If I may offer a word of advice about the “friend zone”… females do not put us in the friend zone, we put ourselves there. We see a woman we are attracted to and we attempt to get close to her but she brushes us off. Now at this point, only a total aspie with no mirror neurons at all would not be aware that she is NOT INTERESTED in having an intimate relationship with us… but we want them so badly that we construct a fiction for ourselves that we aren’t really after sex, we just like them and want to be friends. That is how the friend zone is created.

So then we act nice to them and pay them attention and shower them with support and resources and they soak it up. Of course they know we want something from them but they also know we are afraid to openly ask for it out of fear of rejection and losing that slim chance that they keep stringing us along with in order to keep soaking up all our time, energy and resources.

So the females are complicit and aware, but it’s us men who weave the lie that we can be just friends with someone we actually want to be intimate with so it is we who are to blame.

If you want to avoid the friend zone, you must do the following. Next time you see a female that you are attracted to, approach her right away and spend at least five minutes interacting with her about nothing. “Hi, I’m Bob, what brings you to this fine bar, city, planet tonight?” And let her talk. Doesn’t matter what she says, watch her body language. If she’s facing you, looking into your eyes, smiling, touching her hair and then touches your arm, chances are she wants you (does not apply to bartenders, waitresses and shop staff, strippers, etc. they just want your money). If she does few or none of these things, she does not want you.

After the five minutes are up, if you’re getting three or more clear signals of interest, tell her you are going to go have a drink and she should join you RIGHT THEN. If you’re under 21, tell her you’re going some place where you can get a drink and one for her too. If you can’t do even that, you shouldn’t be trying to get laid anyway, kiddo… give it a few years and then try again when you have access to booze. A drink or two relaxes inhibitions and gives a girl cover… Plausible Deniability… so that she can let herself do what she wants to do without feeling slutty about it. Do not offer smoke or drugs… high girls do not want to have sex with you, they just want you to pay for their drugs… and now you’re just trying to buy her ass with dope and that’s lame, go get a pro and save everyone the time and trouble. And if you’re trying to get a female s~~~ty drunk or thinking about rufies or something, turn yourself in and seek professional help now. You are a rapist. Enough said about that… moving along.

Now you’ve made your offer and are about to leave the scene either with her or without her, that’s key. If she acts shocked by your directness and says no then say “Well I’m going for a drink so either join me now or maybe I’ll see you down the road, I’m a regular.” Then walk. No numbers, no facebook, don’t even ask her name. Just walk. If she follows, take her with. If not, keep walking.

If, on the other hand, you aren’t getting any signs of interest after five minutes, just say “Well, it was nice talking with you.” then turn and WALK AWAY! Thats it. No names, no numbers, no hand shakes or second chances of social media links or look backs and definitely no regrets. Don’t even bank it. You did your best and that’s all you could do. Forget her and move on.

Now, if you truly want a female friend that you can dump your time, effort and money onto and maybe cuddle with in a vaguely creepy and totally unsatisfying way, then find someone you’re not at all hot for and hang out with her… but if what you’re really after is to get into a chick’s panties, you should know within five minutes of meeting her if it’s going to happen or not… then create a chance for it to happen or get the f~~~ out. Go talk to some other girl where this one can see you doing it. Let them know you are not afraid of rejection and will not be intimidated or treated like a simp. Do this long enough several times a week (for a few weeks) and you will start to make connections.

Just don’t bulls~~~ yourself and don’t bulls~~~ her. You want her? Make her know it and give her the choice to be with you or not. The friend zone is a no-man’s land of liars and losers and rying to sneak into a sexual relationship through it is foolish and delusional.

It’s INTERNATIONAL MGTOW DAY!!!

…and we are counting down!

That’s how I’m talking about it too:

“Say, what are you doing for International MGTOW Day? I think I’m going to buy myself something nice.”

F~~~ing pass it on!
And welcome to MGTOW.

I would agree with Doc completely about the friendzone. Although I have not really been shot down and placed there as brutally as some of my other brothers, (I successfully avoided it like a social disease)…. it is too easy to allow women to do this to you, because they are not even aware they are doing it themselves. Half the time, the friend zone is an innocent mistake and you think your not harming yourself. But it’s very bad for you.

EXAMPLE:

One ex who I haven’t spoken to in many years saw I was on Facebook years ago but I never friended her. I had all these mutual friends on it – except her. She sent me a bunch of friend requests but I never responded or accepted any of them. She had HUNDREDS of “friends”. Then one day I got an email “hey! if you want to add me on Facebook…..”

(cleverly worded , don’t you think? “if YOU want to friend me…” as if it would be MY idea)

On the surface, it looks innocent , and you might be inclined to say “why not?” but there are a MILLION reasons why not, and the first reason is just the way she asked! (Slippery ego-maniac bitch. “if YOU want to friend me…” Please!) Even if she had said “I so badly want to be in touch” but she didn’t. She wanted +1 orbiter for her collection and she knows I am not the type. I never responded. No friend request. And every day her email was unanswered, it was driving her MAD. I kept interacting with other mutual friends and she could see the lols and comments with my name on them, but she was never going to get the satisfaction out of tossing me into her friend’s bin thinking I WANT to be there. No f~~~ing way. She can offer to blow me, and even then, I’m not going in her friend’s bin.

