• I cook between 8 and 12 meals a week which take from 30 to 60 minutes each.
• I clean the kitchen and do the dishes after every meal and several times in-between as necessary.
• I do two to three loads of laundry per week… wash, fold and put away.
• I take out the garbage when the can is full (every three days or so).
• I shop for groceries once a week plus shopping for fresh meats and produce on nights that I’m cooking.
• I clean out the refrigerator and cabinets once every few weeks to keep things fresh.
• I purchase bottled water and haul it back to the house for storage.
• I vacuum, dust and straighten furniture as required, maybe once a week (cat hair adds up).
• I retrieve the mail daily and packages as they arrive.
• I open, process and pay bills for the household.
• I drop off, pick up and put away the dry cleaning (dress shirts, silk shirts and sweaters, mostly) once every two weeks.
• I water the plants twice a week.
• I feed and water the cat twice a day.
• I scoop the cat litter once every two days and clean the box entirely once every two weeks.
• I clean the patio furniture once per month.
• I sweep out and arrange my storage space (garage) once per month.
• I fuel up and wash the car once a week.

On top of this, I pay a girl $50 once a month to come in and clean the stove top, the bathrooms and the shower, plus vacuum and dust the places I may have missed. This is my total housekeeping routine. In my mind, all of this housekeeping work takes up a tiny fraction of my time on a daily basis… and not only do I not see any of this work as being burdensome or difficult in any way, but doing it gives me exercise and a sense of pride of ownership of my home and belongings, not to mention social interaction when I’m out and healthy delicious food and drinks when I’m preparing my own meals. The only part of the entire thing that’s even remotely difficult is putting the duvet back in its cover and that’s only once every month and takes about ten minutes.

So my question is this… why why WHY in the world would I ever invite a female into my home with the expectation that I would be financially better off if I had someone to do these things for me? Let’s say I got married and expected the female to be a housewife. I do all the work and pay all the bills and, in exchange, she does all the above housework. I’m not counting sex because that’s good for both of us (often better for her than for me) so she gets no more credit for sex than she would for sitting next to me while we watched a movie.

My job is to work 30 to 60 hours a week (depending on my work load) and pay for everything and, in exchange, she does maybe three hours of cooking and light house work per day. And to keep her here, I need more space, a second car, additional insurance, more food and more consumables (females tear through toilet paper at a furious rate).

How do females figure that keeping house is worth $50k a year? 25 hours of housework a week (she’s gotta clean up her own mess too, to be fair) by $25 an hour is still only $32k… her half of the rent, bills, food, insurance and a car payment is worth almost that. Throw in some minor expenses and maybe a birthday gift once a year and I’m net negative… plus having to share my space and my time and attention on a female which would diminish my ability to do my work, enjoy my hobbies and see my friends.

In other words… I don’t see how having a housewife could possibly be worth it. Now, if she can pull down $150k a year and she pays for her own car, food, expenses and insurance and we go in halvsies on a house twice the size and can split expenses on entertainment and travel, then maybe I could see it. But how many of us are in that kind of a relationship? Oh, I imagine that’s what they promised… “we’ll save money and with a dual income, we can live twice as well” but then she got fat and lazy and “lost” her job… how many of us are living THAT reality? And then kids…

Honestly, why do men DO these things? The girl I pay to clean my house lives with a man who is paying all her bills and she doesn’t do s~~~ at their place… and she brought three big dogs along with her. The more I think about it, the more boggled I get… I just can’t get my head around what men are thinking when they make these kinds of s~~~ deals. Are they really just paying for the pussy? Don’t they realize you can get even that for a few hundred bucks a pop without any of the bulls~~~? Seriously. Someone help me understand this because I’m not getting it.

My best friend who I mention here often started doing this analysis in the early 90’s. got out the legal pads and a bottle of Jack one night and started adding it all up and within about an hour we both looked at our lives and said “f~~~ man my girlfriend costs 40 thousand dollars a year.” Bunch of bull. Not worth it.

