MGTOWSerious questions. – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 22:46:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/page/440/#post-22518 <![CDATA[Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/page/440/#post-22518 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:55:25 +0000 Brashen015 First id like to say my ex is a physchotic manipulative devil of a woman whom i will NEVER again trust or be with. She has taken me to court, filed false allegations against me and in general attempted to ruin my life. With that being said i have not spoken to her in 3 months now. We didnt block eachother on FB just not friends now. About a week ago i posted a pic of myself as ive lost weight and am getting much more muscular, i also posted under my education how i am getting my degree in personal training. Literally the next day i randomly decided to look at her page, was curious. She changed her pic to a super slutty low cut top and changed her education aswell to state she was becoming a model, ofcourse this was BS as shes not pretty enough nor is there even an agency in my state lol, the dates show it was 1 day after i changed mine.. Now, under her pic some guy posted how sexy she was and they exchanged flirty messages, she kept everything on her page private except this convo with random dude. Seeking advice on 3 main things.

1. Why did she do those things?

2.I still feel sexually attracted even though im emotionally repulsed is this normal?

3. I got kinda angry knowing she was flirting with that dude even though i dont want her and he wasnt more attractive or fit then me. Its like i deff hate her deeply but id still f~~~ the s~~~ out of her. I think im crazy. Confirm?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22528 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22528 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:29:59 +0000 Kahn Well,

1. It could be that she’s trying to f~~~ with you, or it could be that she’s just trying to find a replacement. OR both.

2. some say that hatred is not the opposite of love; but instead that apathy is the opposite of love.

As for sex, there is some research (in mice, admittedly) that ties the impulses for violence and sex very closely. I suspect though, that the sex drive can be triggered by most strong emotions.

3. You are crazy. But it’s the kind of crazy all guys go for when he realizes the woman he is emotionally invested in is probably f~~~ing or going to f~~~ some other dude(s).

In other words, your normal. Congrats. Bet you wish your were some sort of sociopath so you didn’t have to feel this way right?

Honestly, the more I think about it, I wonder if a sociopath is the only one who could actually keep up with the games women play (long term), if for no other reason that all their emotional attacks would be ineffective.

Or maybe women in general are some kind of sociopath, hence why they can do the stuff they do.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22540 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22540 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:06:22 +0000 Brashen015 Thanks for the reply, im looking for various opinions on this however you did bring about some clarity. As a result of the above mentioned BS i actually 100 percent removed myself from fb. I dont want her to get her rocks off thinking im watching her pine over dudes lol, idk this 3 yr year relations~~~ is just dying to slowly. Interesting you said sex and anger are related, i get p~~~ed at her then wanna f~~~ her, being 25 sucks

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22558 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22558 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:29:54 +0000 BrainPilot Brashen,
‘don’t think I’ve seen your name before so I’m thinking you’re new. welcome to mgtow.

I’m fairly new to the mgtow site myself. But I’m 48 years old and have been dating women (mostly crazy ones as that’s all the only kind that remain) since long before you were born. I was recognized as a good producer early on and have been a target for the entirety of my adult life. Sometimes they’re subtle about it. Sometimes not so subtle.

I will promise you now that you are being stalked and this is an attempt to screw with your head. But since I’m just some anonymous posted on the internet, I won’t ask you to trust me on this. Let me just point out what is obvious in order of its appearance in your post:

She lied in court. You saw her do it so you know she’s capable of that skill.
She’s made a clear attempt to ruin your life. So now you not only have insight into her skill set, you also know her goal. You don’t need to trust me on this. You already know it. Predicting what she will do with her skill set is not so difficult when you know her goal. If she took you to court, you KNOW she wants you to suffer. That’s the goal and it’s no more complicated than that.

But first, there is as much to learn from what a woman does not do as there is to learn from what she does do.

When you broke up, she had the option of blocking you on Facebook and ignoring/blocking you. But she did not do it.

Why not?

A rational person breaks up and moves on to the next person. Does she think she will meet that next person on your Facebook page? <sarcastic> She chose to maintain access to your Facebook page. That was not an accident. And, she used it. That’s not an accident either. You know she used that access to your Facebook page because when your Facebook page changed, she reacted to it – immediately. What that tells me is that she was lurking your page everyday. She didn’t just happen to stumble onto it and ‘discover’ you new pics on the same day you posted them. She was lurking your page everyday. This is not a coincidence. Trust me a little on this.

