MGTOWWhen is the "Nice Guy" bullshit going to end? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 06:58:29 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/page/397/#post-35859 <![CDATA[When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/page/397/#post-35859 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 14:21:32 +0000 AlmostNiceGuy I found myself talking to a former classmate of mine, I was the go to “relationship guru” for both the guys and the girls in my grade. A buddy of mine had on-off things with her as her boyfriend left for college, never getting laid, or so much as a bj. She has the nerve to ask me for advice, wrong move. So this slut talks about how she moved in with her boyfriend in college, and yet still talks to my friend who is her FWWB (Friend without any benefits), and how she wishes that she could undo her decisions.

Slut: “I like them both so much but “FWWB” is so nice but I am already commited to “mangina” and don’t want to risk it”.

Me: “Well that sucks, but however much of a friend “FWWB” is, nice guys do finish last.

Hoe-bag: “Nice Guys DON’T finish last. It’s just I was with “mangina”before him and I was committed to…”

Me: “Cut the bulls~~~. You went with “mangina” cause he had his future figured out, wealthy family, full ride through college, and guaranteed job after. “FWWB” didn’t have any, but he is working and studying his ass off to achieve those. And when he does, because he will, I hope that he learns the lesson you showed him. Nice Guys finish last because they aren’t they’re own priority, he put you in a pedestal while “mangina” would have slapped you silly. So don’t cry and bitch when he’s getting road-head from a blonde bombshell, while you are feeding the child of the man you went with because it was a smart move. Sucks to be wrong don’t it?”

She never replied to that last message, and thank god, I would have continued berating her. Her hypergamous nature crushed any hopes she had with my friend, potentially ruining something great for her. Great to know “FWWB” has taken his red-pill, reason why he is studying and working so hard. Just though about putting this out there. Any stories on hypocrite sluts who say nice guys don’t finish last?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35864 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35864 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:02:24 +0000 Soul Man FACT:  The bulls~~~ that women vomit forth e.g. “I just want a nice guy” is…well…bulls~~~.  I guess they are trying to convince themselves out of some attempt to reconcile reality with the “princess delusion” with which they all seem to be afflicted.  How many women have you observed in life that say one thing and go 180 degrees in the opposite direction?

CONCLUSION:  If you want pussy ‘o plenty then just be an arrogant narcissistic prick.  Women are drawn to that like moths to a flame.  Nice guys generally don’t get pussy…and if they do stumble in to some tang it will be short-lived because she will extract what she can, get bored and full of herself, then move on to some chump (the prick) that will say whatever is necessary to get her to drop those panties.

BOTTOM LINE: Nice guys finish last if they even get a chance to run the race.  Pricks get the beaver.  It’s that simple.  Be a prick for maximum efficacy.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35870 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35870 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 15:48:19 +0000

BOTTOM LINE: Nice guys finish last if they even get a chance to run the race. Pricks get the beaver. It’s that simple. Be a prick for maximum efficacy.

That’s a harsh but true lesson to learn. I am doing some “experiments” with this idea, and to my disappointment, it is turning out true. For whatever reason I can’t be a full prick, but I can try. There is this woman I have  a certain attraction to, and when I first met her, I tried to be as nice as possible, and the result was receiving the cold shoulder. Since reading mgtow material and taking some regular dose of red pills, I am trying to keep women out of my personal life, including the chick mentioned before. I stopped acknowledging her, trying to start conversations, even trying to say hi. Lo and behold, she started putting some effort to make me pay attention to her. It is not much, but the change is definitely there. I am assuming if I really wanted to f~~~ her all I needed to do is start acting on the most Chauvinistic way possible. The thing is I don’t know how to neither I want to act like that, since I like to think I have some moral standards that I try to follow.

So yeah, good guys don’t finish last, because they don’t race at all.

Cheers.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35884 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35884 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:28:04 +0000 Soul Man

BOTTOM LINE: Nice guys finish last if they even get a chance to run the race. Pricks get the beaver. It’s that simple. Be a prick for maximum efficacy.

That’s a harsh but true lesson to learn. I am doing some “experiments” with this idea, and to my disappointment, it is turning out true. For whatever reason I can’t be a full prick, but I can try. There is this woman I have a certain attraction to, and when I first met her, I tried to be as nice as possible, and the result was receiving the cold shoulder. Since reading mgtow material and taking some regular dose of red pills, I am trying to keep women out of my personal life, including the chick mentioned before. I stopped acknowledging her, trying to start conversations, even trying to say hi. Lo and behold, she started putting some effort to make me pay attention to her. It is not much, but the change is definitely there. I am assuming if I really wanted to f~~~ her all I needed to do is start acting on the most Chauvinistic way possible. The thing is I don’t know how to neither I want to act like that, since I like to think I have some moral standards that I try to follow. So yeah, good guys don’t finish last, because they don’t race at all. Cheers.