I only met two women on their 20s or 30s that had a house of their own who kept her house as well as me or better, who were also professionals. There were some who lived like pigs: clothes everywhere, everything dirty, eating crappy food (you may get away with it in your 20s but not in your 30s or 40s, unless you want to look like an actual pig)..

My point is that except the ocassional sex, that always decline in quality and quality over time, I don’t see what else the average western woman on the 2010’s bring to the table…. except a huge liability. Sure, I date sometimes and f~~~ them when I can, but to have them living over on my house or to marry them? heck no!

P.S. See my fridge, that’s the way to keep yourself healthy

“Commensurate” meaning if you as an employee or business owner provide a service, should expect to be compensated in a manner which is commensurate with the value of that service…. and then he analyses it breaking down the traditional exchange of sex for resources and how this doesn’t even come close to alleviating the pressures and stress of a man’s 70 hour work week.

For me, it’s the whole Security for Sex equation that is at the heart of the problem. The logical fallacy of suggesting that sexual access to her body is the item of value that females bring to the bargaining table is based on the false notion that females do not want nor enjoy sex.

In fact, the opposite is true. Females derive equal or greater value from the act of sex than men do… but they have artificially elevated the perceived scarcity of this desire and enjoyment in order to extract greater value in trade from men in the form of financial resources and security.

Arguing about the value of sex in a male/female relationship is like arguing about the value of conversation. Sex is NOT compensation, commensurate or otherwise, in the context of a relationship and any man who thinks he is getting something of value by trading his resources for sex in any measure is a fool.

Our real objective should be to break the cartel’s control over our perception of the trade value of sex and recognize the truth about the value proposition between men and females… that the value we bring is and always has been attention, shelter, sustenance and protection and that the only value that females bring are the ability to produce offspring and to serve as an indicator of the level of a man’s success.

Feminism and the Women’s Equality movement has weakened the value of the shelter and sustenance that we offer but the value of our attention and protection remain as high as ever. The sad fact for females, however, is that now, since men care less and less about offspring and have other ways to indicate their success, the value of what a female can offer is dropping like a stone.

Note: paying a prostitute is not exchanging money for sex. The sex should be mutually pleasurable. What you are exchanging money for in this case is for her, literally, to go away when the sex is done. You’re paying for 100% protection against responsibility, liability and attempted further resource extraction by the female.

In summary; unless you want a child or have a need to signal your wealth by collecting females and showing other men that you can provide for and protect them, a female is INCAPABLE of compensating you for the value you give to her above and beyond that which is equally exchanged in the course of a relationship such as sex, companionship, conversation, etc.

you know, I always find amazing anytime I go out with a woman on a date, and she start listing all the “musts” that his guy must have:

He has to be responsible but fun, over 6 feet tall, college educaton, nice but “not too much”, good income, have to accept me for who I am [Translation: he has to put up with all my s~~~], will have to respect my independence (translation: will let me go to vegas with other girls to f~~~ other men), supportive (translation: will give me cash), someone who will spoil her (more cash)… anyway, you guys now the list.

I always like to turn the tables and ask her: “okay, I understand, these are all things you want and all the things you want the man to do for you… now let me ask you: What can you do for a man? what do you offer to him?”

They always have like a “deer on the headlights” look, sometimes they say something like, well I am always very passionate and take care of him. Again I ask them, okay, so besides let him have sex with you once in a while, what else do you do for your man?… will you help him on his business, will you cook for him, will you clean, will you help cover expenses, will you help him save money…. sell me why a man should take you.

Then you get the deer look times 10

I am laughing so hard right now that “deer in headlights” look is real i got that so many times. Man , How the heck did we get here ? I am extremely new to MGTOW and i have a lot to learn. In my relationship i pay for every thing basically other than utilities which are light and water. I demand that my wife cook and clean because thats how i was raised she complains that it tires her out but now iam going to run my thing the MGTOW way . And provide for myself ive given up too much for nothing in return. I really feel ive wasted time in this relationship. Really i have…

I always knew something was wrong : But you know i was raised like this,  man must provide for his woman and family and i was even told to encourage her to stay home and be the housewife that that is the ideal way. I beleived this all my life. In a way now that i think about it i feel a bit embarassed that i beleived these things. Because when you get a chance to look at them its just some s~~~. And it is used to further the feminization of our society and make men more redundant.