The next day, she has some new things on her page (model) that you KNOW are lies because they are impossible. You don’t have to wonder about this. It cannot possibly be true. After having seen her lie in court, you already knew this was part of her skill set, so this should not surprise you to see her lying again. Alongside her new lies are a sexy picture of herself, and text of her flirting back and forth with a (theoretical) guy. He’s theoretical at this point because you already know you can’t believe what she says. Why would you believe this guy is real, and not a second Facebook account she fabricated. It’s not like that would be out of character for her, right?

If he is a real person, then it’s someone she’s been keeping around while dating you so that she can use him for this if ever needed. But doesn’t it seem a little odd that this is the ONLY thing visible to you when you go to her page. Why is that the only thing? I’m not a Facebook expert. It’s a crazy woman’s playground that I try to stay away from. But, my assumption here is that she has set her Facebook settings so that when you go to her page, you see something intended to increase the suffering she’s already demonstrated is her goal for you. I think that was manufactured specifically for you and anyone else who goes to her page probably sees her vacation pics and pics of her cat and all the other stupid s~~~ girls put on Facebook. But for you, she fabricated this special collection of lies intended to make you suffer.

Knowing what you’ve already demonstrated that you know about her, why would you believe anything else?

As for what to do next? I can advise you to do 2 things my young friend. The first is to amputate this crazy bitch from your life. Get a restraining order if necessary and I’d say that the odds of it being necessary or about 50-50. ANYTHING else that you do will communicate to her that all the other s~~~ she has done so far is acceptable behavior, and it will get worse. If she offers you the wildest, kinkiest, most x rated, monkey sex in the world… and you accept the offer and f~~~ her, then with that act you will have communicated to her that as long as she is having wild monkey sex with you, that all that other bulls~~~ from her is acceptable… and after communicating that, you can expect more of it. I know that crazy women are often the best in bed. May of us have been there. We don’t argue with that.

But the sexual attraction you feel is just your dick wanting what dicks want. Your dick doesn’t care if she is a crazy ass emotional wrecking ball who belongs in a locked psych’ ward. Your dick can get you into a lot of trouble being as indiscriminate as it is. This actually is common for 25 year old guys. Fortunately, your dick can be managed (barely). To do this, you need to go have sex with another girl…ANY other girl will do. There are 3 billion of them on the planet. Just pick one. No matter which one it is, it will be an improvement over the one you’re posting about right now.

As soon as you do, I promise you’ll feel better. Because as difficult as it is to manage sex drive when you’re 25, it really only takes one girl for you to manage it…because the worst orgasm you’ll ever have in your life, is still pretty damn wonderful. And you can accomplish this with ANY girl. But right now, in your case, you just need to make sure that it’s any OTHER girl.

That’s your mgtow homework assignment. 1) abandon this girl as fast and as completely as possible. Pretend she died: no Facebook. no calls. no text messages. no meetings. 2) Get sex as soon as possible with ANY other girl on this planet. The only girls off limits are my mother and your ex… 😛

3) report back the morning after…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22565 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22565 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 23:54:27 +0000 Smitty the Great One Listen to BP son, he’s a doctor…

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22847 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22847 Sat, 14 Feb 2015 20:46:43 +0000 Brashen015

