MGTOWThank you very much for being here, MGTOW – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 11:52:23 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/page/426/#post-26385 <![CDATA[Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/page/426/#post-26385 Sat, 28 Feb 2015 18:45:38 +0000 Resh Hello,
I signed up for this site earlier in the week, sorry for the late intro. I am not very good at these things, but I will do my best to tell you a little about me. I am 53, medically retired with cardiomyopathy, one son of four children, (raised with 3 sisters,) and my mom was a heavy drinking martyr-type of testicle-eating bitch. If that seems like Hyperbole to you, then please be assured that it is every bit true, and understated at best. My father was basically her ‘hit-man’ so when we disagreed, I came out on the losing end every time as a kid. I don’t blame her for what I am today, I put it here because it shaped the ‘mangina neurosis’ I have subjected myself to in ignorance for decades. I even voted against my own personal political convictions and attended churches (can be interpreted as ‘pandering to pussy’ if you like) to please a woman. Why? I was responding to the enculturation and family values of the time; I had nothing to compare it to. Then I swore off relationships in 1985 and endured quite a lot of criticism from the circle of friends I kept at the time. I have never been married and have no children, and when asked, I previously used to tell people I was thinking about the Catholic priesthood, because that answer circumvented a lot of needless conversations with even the best critical thinkers among my friends. (Just a side note: Isn’t it ironic that I would listen to more s~~~ for going my own way than for entering divinity school of an organization known for protecting pedophiles? Hmmm…)
Last year, someone asked me why I was single and I finally broke down and said that I didn’t feel I had ‘anything to offer’ in a relationship; I am on Social Security and making peanuts, I don’t drive because I am losing my eyesight, etc. So this friend fixed me up with a woman who was also on disability, and it was ok at first. But then after 8 months, she started with the money thing, and “praying to Jesus because I needed healing” etc. i.e. ‘something’s wrong with you and if you do as I say, it’ll get fixed”. This time, I walked away quietly, no F-You! contest, no drama, just silence. Women hate that. In any case, I got out with everything in tact. I can’t describe what my inner life has been like over the years: I’ve been to therapy, I’ve been to 12 step programs because I drank copious amounts of booze in anger, frustration, demoralization and despair, and presently, 2/3rds of my cardiac tissue is dead; the Drs chalk it up to stress. (The upside is I smoke medical ganja now, but that’s another story entirely.) Like I said, it’s hard to describe the inner life of self-torture I suffered in ignorance. I couldn’t identify with my community, and I could not identify with what was going on in my emotions, but I had been a genuinely unhappy person my whole entire life and couldn’t tell you why, exactly. I can see today that my entire identity was built around pleasing women as my purpose in life. It’s what I was raised with, it was the only thing I knew, and it was all I ever wanted to do. I ended up over-weight, in poor health, in a career I was poorly suited for, and I hated myself.
So what’s so good about MGTOW? Why be a part of this kind of thing? For me, MGTOW speakers (pretty much limited to YouTube at the moment,) put words to what was happening to me, both on the inside and the outside, and there is something healing in that. I have been able to let go of decades of shame and guilt and I don’t have to walk around with a chip on my shoulder over what I am. I’m not evil or anti-social and I still act with civility towards women. But when they want cash or repairs done (even at the subsidized housing I live in, which has maintenance staff on-hand,) I can smile and say “thanks but I’m retired and I didn’t come here to work.” Yes, even where there are maintenance men on hand, women here automatically resort to manipulating ‘a friend’ to come over and help them out so they don’t have to wait.
If I have learned anything as a MGTOW, I would start by saying I strive to never let my indignation be aroused by a woman. This is when they start the “You’re anger scares me” nonsense. If I’m getting the script flipped on me for venting my frustrations, I am being abused, victimized, and manipulated. And the earlier in life this starts, the harder it is to see for what it is. It doesn’t mean I hate women, it just means that the mode of *respect* I have for them has shifted to something more realistic.
I don’t ever want anything in my life that’s going to put me through that kind of turmoil and enslavement ever again. (Nicotine is a close second). Giving up relationships and going my own way has been a priceless discovery. The mystique around women in this culture is like Plato and the Cave allegory. When you find out it’s not real, when you finally wake up and the nightmare is over (a mare is a female horse, btw,) life is very peaceful. Oh yes, and for someone as medically sick as I am, I can do 90 minutes on the elliptical these days.
I’d like to blather on some more, but I think I’ll leave it there for now.
Anyway,
Thanks a Million MGTOW.

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26528 <![CDATA[Reply To: Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26528 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 04:05:10 +0000 mode72 Great intro Resh.  One thing that I have changed about myself over the past few months, is that aside from my son, I don’t really give a damn what others think of me. I’ll never marry again, so I refuse to be held down by whatever it is women think men should be doing these days. I’ll make my own choices, and live proudly with the results.

Edward

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26531 <![CDATA[Reply To: Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26531 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 04:12:24 +0000 Keymaster What a terrific intro, Resh. thanks very much for stepping forward like that. It makes a difference in another life.

Today – JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO – I met an older man. He was walking down the street behind me and someone passed us who said hello. A much younger girl (he has lived in the neighborhood since 1968) said hello….. and I said “you know her?”. And he said he knew everyone in the area. He said she worked at the nearest deli a couple of blocks away. I thought that was amazing. So we chatted for about 45 minutes. He is a retired comedian and I will be going to his comedy club on Monday evening. It was a nice chat and I learned much from him.

If I hadn’t said anything, no interaction would have taken place.
But he taught me something I didn’t know before today. Listen to what an older man has to say.

When you least expect it, it could be MILLION DOLLAR advice.

Welcome to MGTOW and the forums, Resh. Very happy to have you.

… and thank YOU for being here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26576 <![CDATA[Reply To: Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26576 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 04:47:15 +0000 mode72
Keymaster wrote:

Listen to what an older man has to say. When you least expect it, it could be MILLION DOLLAR advice.  

My Dad used to jokingly ask me once a month when I was a teenager, “What’s the definition of marriage?” It’s the f~~~ing you get for the f~~~ing you got!

I wish I would have listened….

]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26591 <![CDATA[Reply To: Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26591 Sun, 01 Mar 2015 05:26:02 +0000 Keymaster When I was 17, I bought my Dad a lottery ticket for Christmas. The jackpot was $100 million.
Sometimes, just $1 can buy you a little dream.

Anyway, I asked my dad… what would you do with $100 Million bucks!!
I will never forget his reply and can even tell you what direction I was facing and what room we were in.

He said “I would give you $10 million.,. Your brother 10 million. And you Mom $10 million. And I would f~~~ off to my home country”.

I thought: “Gosh, REALLY???????”

I guess you could say my Dad was a MGHOW who remained until his death as husband and father – even when he didn’t want to. I’m so glad I listened. I wish he could see this place.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26938 <![CDATA[Reply To: Thank you very much for being here, MGTOW]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/thank-you-very-much-for-being-here-mgtow/#post-26938 Mon, 02 Mar 2015 16:49:27 +0000 harpo-my-"SON" Resh  Welcome to the forum. That was a great intro. hope things improve for you health-wise.

“It doesn’t mean I hate women, it just means that the mode of *respect* I have for them has shifted to something more realistic.”

Amen and high fives on that brother. Even the smallest favors they ask these days causes me to give em a look that lets them know how I feel.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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