Somehow, in spite of everything I’ve learned about how backwards female psychology is, I expected her to have the strength to decide for herself. Now I realize that telling her I didn’t want to take her home because she had a boyfriend (I didn’t want to be “that guy”) what I perceived as an act of integrity, she perceived as an act of weakness. Now she tells me that she felt guilty so she talked to her boyfriend about it and guess what? The poor blue piller forgave her!

This must be exactly what happened when my ex cheated on me. Some guy chatted her up, she gave in and went home with him and kept it a secret from me until she was sure she was happier with the new guy. It’s sickening. I know could have easily just used her for sex, but I respect people too much, I didn’t want to put her relationship at any more risk than it already was from us making out. Whatever, let them live their blue pill fantasy.

This can never be overstated! Honestly, if you expect a woman to maintain the abstract ideal of a male virtue like integrity, you are checking out of reality. Interaction with women is far more enjoyable and a lot less depressing if you view them as a separate species that literally cannot operate on your wavelength. And this is what they are, in their cranium, an entire species unto themselves. It is a pragmatic view of women, but even they will admit it.

One can have special privileges and differential treatment….

– OR –

One can have RESPECT.

One can NOT. HAVE. BOTH.

To hang on to her privileges, the modern woman will sell out anything. Including her own integrity. Vlie Nord’s quote “honor is male abstraction. don’t expect women to understand” is so fantastic because women see no value in it. She sees more value (and will even be rewarded!) by pretending to hate being sexually objectified… while not having ANY problem with the benefits she enjoys from showing her ass and t~~~. This is only one way in which women work extremely hard to make sure they can’t be respected. Fighting and voting for the right to walk around topless, but then COMPLAIN when men look at her t~~~? This is a hypocrisy of a magnitude that can’t even be expressed with words.

Men would rather have self respect. We will DIE for what we believe in. No matter how many people say the world is flat, a man will roll up his sleeves and cross the worlds most tempestuous oceans – at great cost to himself – just to find out if the world is indeed ROUND. A woman wouldn’t and never will. She will adopt any philosophy or ideology- no matter how ridiculous – simply because the herd does, and if it’s “safe” and benefits her. They don’t have the B~~~~ to go against the grain. Because they can’t afford it. It would mean forfeiting her pussy pass, and she would rather die than do that.

Big respect for staying true to yourself.

Women will never look at you with admiration and think “gosh he’s a stand-up guy and didn’t try to f~~~ me because I had a boyfriend.” No way. in her mind, this is a rejection and you’re “weak’. “MEN ARE CHEATERS SHOULD KEEP IT IN THEIR PANTS!!!!! AND IF THEY DONT WANT TO F~~~ ME BEHIND MY BOYFRIENDS BACK THEY ARE COWARDS!!!!”

How women have this kind of s~~~ for brains is staggering.
It’s a good thing babies have a 50% shot at being male.. or we would all be completely screwed.

Women are a mass of inconsistency.

The OP’s part about the fact that she saw him as weak because he didn’t take her, is spot on.
But who is worse off?

The sucker that forgave her.
There are men like this everywhere and the only way to force their eyes open, is to call women out on every little thing they do.

I can shovel snow with a toothbrush better than try to explain integrity to women

Boy you said it Caveman. “integrity” is one of the most Googled words because it’s so damn lacking.

<cite>@mgtow.com said:</cite>
One can have special privileges and differential treatment….

– OR –

One can have RESPECT.
One can NOT. HAVE. BOTH.

Felt a need to correct this

One can have

UNEARNED

special privileges and differential treatment…

– OR –

One can have RESPECT.
One can NOT. HAVE. BOTH.
There are times and places where privileges and preferential treatments are earned
(example: veterans and certain hiring practices [Post office, Federal jobs])

I mean, honor is binding, it keeps you from doing things, sometimes things you want to do (not you yourself professed that you like this girl and state the boyfriend as an obstacle for better or worse) but you didn’t. And my question here is what did it gain you?

Honor promotes respect from your peers, and in today’s age its mostly male peers but I mean we can get respect in other ways. Achievement is in our society at least independent from honor, yet garners respect. Don’t get me wrong I’m not suggesting you abandon it, but I’d like to hear what every one else has to say for a why (Apologies but I like to play me some devils advocate)

As for excluding women from it I think is doing everyone ourselves included a disservice. To be fair I’d say it is more related to masculinity from both experience and historically speaking, but any one is capable of standing up for a belief. Early christian saints, many of whom were women did it for their religion. Women of today I’ll agree that women of today have no honor, but so too can it be said of many of our men.

Another for every one question, how would you define honor? and please dont just espouse a dictionary definition. While workable I doubt it sums up all of what you mean when you say.