In this thread we talk about why President Hillary Clinton is a bad idea, ignoring the fact that she’s a woman as that reason won’t hold water to the rest of the world. If anything saying “because she’s a woman” will make them not listen to you at all because “you’re being sexist” (Yes, rant about it in the other thread). Remember: no matter what, do not use her gender as a reason not to vote for her!

We need to collect as many non-gender reasons as possible to appeal to as many types of people as possible and it all needs to be things that they can look up for themselves and see are real. Keep your eyes open: as things get closer to election some will be dug up and some will be swept under the rug so we need to stay diligent and keep collecting and spreading truth.

What have you found? Thoughts or strategies for using things we have found?

I’ll start us with a few I’ve dredged up.

Hillary is in Monsanto’s pocket.

That’s right: a company so evil that it would rather have farmers commit suicide than letting them save their seeds for the next year and she goes to dinners and has meetings with them. A company whose products have been linked to mass deaths of pollinators among other horrifying things she’s OK with their products. Monsanto and the Bill Gates Foundation are two of her two biggest backers. It’s nothing new, either: Bill also had ties and his time in office lead to Monsanto getting as big as it is now.

How to use: make people aware of how evil Monsanto is first, then once they are on the “Hell no Monsanto!” bandwagon, wait a few days then tell them Clinton is in their pocket. If you know anyone from 4Chan, this info will be like a bomb to them as Anonymous hates Monsanto.

The next few I got from the same page- there’s tons more info if you follow the links out from there.

Clinton is being paid by the Russians

Russia has been trying for years to both push nuclear energy and control the uranium supply. This has been made a lot easier by the fact that Clinton approved the sale of the Uranium Ore company (yes, that’s it’s real name) to the Russians. This company owned 1/5th of the world’ uranium, so now Russia has the majority of the world’s uranium. During the buy-off process, Uranium Ore alone donated over $2.35 million to the Clintons in secret with millions more coming from connected parties. All of this totally ignored the fact that contributions need to publicly identify all donors. The donations were filtered through American owned companies (like the one Russia was buying) because American political campaigns are barred from accepting foreign donations, but foreigners may give to foundations in the United States.

How to use: This one isn’t likely to scare anyone under 40 unless they’re an ardent anti-nuke tree-hugger, but older folks who are still wary of Russia will take notice. It’s also a great way to point out dirty money already coming in to her pocket from a country that has been trying to invade neighbors lately.

She stopped claiming foreign donations as soon as she became secretary of state, used being “nonprofit” as an excuse

I’m cut-pasting this one:

For years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation reported tens of millions of dollars in donations from foreign governments on its tax forms. In 2010, that suddenly dropped to zero. Reuters reports:

After Reuters asked about the discrepancy, the foundation said it would refile five years’ worth of returns. “No charity is required to disclose their donors,” a spokesman said. “However, we voluntarily disclose our more than 300,000 donors and post our audited financial statements on our website along with the 990s for anyone to see.” But of course, no other charity is run by a former president whose wife used to be secretary of state and who is running for president.

How to use: if the older folks aren’t scared of the Ruskies, this should still get their attention. If this has been an error, why did the spokesperson turn around and say they don’t have to disclose their donors? Very suspicious when coupled with the Uranium Ore company sale.

Bill is making a killing talking for foreign audiences

Sure, you could write some of it off as popularity. We have a charismatic ex-president with a wife aiming at being president who just happens to be a good speaker himself suddenly getting large amounts of money when he goes out speaking. None the less, people don’t tend to pay tons extra for speakers like this, even when they do get popular. Even stranger, the money is coming mostly from foreign groups with a vested interest in getting people in the USA to do things they want them to do or large financial institutions (Aka “Wall Street”).

No proof has been given about the Clintons doing anything just because they were paid, but between the sudden pay spike and audiences like Canada’s TD Bank, which had an interest in the Keystone Pipeline, and famous “Wall street” names like Goldman Sachs, Barclays Capital, Deutsche Bank and Citigroup, it looks suspicious. It’s doubly suspicious when you find out that in just one week in March of 2011, Mr. Clinton collected $1.3 million giving speeches in Nigeria, Brazil and Grand Cayman. All of these are known “tax havens”.

How to use: Know someone who is p~~~ed about offshore tax havens and the exporting of US jobs? This will p~~~ them off. Also good for 99%-ers who really distrust the big banks.

…this is just a start. Let’s get researching!

