I can understand why this forum exists because there is a lot of frustration out there about dating, but I think it’s because of a fault that lies with American society and culture, not towards women. I think blaming it on women is kind of blaming it on the Lowest Common Denominator. It feels good to do it while you’re frustrated, but it doesn’t solve any actual, long-term problems.

Since you are keep on solving long term problems, you are under no obligation to embrace mtgow or adopt such a lifestyle choice. Nobody here will try to “sell” you anything. because the man who wants to see it arrives organically. On his own. This journey takes a while. And you have to want to find it.

I think blaming it on women is kind of blaming it on the Lowest Common Denominator.

NCOOK? I would like you to meet the Lowest Common Denominator.
Lowest Common Denominator? This is Ncook. He is here for a solution to long term problems: Say Hi!

http://www.mgtow.com/video/the-quintessential-bitch-wife/

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/3-million-dollar-bitch/

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/andrea/

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/gold-digger/

We talk about what women do and we will never apologize for it. Don’t confuse “blame” with personal responsibility. Men must be aware that women will go out of her f~~~ing way to misrepresent herself long before the wedding. We don’t need to “blame women” when they will come out and proudly admit this themselves.

I really like your solution though. Not to blame women.
Let’s go out there and get more of them to accept personal responsibility. Great idea.

Ready? GO!

I am not sure that you understand why this forum exists, maybe you mean also the whole website, because you bring out the “lots of frustrations about dating” which you believe that this is the main thing here.

We are talking about our lives and our experiences of the past years to avoid further failures or not to do some mistakes before a man is ruined. That is not frustration.
We are not here to blame women, that would lift them up to an important thing or a central character. Lift them up is the lesson of the blue pillars and the pink poodles outthere. It is none of a MHOWs business.

We are not doing vice versa the tortures that have feminism gave to men in the last 40+ years.

We are going to take our chances by our own way with new ideas and new creations. We do not apologize !!!

Comparing women with the Lowest Common Denominator is pushing them into the victims role, and that is the mainstream trash which I absolutely overfed. By the way, it is not really women friendly to do this.

I don’t know what you wanna tell us ? Your writing doesn’t sound like the speech of a MGHOW, thats what you are mentined that you are not considering yourself as a MGHOW, but it also not even sounds like the speech of a MAN.

CHEERS!

Personally I’m separated, and since my separation I’ve f~~~ed femaleS (plural) – it’s not a great deal to f~~~ females, it would be better to totally avoid them, but sometimes I admit I’m weak 🙂

If someone have “dating frustrations” I suggest him to marry a female. Then we’ll see who is the “frustrated” one 🙂

A lot of MGTOW like me are not frustrated at all. I in fact love the situation I have found myself in. I no longer have a slave mind and I am free. I have said before on these forums that I don’t think it is healthy to be mad at women for their nature but we can still treat them like adults and expect they be held accountable just like we are.

I really hope your encounter here will not scare you away from the red pill. MGTOW men are fierce.

I am single, too, and I don’t mind being single in any way, shape or form. I agree with you that we can hold women to be accountable.

In fact, I’m not even sure if I even believe in the concept of “honor” as having even any real legitimacy to discuss.

That’s obvious. And a give away in your attitude and phrasing.

“Sure, I SUPPOSE I’ll give an intro”.

… as if anyone asked and you were somehow obligated. Like you are doing everyone a “favor”. Other MGTOW forums require it. It’s not a f~~~ing option. And if they don’t like it and get so much as whiff of shaming or fem-infested bulls~~~, they don’t approve you. Since you don’t even think honor is a value, then this is no place for you.

What you are doing is showing no honor and disrespecting your fellow man. And us. We didn’t work for months and years conceptualizing this website – and all the work that went into it – by shrugging our shoulders and saying “Sure… I SUPPOSE I’ll make a website”. No. It came at an enormous effort and expense and is only intended for men who WANT to be here and who are delighted about it.

MGTOW are rigorous about honor, integrity and core values that are otherwise LOST.

Notice your changed your “I’m really not a MGTOW anyway” to “just tired of dogmatic ways of thinking”

Take a break for a little while and come back when you’re not so “tired”, and have sorted yourself out.

Honestly mate, I dont think you’re ready or right to be here. Not yet.
Dont get me wrong, I’m not telling you to go away or leave but I just dont think you’ve had your red pill moment.

What is a red pill? The moment you don’t want to date anymore? Seriously, it just doesn’t make sense to me.

Considering no one here is either family or forcing me into deference with a paycheck, I don’t see any reason to honor anything.

And only good families deserve honor, ones that reciprocate between members, etc.