MGTOWWhat's up at MGTOW USA ? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:36:17 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/page/482/#post-10930 <![CDATA[What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/page/482/#post-10930 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 15:43:16 +0000 YouWish Hey hey. New MGTOW officially, but been MGTOW all my life. Joined MGTOW-USA group on Facebook a week ago or so. I got into a discussion thread over there about whether right-wing politics (and/or Christianity) belongs in MGTOW. I’m gonna shoot straight here: It was the dumbest conversation I had all week. Really disappointed in the level of banter in some of those threads. Seems to be a couple guys who get all betsy-wetsy if someone mentions God or bible principles connected to their MGTOW path. That is moronic. The bible talks about the bitches we hate better than we do all day long, and warns us about ’em, and calls them in really strong language what they are. It don’t get no more MGTOW than bible. Paul said if you ain’t married, DON”T GET MARRIED.

Look, fellas, if that’s gonna be the level of discourse, and if a couple discontents are gonna decide what YOUR OWN WAY can or can’t be, what are we doing here ? We should be back arguing with real women.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10938 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10938 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:18:40 +0000 YouWish By the way, I don’t care if I’m runnin’ shoulder-to-shoulder with Satanists on this page. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. I ain’t here to get ya to church.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10941 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10941 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 17:13:54 +0000 jambear Religion and religious people are OK by me. I am agnostic and have been for awhile now and so I tend to gel with both religious and atheist people just fine. I personally do not see a problem with being a MGTOW and being religious. If it makes you happy or gives you a sense of comfort that you need then by all means do it.  This world is filled with so much s~~~ I will not work in any fashion to deny you your God. All I ask is that you extend me the same courtesy and not push your beliefs on me.

As for religion being connected to MGTOW you said it well already. MGTOW stands for men going their own way. You choose that path that you believe is the best path to going your own way. If this path includes God then I say cool. If this path is without God I say cool. If this path includes hurting people I say not cool. Not to radical point of view but simple enough I think.

The only reason I would think that people have a problem mixing MGTOW and God is that God is kinda like a woman. Telling you what to think and how to act and where to spend your money. Any of the pros for God even sound like some of the reasons that woman would make for marriage, it brings you love, comfort, stability, soundness of mind, peace, and companionship. So I can see why some people would not like the 2 mixing and even make the argument that you are just replacing woman with God and you are not truly going your own way IE priests, monks, shamans, any holy man that is not able to be married really.

I would counter this by saying since you are not directly speaking to God and getting his direct input but, more using his teachings to guide your decisions to stay on his preferred path, that God is an abstract or ideal that you choose to be more like and not a slave to. This is different from the relationship you would have with a woman who will force and coerce your path into what is convenient for her regardless of what you want.

So while the rewards and goals between a woman and God are similar the way you move along the path is the key difference and should be taken into consideration.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10990 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10990 Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:44:44 +0000 coolsideofthepillow I am definitely a hardcore christian and a MGTOW, the bible completely agrees with MGTOW and has more MGTOW in the book than any other book Ive ever read. It even has a really good story on false rape accusations and imprisonment when Joseph got locked up over the lying whore that said he raped her in Genesis chapter 39. Also the story of samson and deliliah when another lying whore ruined a mans life and had him thrown into prison, and yes paul called it a blessing to be a MGTOW and strongly discouraged marriage. As for solomon the wisest man to ever live….heres what he had to say in proverbs 21:19 “It is better to be living in a waste land, than with a bitter-tongued and angry woman.”….so for all you athiests, I dont care what you believe but even you would have to admit that the oldest book on the face of the earth tried repeatedly to warn men about women….not to mention the fall of man kind was over a man that didnt take control over his wife and listened to what she had to say when she offered him the forbidden fruit!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10995 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10995 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 00:18:16 +0000 deadgatsby new member here.  saw coolside’s post and thought i’d jump in.  i am also a fully-surrendered brother of JC.  you raised some great examples.  even Jesus himself embraced MGTOW during his time here on earth.  his real, pure bride is the body of all believers.  he wasted no time on any brutally flawed female in this world

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10997 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-10997 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 00:51:04 +0000 liventhedream Its pretty mainstream now days to bag the big three religions of the world. I am religious, but I don’t expose my beliefs on other people unless they ask (like this post).

The thing I can’t stand about people that love to hate on religious people is how hypercritical they can be. Like, your an idiot if your practice Muslim, Christian/Judaism but your ok if your religion is obscure or taboo. If your a into karma and Buddhism your just trying to better yourself. If you practice ooga-booga from the extinct people of x obscure place your open minded. If you are into Satanism your the poor oppressed eccentric, and should be applauded.

Most of the time though, its people that have a chip on there shoulder for whatever reason (some people legit felt oppressed by parents forcing their religion on them).

The people like Bill Nigh are just as annoying to me as the televangelist he’s arguing with. Its such a stupid point to argue, its metaphysics on a personal level. The argument will never have a resolution, its a waste of breath. People have been arguing (and war) about the metaphysical since the beginning of time and I don’t see that changing any time soon.

….however, lol,

Most mainstream religious sects have really been comfort molded (dr.schols style) to the old values and systems that most women take complete advantage of. Women want again all the perks of both genders. Take Christianity: No sex till marriage (except for the stud she cheats with while she dates the good guy), You have to pay all the bills but she gets to quit her job (and do zero household work), ect.

That’s my only problem certain religions, people like to wear them like a cloak to hide behind. They use the rules of the religion as leverage for there own interests. Women and men do, but women are the worst offenders (every day normal people, not the nut case fanatics).

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11002 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11002 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:01:46 +0000 Stargazer I was raised in the church but have since rejected the idea of a super-being who created the universe and cares whether I jerk off or not. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in some pretty weird s~~~ but that’s just a bit too much.

Anyway, my feeling is that faith is okay for a MGTOW, but being subservient to the church and a congregation and the values and objectives of that congregation (never heard of a church that advocated sex and was anti-marriage) is inconsistent with going your own way.

Read the various religious texts, pick and choose your own morals, believe in a grand architect or not as you desire, but if you let a preacher or a rabbi or a father tell you what is right and wrong for you, I can’t take you seriously when you say you’re going *your own* way.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11006 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11006 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 01:24:15 +0000 liventhedream @docfender

That’s exactly how I approach my beliefs, salad bar that s~~~. Take what you need and makes sense for you. Use your own mind and heart to figure out what you need….but again, what works for me has no bearing on what works for others. Some people need a social group to feel at peace with themselves, and there is not a thing at all wrong with that.

Only thing I stress is, use your mind and don’t impose (or do, but don’t complain if there are consequences and confrontations because of that). If your religious/non-religious beliefs require you to puke it all intravenous style on the people your talking to then its more like an attempt at validating your beliefs rather then self healing and discovery.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11025 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11025 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:55:35 +0000 YouWish As a MGTOW, I chose to go that way. God doesn’t have me on a leash. It was a choice. I can blow that off if I want to and go act the fool and that is also a choice. And I’ve done that, also.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11026 <![CDATA[Reply To: What's up at MGTOW USA ?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/whats-up-at-mgtow-usa/#post-11026 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 05:57:58 +0000 YouWish I would be way more apt to share great principles like cool did because there are some just KILLER bible verses that make vapid women’s heads explode, but the problem is that there is always an element that can’t stand even the use of scripture like that, even when it is extremely helpful as a teaching and validation tool.

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