How about this… F~~~ all politics. Who cares. Just my own opinion… Focus on you. whst new skill did you learn this year? I jyst finished a new apartment and read a few new software books with more to go. Politics is a false road that leads nowhere.

While I do agree with what you say, we can not bury our heads in the sand even though politics hardly do any good to most of us. Saying that, we must stay pro-active and continue demanding for changes in any shape or form available or else we run the risk of having others making choices for us which we never wanted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/04/21/hillary-clintons-history-with-video-games-and-the-rise-of-political-geek-cred/

DRS_au Wrote: While I do agree with what you say, we can not bury our heads in the sand even though politics hardly do any good to most of us. Saying that, we must stay pro-active and continue demanding for changes in any shape or form available or else we run the risk of having others making choices for us which we never wanted.

participation is considered consent to these corrupt parasites. They do not know me or where I am going. How in the hell can they lead me or make a choice for me? They can’t because I don’t participate. I have no contracts in place that would require me to vote or participate in their crooked and evil schemes. I have more I would say about politics, but it has been said b4 in the political section. I do not consider it burying my head in the sand because I have knowledge about what is going on. I consider participating in the system to be the same as consenting, approving and supporting it. I have no time for politics. This is the extent of my political expression. To say I do not consent, approve of, or support it and give my reasons.

This is why I don’t participate.  http://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/i-dont-vote/

participation is considered consent to these corrupt parasites. They do not know me or where I am going. How in the hell can they lead me or make a choice for me? They can’t because I don’t participate. I have no contracts in place that would require me to vote or participate in their crooked and evil schemes.

The bottom line is that we are going to get a new president even if none of us votes. Participation is the only way to have any say at all in this. Yes, the system is gamed to death by the wealthy and corrupt, however, by doing nothing you make it easier for the wealthy and corrupt to get their way as they now need just a little less effort to win. This is because each of them only has one vote. They have to use their money to make people vote like they want to or sicken people to the point that they don’t vote so there’s less opposition.

This is why this thread exists: if you don’t want President Hillary sticking your head in the sand won’t stop her. You have to take it to the minds and hearts of the people in other places. The first step in this is gathering facts and sharing strategies.

And yes, they do know you and where you’re going. They can read your email without a warrant. They have been watching your internet habits, what you read and what you watch. Every facebook page hit, Google ad, and Google search builds the trail. Not at home? Your cellphone’s GPS is tracking you. Oh, and some apps listen in the background even when they’re turned off. Did you know about all of this? They all happened because people did nothing to stop it. They only can end when more people decide to speak up. Electing people who suck just a little less just makes fixing things faster.

If you don’t feel like helping, just don’t whine when things go sour. If we do fail, at least we did something instead of just sitting there letting them win. If we don’t fail, then we did it! On another note, posting just because you want to say that you have better things to do with your time kind of is wasting both of our time. We’re not going to force you to post if you don’t want to, you know!

Ok, that’s my rant on why politics are important. Back on the subject of Hillary herself.

RoyDal wrote:

The Drudge Report has a link to a tell all book about the Clintons. I haven’t had a chance to read it, but it corroborates stories about them I have found on the web.

Can you find some of the links on that? One of the articles I was reading earlier mentioned a book called “Clinton Cash”, but I haven’t read it. Can you recall if it that book or another one?

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Doesn’t Hillary hate video games too? That might add a nudge to the American public.

Interesting. You’d think that the moral panic over video games would have died off by now considering that there’s so much evidence to the contrary. Has she said anything stupid like that since the quote in 2005? If all else fails, it could at least be part of the reasons as long as she doesn’t openly state that she’s changed her mind on it.

I heard an opinion that Hitlary’s numbers in the polls took such a nosedive, that she might not win the convention

I hope that is true! If she never makes it past the convention, then mission accomplished.

Hillary has been trying to chalk it up to assorted scandals and fallout from Bill’s antics, but I hope it is also a case of people wising up and seeing that she isn’t a good idea. There has been a lot of minor negatives showing up lately like how she apparently has thyroid problems which has some people worried about her health. Another fun fact: it’s rumored that Hillary is gay or bi. Oh boy!

Speaking of scandals, apparently Hillary has been using her personal email for sensitive and even classified contacts for years. At first she said she never sent any classified information on the email account, but now it’s changed to “none of the information was classified at the time.” Clinton so far has handed over about 30,000 messages to the State Department and erased another 32,000 messages that she deemed personal. She went as far as wiping the mail server so they can’t be recovered.