have ordered the use of atomic weapons (twice) in war, the quote on that plaque takes on a whole new significance. It’s also significant that when given the chance to apologize or express regret for the dropping of The Bomb, (enormously controversial even to this day) he never did.

When asked about his nickname, ‘Giv’em Hell Harry’, he responded that he never gave anyone hell… He’d just given them the truth, and they’d just thought it was hell.

I have always admired and sought to learn from and emulate people unafraid of truth, reality, responsibility, accountability… if you are unafraid of these things, you can be most terrifying to those who are.

With the law being what it is, a prof or instructor often has to deal with female students than they would with men.  Even a minor matter could result in endless headaches for that person.  I had to deal with that while I was teaching at a certain post-secondary institution and there have been many news reports of how the lives of schoolteachers and professors were made miserable because of an allegation of misconduct.  Sadly, in such matter, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty mysteriously disappears.

In many cases, the accusations were found to be groundless or gross distortions of what actually took place.  However, the damage was done and, often, those who were accused left their jobs and went someplace else.