The thing about the western world is our political and social acceptance of Capitalism is great in comparison to many eastrern societies….. The problem is men dont fuel Capitalism because they dont buy anything or have need to buy anything..

Society uses Womens Vain, Catty , Manipulating ,Selfish and Childish , Insecure nature to fuel Capitalism… And in exchange to offer protection under the Law. In marriage and out of Marriage(common Law after 5 years in Jamaica where i am from) So its like society tells us its good that a woman can find a workhorse to provide her with the necessary cash needed to support her Self centered lifestyle and if this workhorse should one day try to get up and leave we have measures in place that he will have to give up half of what he has so that you can continue wasting his resources with us. Corporations benefit from both the feminist viewpoint as well as the traditionalist viewpoint because both put females on point and in control. Because realy if it were the other way around things would be different. The pressure we face is not just from women it is from the Larger society on a whole.

It is the pressure to acknowledge that our contribution to Humankind is only measureable in how hard we work and how much money we make as a result. Our woman is there to ensure that we waste our money and time and labour by putting it back in the Pseudo Capitalist matrix . Yeah iam all for no housewives and saving money. And its seems that doing it the MGTOW way is the only way to actually do it.The purpose of all women ive met is to just go along with me for a good ride while getting bills and expenses and vacations paid while having more options open up for them as a result. And how women love options, Its not even that they like the fact that they can make the best possible choice just the fact that many choices are available is enough for them. At that point they then make the dumbest choice and fall back on the others.

Like a lady i went to college with the other day migrated for a job on a small island . We were very good friends in college. And i was “In love” i told myself that one day we would be together even though she had a BF i was her best friend and eventually she would figure this out and true love would prevail. S~~~!!! she left for this job overseas so that plan didnt work. Of course i maintained contact through email and expensive phone calls because of the hope of one day marrying her. (Needless to say she was and still is freaking hot) but had a innocent humble nature about her unlike the usual hot girl who’s s~~~ can make brownies. She was humble and kind and thoughtful or so i thought. Anyway i maintained contact and she met some guy on that island after about a year of visiting back and forth and being friends only… I waited and she told me she broke up with the guy . So i made my long awaited move and proposed. She said yes .. When she came back home to visit we were making wedding plans only i noticed she was being distant secret phonecalls at night not wanting to spend time with me or making every excuse not to . Easily annoyed by my presence tell tale signs of some adulterous s~~~ i saw that . She went back i emailed asking whats the problem months no answer a year no answer. I truly considered her my friend. i eventully saw a response in email . I got knocked up by my ex i am so ashamed right now. i said i dont care we are friends right? I tried to console etc. Another 3 years no response. Of course when she came home during the summers and christmas i knew nothing. So i was married already by then etc. And one day i said to myself what the heck let me send an email.. She replied she misses me she has been thinking about me she had suppressed her feelings for me all this time , She needs me she is lonely, It didnt work out with the guy though she has his kid. She had to take him to a lawyer for child support . His family hates her, She hates him, he was abusive she only has two friends left. Nobody likes her . She misses me . She wants us to be together forever and she is sorry and realizes she made a mistake…

I never did f~~~ her and i would try to get some of that pussy  going forward i always wanted it. However i would like some opinions on this woman from some MGTOW brothers.

Should i take advantage of her seemingly current state of vulnerability? And get some of that chocolate brown 34-26 -38 pussy

Should i tell her  bon voyage (Missed the boat)

Should i try a new life with this seemingly new changed woman lol …

Really i dont care what anyone says am going to try to get some pussy but it would be interesting to hear your comments is all im saying ..

More life …

“Honey, shut up. I’m taking the dog for a walk. Go in the closet and recharge yourself. You’ll need full batteries to do my shopping and cooking.”

“Yes dear.”