Brashen, ‘don’t think I’ve seen your name before so I’m thinking you’re new. welcome to mgtow. I’m fairly new to the mgtow site myself. But I’m 48 years old and have been dating women (mostly crazy ones as that’s all the only kind that remain) since long before you were born. I was recognized as a good producer early on and have been a target for the entirety of my adult life. Sometimes they’re subtle about it. Sometimes not so subtle. I will promise you now that you are being stalked and this is an attempt to screw with your head. But since I’m just some anonymous posted on the internet, I won’t ask you to trust me on this. Let me just point out what is obvious in order of its appearance in your post: She lied in court. You saw her do it so you know she’s capable of that skill. She’s made a clear attempt to ruin your life. So now you not only have insight into her skill set, you also know her goal. You don’t need to trust me on this. You already know it. Predicting what she will do with her skill set is not so difficult when you know her goal. If she took you to court, you KNOW she wants you to suffer. That’s the goal and it’s no more complicated than that. But first, there is as much to learn from what a woman does not do as there is to learn from what she does do. When you broke up, she had the option of blocking you on Facebook and ignoring/blocking you. But she did not do it. Why not? A rational person breaks up and moves on to the next person. Does she think she will meet that next person on your Facebook page? <sarcastic> She chose to maintain access to your Facebook page. That was not an accident. And, she used it. That’s not an accident either. You know she used that access to your Facebook page because when your Facebook page changed, she reacted to it – immediately. What that tells me is that she was lurking your page everyday. She didn’t just happen to stumble onto it and ‘discover’ you new pics on the same day you posted them. She was lurking your page everyday. This is not a coincidence. Trust me a little on this. The next day, she has some new things on her page (model) that you KNOW are lies because they are impossible. You don’t have to wonder about this. It cannot possibly be true. After having seen her lie in court, you already knew this was part of her skill set, so this should not surprise you to see her lying again. Alongside her new lies are a sexy picture of herself, and text of her flirting back and forth with a (theoretical) guy. He’s theoretical at this point because you already know you can’t believe what she says. Why would you believe this guy is real, and not a second Facebook account she fabricated. It’s not like that would be out of character for her, right? If he is a real person, then it’s someone she’s been keeping around while dating you so that she can use him for this if ever needed. But doesn’t it seem a little odd that this is the ONLY thing visible to you when you go to her page. Why is that the only thing? I’m not a Facebook expert. It’s a crazy woman’s playground that I try to stay away from. But, my assumption here is that she has set her Facebook settings so that when you go to her page, you see something intended to increase the suffering she’s already demonstrated is her goal for you. I think that was manufactured specifically for you and anyone else who goes to her page probably sees her vacation pics and pics of her cat and all the other stupid s~~~ girls put on Facebook. But for you, she fabricated this special collection of lies intended to make you suffer. Knowing what you’ve already demonstrated that you know about her, why would you believe anything else? As for what to do next? I can advise you to do 2 things my young friend. The first is to amputate this crazy bitch from your life. Get a restraining order if necessary and I’d say that the odds of it being necessary or about 50-50. ANYTHING else that you do will communicate to her that all the other s~~~ she has done so far is acceptable behavior, and it will get worse. If she offers you the wildest, kinkiest, most x rated, monkey sex in the world… and you accept the offer and f~~~ her, then with that act you will have communicated to her that as long as she is having wild monkey sex with you, that all that other bulls~~~ from her is acceptable… and after communicating that, you can expect more of it. I know that crazy women are often the best in bed. May of us have been there. We don’t argue with that. But the sexual attraction you feel is just your dick wanting what dicks want. Your dick doesn’t care if she is a crazy ass emotional wrecking ball who belongs in a locked psych’ ward. Your dick can get you into a lot of trouble being as indiscriminate as it is. This actually is common for 25 year old guys. Fortunately, your dick can be managed (barely). To do this, you need to go have sex with another girl…ANY other girl will do. There are 3 billion of them on the planet. Just pick one. No matter which one it is, it will be an improvement over the one you’re posting about right now. As soon as you do, I promise you’ll feel better. Because as difficult as it is to manage sex drive when you’re 25, it really only takes one girl for you to manage it…because the worst orgasm you’ll ever have in your life, is still pretty damn wonderful. And you can accomplish this with ANY girl. But right now, in your case, you just need to make sure that it’s any OTHER girl. That’s your mgtow homework assignment. 1) abandon this girl as fast and as completely as possible. Pretend she died: no Facebook. no calls. no text messages. no meetings. 2) Get sex as soon as possible with ANY other girl on this planet. The only girls off limits are my mother and your ex… :-P 3) report back the morning after…

Yea its clear she needs to be kicked to the f~~~ing curb, youve inspired me to delete my fb accn. Stalk me now lol. I found out via a mutual friend  that shes basically being a groupie for a local rap band named ya boy fizz. They are on youtube and terrible imho, however this new guy shes talking to seems like backroom casting couch porno type saying hes with them etc, but we live in MAINE they are in Pittsburgh. Overall im going ghost and putting every ounce and fiber of my being into my dream, a dream in which she tried to rob me of. A dream in which i almost gave up on to settle down with her, shes 34 im 25 i hate how i was so stupid. Todays a birthday guys, the birth of a new MGTOW the birth of a new me. The start of a legend

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22974 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22974 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:20:08 +0000 Keymaster

First id like to say my ex is a physchotic manipulative devil of a woman whom i will NEVER again trust or be with. She has taken me to court, filed false allegations against me and in general attempted to ruin my life.