I hear ya bro.  It all boils down to conducting oneself with honor or without honor.   The “honor” part isn’t about impressing a woman either.  It’s about remaining true to oneself and one’s own values.   Unfortunately the world we live in doesn’t seem to appreciate “conservative” values any longer.   Fewer snd fewer people have values that aren’t totally self-absorbed and self-serving.  That leaves people with honor out in the cold.  And guess what?  Honor is a purely male construct. Women have no understanding of the concept so ALL males start with that handicap right out of the gate.  Sad but true…

So whether you agree with it or not you have two choices when it comes to getting pussy or not getting pussy;  be a mangina and maybe she will give you the time of day between rides on the c~~~ carousel OR be a primary c~~~ on that carousel.  Those are your two choices.

Act like you couldn’t give a f~~~ if her bush was on fire.  Go get some pussy from a few skanks on the side and let it be known that you are worn out from juggling cats.  That broad you fancy will take notice and get curious.  Then it’s game on.  They never want you until someone else has you.  FACT.

Geez…I’m sounding like a PUA now….

 

 

 

 

 

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35888 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35888 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:45:31 +0000 76binder So, here’s my theory on the “nice guy” conundrum. Women are attracted to strength yet don’t have a proper metric for it. So bad boys appear strong and therefore get chosen as mating partners. I don’t know how many times I have heard a woman say she likes a guy that can tell her no.

So, instead of trying to figure out the tangled mess, of crossed wires and mixed signals sent by a woman, do this… MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. F~~~ her… literally if you so please. The less interested in her you become, and the happier you are the more women chase you. I’m not saying self help “win the girl.” Bulls~~~ acting. I mean seriously, f~~~ them all, mentally first, then do what you enjoy in life. The resulting change in your core make up will make women practically fight over you, with zero effort on your part. That’s exactly the trick, quit trying, and just be a natural man. Women’s social programming will bitch and moan about it, but their biological programming will get wet and moan. Biology will win.

It isn’t about being a douche really. Don’t lower your standards or behave in a manner unbecoming or unlike who you are, just quit giving a f~~~, and you eventually start getting f~~~s for free. Women really can’t stand to see an independent free guy who is happy, and they haven’t banged him yet.

Don’t try to be a jerk, but don’t brook any bulls~~~ either. Total honesty works wonders. Try this next time you are horny and the girl you are banging at the time turns you down. Very calmly say “OK, I’m going to go rub one out to some hot porn, and drink a beer before I go to sleep then.” Or better yet “OK, I’m going over to your competition, and I’m going to f~~~ her like there’s no tomorrow.” Don’t be mean about it, just facts very matter of factly. The trick is it can’t be a trick or a bluff. She will call BS on you, she isn’t used to a real man. When she does leave to go screw the other girl, or grab the porn turn it up and start cranking on it. Don’t hide it do it blatantly like it’s the most natural thing in the world. 1 of 2 things will happen. She will stop you mid wank and f~~~ you like the animals we are, or you’ll be done with the manipulative bitch forever. Either way you get your rocks off. You’ll be surprised how many times it’s the former response, especially if there is a competitor involved.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35891 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35891 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:52:31 +0000 ironheart

I hear ya bro. It all boils down to conducting oneself with honor or without honor. The “honor” part isn’t about impressing a woman either. It’s about remaining true to oneself and one’s own values.

Women are mostly lost to the brainwashing. It will ONLY be men with the old sense of honour and some sense of better ethics that will save this world from itself. Yeah some may laugh at that, but really it is old world values that will be the only thing that save us from the new age disposable culture that women live for and want. The feminists had their kick at the can, and they blew it. Now it is time to stand up, be a man, and face down the BS in the world that women created.

Don’t fall for being a PUA or that garbage either. Sure those guys like to parade around that they get women, but so what. In the end anyone can get with some cash. PUA BS is just that, and it is abusive and devalues human spirit. Drugs and Booze may feel right too, but look where they end up if you base your spiritual life on either of those. Pussy is not different. When it is just hook-up sex it is worthless, and makes the greater world appreciate it less. Giving Fembies what they want in bed is not going to help the world pay attention. It just makes the little princesses laugh at MGTOW and MRA men, while they go off and reproduce only with the mangina types. They get what they want, while you think it is really you who is using them. Do you really think women are that stupid to let a man really use them in a way that women do not want to be used? Its like the sub chicks that top from below. It’s illusion.

