So Mark meets This girl ( a co-worker, whom His now Ex-Wife works for the same company) They start dating, didn’t really work out that well, He breaks up with Her. A month passes by, She calls Him up and says She has something Important to say to Him…..Yup, She’s Pregnant. Then Mark says the quintessential line every blue pill trap set up for a Man says: “She said she was on the pill”. I can’t believe what the f~~~ I am hearing. They go to the clinic, and sure enough, all the tests are positive for this Pregnancy (if it’s His, only time will tell). Not only is He paying child support, and Alimony, but He has a Love Child on the way. So Mark’s Ex-Wife finds out, She goes BAT S~~~, like total BAT S~~~, She confronts this girl (because, remember they work for the same company) and a full on cat fight ensues, His Ex-Wife is P~~~ed because there’s some sort of History between these Women in the past, I’m not sure what or why. But Now His visitation rights now may be in jeopardy because His Ex-Wife doesn’t like the Ex-girlfriend. Mark showed Me the Texts from His Ex-Wife and one of them said: “I’m going to f~~~ing kill you, and I HOPE YOU DIE”. So to add insult to injury His Ex-Girlfriend who is now Pregnant with His Child, doesn’t want any part of Him, because She feels “He’s not an honest Man” and says: “I don’t want you in my Child’s life”, yeah just rub the salt in the wounds.If that’s not f~~~ed up enough, She’s also telling Him about how much Sex She’s being getting and how awesome it feels to be 4 months Pregnant and to be getting “F~~~ed by all sorts of dicks”. Then Mark has the naive thing to say: “I can’t believe She’s pregnant with my Child, and is having Sex with random Men”. To think that Women are these innocent docile creatures is absolutely insulting, the only reason why I know some Women can/do f~~~ guys while they’re pregnant is because a Friend of Mine who was in the Army after coming Home from a deployment in Iraq caught His Wife fooling around with numerous Men during Her entire pregnancy, with the proof of photos, emails, text messages, sex tapes, (My Army friend is also a MGTOW now). Now, you might be asking, Could Mark’s Ex-Girlfriend be lying to Him just to manipulate Him?, of course!, However I don’t put it past any Woman to stoop that low.

Not only is He getting hit mentally, financially, from His Ex-Wife (who was just diagnosed with having bipolar last year), but now from His Ex-Girlfriend who wants Him to pay child support. Both Women are using these physiological bulls~~~ tactics to f~~~ His mind. Growing up, Mark always needed a Woman’s assurance or Love and Acceptance, He was a latchkey Kid in which both His parents hardly gave Him attention or Love. I do feel examples like these make me feel the MGTOW life is for Me all the way. To have a Psycho Ex-Wife and Ex-Girlfriend who only see you as a Sperm Donor or “Vaginamony” should shake any Man to His core. After Listening to my Buddy Mark I felt that giving any sort of input or advice up to this point would be useless. Why?, because given previous experiences I’d give Him advice on certain things, money, Women, were never taken into consideration, So I felt I was only there to listen to His problem and let Him rant. The only advice I did give was, document the threats made against Him via email or text messages by His Ex-Wife, and when the Kid is Born from His Ex-Girlfriend, have a Paternity test done. It sucks to see Men fall for this trap. So in closing, I leave you with this, “A Wise Man learns from His mistakes, A wiser Man learns from other people’s mistakes”.

Why would she be p~~~ed? She’s his f~~~ing EX WIFE. Ex. Done. Gone. F~~~ off. She has no f~~~ing say in anything – and he’s sending her a check every month to GET THE F~~~ OUT OF HIS LIFE. Permanently. She texts: “I’m gonna kill you and I hope you f~~~ing DIE”? is only something she can say when she’s is wife. But she’s not anymore.

Send a text back: “I’m not your husband anymore. I don’t have to listen to you.”
That would send her right over the edge.

Other possible text responses:
• ‘You hope? You are beyond hope”.
• “I love it when you hate me.”
• “You never said you were funny.”

“I hope you f~~~ing die”. Of course she does. A failure of wife would have to send a text like that. I don’t give a s~~~ if she is “bi-polar”. She’s not “bi-polar” she’s a WOMAN. There’s your diagnosis.

You don’t even need to be MGTOW to see it. The first time I heard the word “bi-polar” it was from a female who basically got ditched at the altar. It was a few years ago. She said he’s “bi polar”. Anything to rationalize away the reality he just didn’t want to marry her. “Bi Polar” my ass. You can give a woman 101 excellent reasons why he won’t step up to the altar. But she thinks “nah, he’s bi polar. There couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with me”. The level of insanity is off the charts.

Although stories like this are not actually “the” reason you (or I) are MGTOW, they certainly give you a front row seat to the ponzi scheme horror show – with 3D glasses.