Goddammit, I hate that I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.

Welcome to MGTOW, Brashen.

I try not to read other people’s replies to questions before I have posted mine to avoid any influence or bias, so here are thoughts off the top …

1. Why did she do those things?

I stopped asking “WHY women do….” s~~~ years ago. The answer is almost certainly ATTENTION. Are you familiar with the concepts of social proofing and the SMP (sexual market place)? Facebook is an attention whore’s wet dream. She uses other guys to get to you emotionally.

2.I still feel sexually attracted even though im emotionally repulsed is this normal?

Of course. You don’t have to LIKE women to still want to shag them. You only have to like them to live with and marry them. Have you ever had a hate f~~~? I have been in relationships where I couldn’t stand the bitch, she drove me f~~~ing nuts, and that’s what made us inseparable. We fought and jabbed but in an essential good way. It’s a CLASSIC formula.

• Rhett and Scarlet in Gone with the Wind.
• Sam and Diane in Cheers.
• Han Solo and Princess Leia
• Maddy and David in Moonlighting.
• Mr. And Mrs. Smith.
• Shrek and Fiona.
It’s all over the place.

It’s called CHEMISTRY and you can’t choose it. People line up at theaters by the millions for these stories and they wish they had some of this in their lives – at least to some degree. They are not true partnerships or long lasting, but they are “the game”. He drives her crazy. She drives him crazy. You can analyze and break it down for anyone to understand why it “works”.

This is why when a man and a woman are at each others throats, the casual observer might say “GET A ROOM, YOU TWO!”.
You watch the Empire Strikes Back and you just know that Han and Liea will be f~~~ing by the end of the movie.

It’s where “passion” comes from. Women pretend these men are “assholes”, but he is the one she dreams about f~~~ing. Any other guy is “boring” to her. I won’t pretend to know what she’s thinking but the other guy is being used by her for validation. Possibly even to get to you. She needs Facebook approval to levate her sexual market value and maintain desirability. You can be sure your muscular pics and self-improvement are getting to her more than she is getting to you. DONT PAY ANY ATTENTION TO HER. She is irrelevant.

This kind of female behavior on facebook is textbook and predictable.

3. I got kinda angry knowing she was flirting with that dude even though i dont want her and he wasnt more attractive or fit then me. Its like i deff hate her deeply but id still f~~~ the s~~~ out of her. I think im crazy. Confirm?

You’re not crazy. Happy to disappoint you.

Cheers.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22979 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-22979 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:01:55 +0000 Krab_Ass

It’s [Facebook] a crazy woman’s playground that I try to stay away from.

Yes BrainPilot – exactly sir!!  That is why I left FB many, many years ago.  It is the way snoopy folks can snoop without feeling snoopy.

 

Welcome Brashen – I agree with what BP posted.  Very insightful, articulate, eloquent and succinct.

My two rubles only here sir  – I suggest getting the hell off FB.   That s~~~ will drive you nuts.   Just my thoughts and opinion – nothing more.

Take Care.

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-23018 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-23018 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 10:19:13 +0000 Stargazer Ditto to giving up on social media… while I enjoy talking to attractive young females in person, I absolutely got ill from seeing the crap they post on facebook and instagram. Mostly “look at me!” selfies and random passive-aggressive crap.

When I got to the point that I felt moved to call them out for it, I knew I was done and it was time for me to remove myself from the equation. Since then I haven’t even had the urge to check up on any of their pages and, for the most part, they have all fallen out of my life as they have fallen off my radar which tells the whole story… if I’m not working at giving them my attention, I’m not relevant.

As for OPs situation, break the addiction. Unfriend the girl and get on with your life. You found her… you’ll find another. And this time you’ll be wiser about how you interact with her.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-23048 <![CDATA[Reply To: Serious questions.]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/serious-questions/#post-23048 Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:31:14 +0000 Krab_Ass

if I’m not working at giving them my attention, I’m not relevant.

Hey KeyMaster – I think you might have another quote to immortalize on the front page.

Doc Fenderson drives another one OUTTA THE PARK!!

 

"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore Roosevelt

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