If women are such cowards as to label you a nice guy, then label them for what they are – female chauvinist pigs.

There really are women who not completely brain dead on this subject, but they are becoming very, very rare.

Female Chauvinism

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35916 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35916 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:19:07 +0000 @Soulman: Amen brother  🙂

Just a quick clarification, I’m not ignoring this chick to get into her pants. I am doing in all honesty to improve my life and avoid drama. It is just that, upon reading (and hearing) the idea that women are attracted to men that treat them “badly” I decided to, since I was avoiding her anyway, pay attention to her reaction towards me and try to compare to when we first met. And although it is nothing astonishing, there ARE changes.

Besides, the fact that I do feel a certain attraction to her in a physical way is more the reason for me to maintain distance. Like I said, it is not of my personality to be a “bad” boy, but I don’t like to be used either. Mind you, I’m not being rude to her or anything like that, I am just trying not pay her attention like other men do. I treat her, at best, as a MALE colleague. I talk to her as long as SHE initiates the conversation, I say hi as long SHE says “hi” to me. I don’t go out of my way to impress her AT ALL. We train martial arts on the same place, and there are enough men there worshiping her, I’m just not interested in being one more of her followers.

Of course, if she ever wants to f~~~, I will not pass the opportunity, but don’t expect me to give her more credit then she deserves. She has a great body (at least, for my taste), but so far that’s all she got. And that is just not enough for me to start bending over for (as a matter of fact, I don’t think there is ANY motive for bending over a woman, after all, we are equals, right?), if that’s all she is good for, she can be replaced by porn (or hookers).

Cheers

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35956 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35956 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:02:52 +0000 Ned Trent Hey BadKan what you might well need is not your usual dose of red pills, but maybe a temporary overdose of it to change into a “bad buoy” if you indeed want to and/or are physically attracted to her. You know, I am there right now, had my temp overdose and yes, I am gradually getting there towards my personal change and presumably might well harvest one or the other fruit soonish in the process, but even if I didn’t: snow what? And if I did, well I’ll be darned vigilant and careful, you bet..! Gents, this man wants an overdose of red pills the new very counter drug of “love” itself, which we exclusively hand out as the ultimate drug dealers in here, right lads..?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35976 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35976 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 22:59:46 +0000 Smitty the Great One listen and learn….

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35980 <![CDATA[Reply To: When is the "Nice Guy" bulls~~~ going to end?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/when-is-the-nice-guy-bullshit-going-to-end/#post-35980 Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:14:43 +0000 Hey Ned,

It is like I said, I pretty much realized what I would have to do in order to get to her. The thing is: I don’t think it is worth it. Sure, there are things on my personality that I would like to change and I am working on those, but being a prick to get tail is not one of them. What you see is what you get (or, in the case of women, what they don’t see, cause I will be dammed if I will open myself to the ladies anytime soon) soooo if she wants the “bad boys”, good luck to her. However, she and any other woman better don’t expect me to think highly of them if I see them making poor decisions and winning when they suffer the consequences. Even on the hypothetical scenario of me getting the chance to tap that ass, I would still be honest with her in laying down what my intentions are, and in case of any red flag I would bail out in a blink of an eye.

That is what I am realizing women don’t get, they act all high and mighty as if sleeping around was some sort of proof of empowerment. And although they sure have more chances of having sex then men do, just because you can do something don’t mean you should do it. Self-control is a virtue, one that I value highly, and the more power you have the more self-control is required. And since sex is something women have total control off (sort off), the fact that they sleep with anyone that looks good without even bothering to look a little deeper (not everything that glitter is gold) speaks volumes of their character. But I digress.

My point is, sleeping with this “friend” of mine is not my priority, neither I want it to be. I just though it was interesting to point out the subtle changes on her behavior when an average guy like me just don’t gives her the same amount of attention that the other guys around her do, that’s when I give her any attention at all. She still doesn’t interact with me as she does with all the other, more athletic guys (hugging, touching their shoulders, etc), but I have the impression that she noticed that I am not even trying to “compete” with them. Besides, even if I tried to act like the douche women seem to enjoy, I would be soon overlooked by someone else that have more “talent” for being an asshole, and like I said before, this is certainly not a trait I would like to acquire.

So to her I say: good luck. May she keep “enjoying” the “alphas” wherever she goes. I might even get a shot if the chance present itself. However, I will not go out of my way to take it, and if it doesn’t? It will certainly NOT be missed.

🙂

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