I have (had) a friend (let’s call him “Mark” too…) who was a good buddy for over 25 years – since before I had hair one between my legs. He’s married with two kids and writes me one day to ask me to show him how to change passwords to his email because he’s sick of his wife reading them. Wow. Can I have a marriage like that? Where do I sign up?

We went out for drinks one night and his “wife” starts trying to set me up with her over-the-hill single fat friends. I’m just smiling and nodding. She starts telling me about one of them who’s looking to get married. So to get her to knock it off, I ask “oh really? How much does she weigh?”. I thought she was gonna start crying. When she went to the ladies room, he’s like “man when are you gonna get married? You gotta start thinking about it”.

“I have thought about it, Mark. And when you wrote me to have your wife removed from sticking her nose into your emails (and business) because you were sick of it….. I knew signing a marriage contract is the LAST thing I ever wanted to do. Thank you. Stay miserable on your own and stop shoving your bulls~~~ in my face. I want no part of a marriage like yours.”

It was required to shut them up and the last time I spoke with him. Their 10 year “anniversary” is coming up in a couple of years. And that means lifetime alimony. It’s only a matter of time before I get an email from him with his hat in his hands wondering what the f~~~ he’s gonna do. I will be so numb to it I just won’t be able to empathize.

Tick tock. Tick tock.

But she can have many men in and out of her bedroom, with or without the kids knowing..and is vindictive enough to have one of them suckers play step daddy…

I too am baffled as to why Mark’s Ex Wife would freak out and just completely lose it and some excellent points were made by the way on pointing them out. So, Today Mark calls Me up during lunch break at work, He tells Me He wants to go bash some Dude’s head in, because He thinks A Guy is sleeping with His Ex Girlfriend. (here we f~~~ing go), She told Him today, “I’m going to f~~~ a guy in the same bed you f~~~ed me and got Me pregnant in”. Mark completely loses it, and started going off. I tried to explain that, a tactic like that is older then the hills, and Women use that to manipulate, lie, cheat, or get their way for you to come back to them, like sheep lead to the slaughter. And furthermore I said: “why would you beat up some random dude if you don’t even know Him?”, For starters, This Kid might not even be yours, because let’s face it, you weren’t with this chic 24/7 you don’t have absolute proof this kid is yours until it pops out. Secondly, if she wants to f~~~ some guy, GO RIGHT AHEAD, who gives 2 s~~~s what She does, obviously She loves the mind-F~~~ games, therefor she’s not worth your time, based on My own personal experience, Women who play those type of games are usually psychopaths and need to be avoided at all cost. I seriously don’t know what happened to Mark, after His first Marriage failed He turned into this Sissified Male that needed constant Female approval and acceptance which is pathetic because He owned His own house by 22, dated gorgeous Women in High school, and after the first Marriage ended He totally changed, it’s as if His first Wife Emasculated Him. We hardly hang out now because He whines and complains and it just gets old after awhile. Funny how you mention the date with a fat girl, a friend of mine’s wife tried to set me up on a blind date a few weeks back and I declined because I told her that her friends are either complete bitches or uglier then Sin, I eventually saw a picture of the girl they wanted me to go on a blind date with and I was glad I declined. I feel that everyone Woman is Bi-Polar, and that there is two sides to every Woman. If pushed to the brink, they display more ruthless and twisted evils then Men ever could imagine. (putting their kids in the trunk of a car then sinking it at the bottom of a lake, stabbing a former lover in the shower 150 times) This s~~~ is endless.

Oh and here’s the kicker, Mark’s Ex Girlfriend? The one allegedly carrying His Child?, lives just a few blocks down the road from His Ex Wife….Yeah, Talk about a “WTF Moment”. I couldn’t wrap my mind around that, So after Work I went to see the movie “Gone Girl”, and all I gotta say is, WOW!. David Fincher made a pretty damn good portrayal of a psycho bitch, I think it’s a cautionary tale for every young man, or any man to watch and learn from. Only reason why I wanted to see it is because a bunch of c~~~s I work with were talking about how Misogynistic the film was. that’s what made me want to see it.

@torch1980

Yeah it’s crazy what some Ex Wives expect from their Ex Husbands as far as who they can cannot date, I use to work with a guy who’s ex wife still controlled Him. She would tell Him to break up with certain girls He constantly gets text messages, not only threatening His life, but shaming language as well, “you suck in bed, your penis is small, you never made me cum” that type of bulls~~~. His Ex and now Ex girlfriend I swear are cut from the same psycho cloth. Some women need to come with Warning Labels.

She told Him today, “I’m going to f~~~ a guy in the same bed you f~~~ed me and got Me pregnant in”.

