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All the same s~~~ i have been through is the same as what every other guy in a relationship has been through, it lets us compare notes and see what is really happening.

It allows you to see that no matter what you did or not do in a relationship, it will never be enough for her.

Once you have taken the red pill your life will never be the same again. It allows you to live your life the way you want to and have women in your life (if you want to) with your eyes wide open so you can make informed choices.

I came here looking for a way to improve any future relationship that i might have but what i found was a whole lot more. It has given me a new perspective on life and love, on men and women and it has given me the conviction to go my own way and be proud of it. To be myself and f~~~ convention as i don’t need society telling me what i should do (get married) because I’ll be making that choice myself and the choice i will be making is no thank you.

<cite>@mgtow.com said:</cite>
Thank you for posting. We are working on compiling all the very BEST comments from married men into an interactive online BOOK which will also be set up for user submissions – so guys can stop by and tell their stories. Like a gallon-size bottle of red pills for anyone who feels like overdosing.

Awesome, complete that book and I’ll have that URL on speed dial for a pack of friends.

– It might sound stupid, but I do fantasize about getting married and having a wife. But to be honest, my reasoning and logic is strictly against it and my logic has been winning so far. How to get these self-destructive thoughts out of my head?
– If I don’t want to marry and plan on holding on to that ideal (F~~~ marriage I will never even hook up or date), but still fantasize about it – Does that make me a hypocrite? Because it surely feels like it and it is severely hurting my enormous amount of self-respect.
– Where I am from, your parents wait for you to find the right girl for yourself…. only till you have graduated University and gotten yourself a job. Even then if you are single, they would go find similar willing parents and force you to get married to their daughter. Well, I have a job and my parents are pressuring me too hard to get married. How do I escape? So far, I have managed to get off the hook by saying “I don’t like that girl’s dress. I don’t like that girl’s face. I don’t like her attitude. I don’t like her parents.” And thus, avoiding all incoming bullets. But honestly I am running out of excuses and my parents are beginning to figure out what is going on. So I went and told them to their face “I don’t wanna marry. Menstruation…. I mean, Period. I don’t wanna marry, period!”

What does my mom do after that? Cry. What does my father do after that? Lectures. Mom says “Even watching me and your father…. such a perfect couple, you think marriage is so bad?” Well, I did tell them, “Yes, I do. Just because you two are perfect, does not mean mine will be. And I see what my father goes through even when you two are “perfect”. I shudder to imagine what would’ve happened if you two were any less than perfect. And just because my parents marriage is fine, does not mean I should learn from it and not from ALL the 5 marriage problems of her brothers and sisters.”
After that session was over, next day, I heard my mother talking to another prospective bride’s parents over the phone. How do I get out?

3 things: Teach me the art of not fantasizing about women. Tell me if I really am a hypocrite for doing so. How do I escape from my parents’ pressures?

It might sound stupid, but I do fantasize about getting married and having a wife. But to be honest, my reasoning and logic is strictly against it and my logic has been winning so far. How to get these self-destructive thoughts out of my head?

Talk to a divorce attorney.. and watch the film “divorce corp”. That will do it.

The only risk reasonable people are willing to take are CALCULATED risks. One must weigh the costs and benefits of those risks. As it is, marriage FAILS a cost/benefit analysis for any man. Even if a man WANTS it to work, a woman can decide to crash that stock on a whim – even if she has 50 affairs in her marriage, he will still pay. Do you feel like paying $3 million + property when your wife f~~~s your friend for free?

How to get these self-destructive thoughts out of my head?

Realize they have been put INTO your head. By media. Television. Movies. And even your parents.
Commitment is not more important than individuality.

Just because a marriage doesn’t fail… doesn’t mean it “worked”.
Is a marriage contract commensurate compensation for all your efforts?

I heard my mother talking to another prospective bride’s parents over the phone. How do I get out? I am running out of excuses

Learn the value of a smile, and the word “NO”. No explanation. No excuses. Just ….. “no”.
You don’t NEED anything else. Especially someone else’s approval. Ever.

Practice saying it. “no”. Nothing else. Just “no”. It’s the best goddam word in the English language. ( i wish I learned to say it sooner). Let it always be your first response. Someone wants something? “no”. A woman wants your help? “no”. Someone wants you to go out with the neighbors daughter? “no”. Then just sit back and enjoy yourself as the rest of the world trips over themselves desperately trying to turn your “no” into a “yes”. That’s the position you want to be in. Be entertained and amused by it. The reason why “no” is such a great response, is because you can always say “yes” later. But how many times have you said “yes” right away and WISH you said “no”?

And as I said, I did say ‘No’. And after all the drama that ensued, “The next day I heard my mother talking to another prospective bride’s parents over the phone. How do I get out?”, it’s like they heard me, lectured me, created the drama and then just kept on doing what they were doing. Sometimes I feel like moving out to my own place, but I love my parents too much. Can’t live without them. It might not sound much MGHOW to you but that’s just how I am. I apologize if I am a disappointment to this group.

All the more reason to not marry because women will come in, and s~~~ on your parents’ face and will convince you to do so as well (Metaphorically of course). I know I can’t be convinced, but why even bother to reach that far when all that can simply be avoided through marriage, no?

Say ‘NO’. Then just sit back and enjoy yourself as the rest of the world trips over themselves desperately trying to turn your “no” into a “yes”. That’s the position you want to be in. Be entertained and amused by it. The reason why “no” is such a great response, is because you can always say “yes” later. But how many times have you said “yes” right away and WISH you said “no”?

That is the most awesome thing I heard all week. I’m a novelist and…. do you mind if I just…. you know…. plagiarize that line for one of my books?

That is the most awesome thing I heard all week. I’m a novelist and…. do you mind if I just…. you know…. plagiarize that line for one of my books?

“NO”.

(lol)

Sure go right ahead. It would be my honor. If they make it into a movie, you can buy me a beer. I wish you every success with that. Cheers!

NOW.. the likelihood of you finding a woman in today’s society with the same beliefs of the mothers in a previous generation are extremely low. Those women are gone (at least here in America). As the great Tom Leykis says:
“Back in these days men went to work all day and took care of the finances, and the women stayed home and cleaned house all day, raised children and it was equal. They didnt have social networking accounts, and role models like kim kardashian and lindsey lohan… but those days are long gone. Most women (didn’t say all) in today’s generation are scandalous skanks, these women want you to bring home more money, so they can go buy more clothes, go tanning, get boob jobs, and then women spend their days posting selfies on Facebook/twitter of their new hair or bikini shots getting likes/comments talking about how pretty they are. They spend their days chatting with their 864 friends, 812 of which are guys that have an interest beyond friendship. They keep all their ex boyfriends in close reach, in case things don’t work out. It has never been easier to be unfaithful than it is in our generation today.