Do you think that the whole, relatively new, attitude of getting rid of gender roles is the reason why women like to fight? Women like to hunt? Women like to drive big diesel pickup trucks?

What are your thoughts on this whole movement of getting rid of gender roles?

In my family there are no specific “gender roles” regarding jobs or house chores. I grew up seeing the women in my family (grandmother / aunt / mother) cooking, sewing, and cleaning the house as well as using the land mower or painting the house. On the other hand, all of us males know how to fix stuff in the house, mix concrete, and do minor construction work as well as cook, do the laundry and take care of our clothes. The point was to be able to be independent, regardless of gender.

Regarding to women practicing martial arts, I don’t have an issue with it. The only time I have a problem with that is when people insist on placing girls in male teams or make girls to face a boy in competition. Those cases are lose-lose situations for the boy, because if he “wins” the match, he won against a girl and therefore he is abusive and a bully. If he loses, he is a wimp. If women want to fight, let them fight another women.

Keep in mind, feminism and women nowadays are not “getting rid” of anything, they are enforcing 100 times, with MAN being responsible for EVERYTHING and women being RESPONSIBLE for NOTHING. Because despite women “choosing” all this previous “only men” related careers, they still want special treatment. Or else, why would they want for the standards that were putted there for men to be lowered to women? Because, according to the traditional gender roles, MEN provides and WOMEN receives, so if they CAN’T do something, it’s not up to them to WORK FOR IT, it is the job of the MEN, the PROVIDER, to hand it to HER.

So, yeah, gender roles? They were useful before technology, but now that machines can make women work on the (almost) same fields than men, those same roles are what destroyed gender relations. It is more than time for a new paradigm, and this time, WOMEN should be RESPONSIBLE for AT LEAST THEMSELVES for a change, or at the very least, STOP GETTING IN THE WAY of the new paradigm being created. How long does they expect this attack on male sexuality and MEN in general will be tolerated? How long this farce that are the “strong” and “independent” women of today will continue? Geez, be STRONG and INDEPENDENT already, and stop nagging to men!

That’s my take on gender roles. They are not being tossed away, they are being reinforced to the EXTREME.

Laundry – used to have to do it by hand…every garment you had to scrub over a washboard by hand, hang it to dry, and iron it.  Today, you literally spend 30 seconds throwing it in the washer, go watch tv for a half hour, 30 seconds throwing it in the dryer, go watch tv for another 45 minutes, then you take 5 minutes to fold it right out of the washer and you really don’t even need to iron anymore as long as you can fold it while its hot.

Cooking – Back when people used to make things from scratch and plan menus because not everyone had freezers…this was much more time consuming.  Today you literally toss a few things in a crock pot dinner is ready when you get home from work, or defrost a few chicken breasts/burgers and throw them on the grill, and microwave a few frozen/canned veges for sides.  A once a week trip to the grocery store is sufficient if you plan ahead a bit…cooking decent meals is nowhere near the task it used to be.

Sewing – society is throw away now.  Almost nobody patches jeans or sews shirts anymore…people just toss them and get new stuff.  Or things like knitting, crocheting, or making your own clothes/hats/gloves/blankets etc anymore…almost nobody does this.

Canning/preserving food – Again…this used to be a woman’s job while the man was out doing his s~~~…almost nobody does it anymore.  Its so much easier to just go to the local grocery store when stuff is on sale and stock up.

Gardening – See above.  Some people do it for a hobby, but I don’t know anybody that maintains a decent garden for the sole purpose of saving money or simply keeping fed out of necessity, like past generations have done.

Child care – How many women these days can’t stand the thought of being a stay at home mom and toss the kid in daycare and run back to work as soon as possible.  Quite honestly from a man’s perspective…its cheaper to just pay for daycare than to support a wife and pay for daycare.  If I planned on having kids just to toss them in daycare and not actually be raised by their family, I sure as hell wouldn’t need a wife around to do that.

I’m sure there are other things I could think of…but my general idea was that all the roles of women have been getting made more easy and/or simply replaced by modern technology and societies shift to being a throw away society.  If you were a man 100 years ago raising a family…a good wife was a valuable asset…I would actually consider a stay at home mom back then a full time job.  Today its a total joke…as soon as the kids are off to school I’d consider a stay at home wife at that point a 10 hour a week job maximum, yet all modern stay at home moms seem to think they have the most difficult job in the universe.

What makes it even worse is relative to how easy a woman’s role has gotten…a man’s has not improved nearly as much.  So basically modern women…they want me to do everything my grandfather did for the family, while they get away with doing 1/4 as much…unless you count complaining, they certainly do much more of that these days.  If there is one thing feminism really f~~~ed up for women, it was their efforts to blur gender roles…they were too stupid to realize how good they had it.

My take on gender roles is that the traditional women’s role has been rendered irrelevant due to modern society/technology.

Yep! I hope to live to see the day when I have a fem-bot for cooking, housework, and (ahem) other indoors chores, and a handyman-bot for repairs, maintenance and yard work. All purchased for about what a good used car or Rolex watch would cost.

I have a buddy of mine that is divorced but has a long time girl friend (8 years) that is a First Sergeant in the US Army.  I asked him what it was like to live with a complete Battle Axe once.  He related that his girlfriend does not bring her work home with her.  When she comes home they both share domestic tasks (cooking cleaning etc), but she is totally in touch with being a woman.  She defers to him and thanks him for his (manly) contributions around the house.  In other words, most or all of the things someone like Dr. Laura Schlessinger would say that a woman should be for her man.  They both still make mistakes and an argument can ensue as a result but they both haven’t lost track that respect and integrity (not love) is the foundation that their relationship is built on.  And she is a smoking 40 something in an evening dress.  I’m used to seeing her at her home with my buddy and bumped in to her at a quickie mart and didn’t even recognize her in uniform.  That is how profound the change is when she is off duty and goes home.

In other words, despite modern attitudes, she is an old school woman earning her own living in a predominately male occupation and is happy to be a woman.  A truly rare find.  I think when we talk about gender roles today, the paragraph above is more in line with a discussion of gender roles rather than domestic tasks.  The home is supposed to be the safe place in which you can be yourself.  Men are men.  Women are women.  We are both supposed to bring something to the table.  Otherwise we wouldn’t want or need each other till death do us part.  Or at least until someone calls an attorney.

I was and still am a firm believer in gender roles. Men are supposed to look and act like men, while women are supposed to look and act like women. These days, you see a big movement for women fighters. Not only in the UFC, but at many of the local MMA gyms located in almost every strip mall in America now. You even have young girls wrestling with the young boys in elementary school, middle school, and high school. You see youtube videos like “Look At My 12 Year Old Daughter Submit This 12 year old Boy in her Brazilian Jiu Jitsu match.” Do you think that the whole, relatively new, attitude of getting rid of gender roles is the reason why women like to fight? Women like to hunt? Women like to drive big diesel pickup trucks? What are your thoughts on this whole movement of getting rid of gender roles?

The first thing Feminist sought to destroy was the notion of gender roles.  Why?  Because their belief was that these gender roles that cast women as “barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen”  was a form of slavery.  The divorce rate among married couples pre 1950’s was much, much, much lower than it is today.

It has played a significant role in the destruction of the family.  Women still (at a subconscious level) believe that the man should be the primary provider.  Ask them… how many of them would be engaged in a SERIOUS relationship with a man who made significantly less money that she did…. I bet the percentage is less than 10%.