Ho ho ho ho ho , boy….. this is starting to get funny now. You’re right, that’s as old as the hills. Leave it to a woman to not just DO something. She wants recognition for doing it BEFORE she does it, and has to announce it before hand. Four year olds are like that in Kindergarten. “IM GONNA TELL ON YOU!!!”. Jesus Christ. She’s still a child herself.

But I will never understand WTF guys are doing going off on the dude she screws. The sex doesn’t happen unless SHE wants it to. Just like every unwanted pregnancy is a woman’s fault 100% of the time… (yeah, really think about that one for a few seconds)… so too is every sex act only happening because SHE wants it to. Why guys brandish fists and guns (in movies) on “the other guy” is so far off the mark.

I’m going to f~~~ a guy in the same bed you f~~~ed me and got Me pregnant in

That ALMOST sounds good.
Except… she allowed HERSELF to get pregnant. And that’s what he should have told her.
(I almost want to be Mark in this situation just to f~~~ with her head.)

Before I hung up, I told Him that He needs to take a paternity test after this Kid is born and make damn sure He covers His ass. Cause right now, I told him “dude, you’re f~~~ed in every direction, she needs to tell her folks, and you need to do the same as well“. I just hope the advice I’ve given Him thus far will be used and not thrown away. Having an Ex Wife is hell itself but two women nagging and one of them Pregnant plus nagging must be God awful torture.

Here in France, only the justice can decide for a DNA test (usually, because the woman asks) -> a man can refuse to do this DNA test if he really thinks he’s not the father. But if he refuses, the french justice will say that HE IS the father (this downright refusal means that the man is guilty).

It’s also “legal” in the US for everyone to KNOW that he is not the father, and he can be forced to pay child support for a kid that’s not even his. There are men in prison for that RIGHT NOW. Not only is it “legal”, it’s unconstitutional and forced slavery:

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/paternity-fraud/

That just p~~~es me off. This is why you DO NOT date a single mother under ANY circumstances. You take her and her kid to Disney World (or buy the kid a little Birthday present)…… and BAM(!) you “acted like the father” and you will now be ordered to pay for a kid that’s not even yours. If she has more than one child, you are paying for them too. It’s disgusting, unconstitutional, and forced slavery.

Stay the f~~~ away from single mothers. They are the Ebola in the dating world.

“MarK” in the above story is basically F~~~ED.

It’s also “legal” in this country for a woman to allow herself to get pregnant without a man’s consent.

BUT he still has an out. She can take your money, but you can’t be forced to be “the father”. So, you look her dead in the face and tell her “OK. Maybe you will get my money, but you and your bastard child will NEVER – EVER – see me again. Starting right now.” and then EXIT. If your delivery is good and you do it right, she will quickly realize her little “plan” to trap you into fatherhood against your own will has failed… and you have just multiplied your chances that she will run out and get an abortion by the end of the week.

Realize, women treat “children” like property, and they use them as leverage for their own selfish ends with no regard for the child’s well-being. How could they be fit to parent, if they want sole custody and fight in court over sole visitation to deny the child access to one of the parents? That’s inhumane and unacceptable. Any woman who does that (but still happily takes his f~~~ing money) is unfit to parent. Punto Finito.

She allowed herself to get pregnant to get her claws into his wallet and life. If she gets your money, MAKE SURE you deny her access to your LIFE. She doesn’t give a s~~~ about you, your wishes, or your “rights”. As far as she is concerned, you don’t have any. So it’s time to play hardball. When you absolutely enforce that she will play no role in it, her “plan” failed. The child never meant anything to her anyway.

It’s extreme. But it works.

We had a french minister of justice here called Rachida Dati.

She is really hot as she had more than 8 relations at the same time with an actor, a business man, a president etc …

She had a baby and she asked for a maintenance allowance to Dominique Desseigne (CEO of Casinos Lucien Barriere), a very important and rich man.

This guy refused to do the DNA test as he explained that the woman had multiple sex relations when he f~~~ed her. The french justice decided that he IS the father and he has to pay more than 3000 USD every month to Rachida. Well done girl !

French article : http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2014/10/07/01016-20141007ARTFIG00297-fille-de-rachida-dati-la-justice-reconnait-la-paternite-de-dominique-desseigne.php

Buddies, please : use condoms or you’re f~~~ed up.

I’ve seen too many Men trapped by the pussy and kids to know that I don’t want to fall in that same snare as well. It’s like that old joke about the women who sees her shrink about her sex with her husband and how he always turns off the light just before they have sex, the therapist tells the woman to run during sex to the light switch and turn it on. The women does it one night, runs to the light switch and sees her husband using a strap on, the wife is shocked and disgusted and tells her husband “bob, how could you!?!?”. The Husband replied: “okay, i can explain this, but how the hell do you explain the two kids?!!!”.