Now I am not even on that piece of s~~~ facenbook anymore – for almost 4 years now. She can’t even keep tabs on me remotely. That’s just one example.

The vid could be a short introdction to the co-opting of that particular date followed by a series of news-style interviews with individual MGTOWs about their plans for that special date.

“So Joe, what are your special plans for International MGTOW Day?”

“Well Bob…I am treating myself to a nice rib-eye dinner followed by a good single malt scotch at the cigar bar.  Then I will head to the strip club for a hooter review followed by 3 hours of debauchery with a pair of $500/night prostitutes.  Then I am going to IHOP and eat pancakes.”

This has potential written all over it!

Strike that. A new Millennium.

We’re gonna take submissions from members just like you suggest.
“What are your planes for International MGTOW Day?”

Then we will cycle through them like a slide show.

• “Gonna buy myself a BIG Bunch of roses”
• “Gonna buy myself a RoleX Daytona. Black face. $12,000”
• “Gonna treat my car to a $300 detail”
• “Gonna buy myself some expensive shoes”
• “Gonna buy a whopping 60-inch 4K TV”

… you get the idea.

Everything but wasting money on women. Not only are we going to “boycott Valentine’s Day”… we’re gonna f~~~ing RENAME it . It doesn’t f~~~ing EXIST anymore.

Women are actually so selfish that they would rather allow a child slave to die in Africa (where diamonds come from) than give up just one of their precious Valentine’s Day presents and extravagant meals. Women ruined Feb 14th with their selfishness.

According to some commercials I’ve seen, it costs only pennies a day to improve the lives of impoverished African children. Pennies a day is a maximum of four pennies. If it cost five pennies a day to save starving children, then they would just say a “nickel” because that’s shorter to say, and the saved commercial air time could be turned into food.

13.7 billion dollars will be wasted this year on Valentine’s Day to please and appease women JUST so she can get a gift out of OBLIGATION because it says FEB 14 on the calendar. …. divided by four pennies is 342 trillion starving African children. I don’t need to check a globe to know there are less than that many starving African children in Africa. There aren’t even that many starving African children in the whole world.

You see my point. That princess you’re buying a puppy for next month is taking a puppy’s worth of meals out of the mouths of kids halfway across the world. And she loves every second of it. Here’s another statistic I found:

The average amount a man will spend on Feb 14th is $134.62
The average amount a woman spends is $65.64

(Isn’t that called a pay gap?)

Women don’t even know how expensive flowers are. A dozen roses is like eighty dollars. Does it make her a whore because it’s over forty bucks? Don’t be absurd. It makes her a whore for accepting them in the first place. If women were really so packed full of compassion and nurturing, then the most wasteful holiday of the year wouldn’t be dedicated to them. If women were stuffed with any caring at all, Valentine’s Day would be about volunteering at the local homeless shelter. It would be about buying a star and naming it after her, except instead of a star it would be a short bus full of starving African kids.

Valentine’s Day is the biggest waste in history.
But who cares? Women sure don’t. They’re selfish as hell.

If you want to find out exactly how selfish a woman is, don’t do ANYTHING for her on FEB 14th. Nothing. Then on Feb 15th, offer to do something nice – like buy her a cheeseburger. The % of p~~~ed off she is… is the % of selfish bitch she is.

I’m gonna start a big dedicated thread on this on JAN 14th where members can chime in on what they are doing for INTERNATIONAL MGTOW DAY. So get your creative juices flowing.

On a more somber note, I absolutely agree with everything you mentioned about the perspective (or lack thereof) that most wimmen have.  Seriously, it disturbs me to the core of my soul to see any child in need or suffering.  That is my Achilles heel.

Well Bob… I am treating myself to a nice rib-eye dinner followed by a good single malt scotch at the cigar bar. Then I will head to the strip club for a hooter review followed by 3 hours of debauchery with a pair of $500/night prostitutes. Then I am going to IHOP and eat pancakes.

I actually laughed out loud. Unfortunately you can’t go to a good steak house in Las Vegas on MGTOW day because all the females think they’re bosses now and want to eat up the steak and smoke and drink the cigars and scotch themselves. So places like Herbs & Rye and the Golden Steer do s~~~ty set menus and run themselves ragged.

As for me, I’m gonna get a new tire carrier and trailer brake controller for my jeep… and if I’m lucky, my new teardrop trailer will arrive… and then I’ll take myself and my telescope out to drink champagne and look at the stars. I can’t wait for the cashier at the liquor store to look at the $200 bottle of Dom and be impressed… “Ooh, someone’s going to be a happy lady tonight!” “Nu-uh, sister… it’s all for me and maybe I’ll pour some out for comet Lovejoy.”

Bookmarked your suggestion and will be collecting them for the feature!

Next time you’re here, give me a shout. I’m not proposing a MGTOW meet up or anything (feminists would feel the disturbance in the force if more than one of us was knowingly in the same place at the same time) but I’m always happy to have visitors and an excuse to go romp around a casino for an evening.