MGTOWRay Rice.. – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 11:02:45 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/page/521/#post-3182 <![CDATA[Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/page/521/#post-3182 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 03:29:42 +0000 Tbowden1 Oh boy.. Is there a better topic to incorporate both MGTOW and Sports at the same time? We have a man who has literally blown his entire career with one fell swoop (or a left hook..?). We’re talking about the remainder of his contract ($25 million) gone because of a woman. I realize his actions were the cause of it, but had he of been a MGHOW, there would be very little chance of this happening.

I don’t condone the actions of Ray Rice and, frankly, think he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law..
With that said.. Why the hell do women think it’s okay to slap a man in the heat of an argument? Domestic violence laws apply to EVERYONE, not just men. Women can’t go slapping a man simply because they are frustrated. If you don’t want the chance of getting punched in the face, don’t put your hands on another person.. It’s as simple as that. It is a two-way street, not a highway and a bike path.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3185 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3185 Thu, 11 Sep 2014 04:57:59 +0000 Rock St.Eddie Some things are worth going to jail for. That’s all I’m gonna say about that.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3245 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3245 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:48:14 +0000 Keymaster Interesting topic. I’ve gone back and forth on this 1000 times. Comedian Bill Burr phrases it in a very interesting way. His response to “There is no reason to hit a woman” is “Sure there are! There are PLENTY of reasons to hit a woman… but I still don’t DO it.” He and I are in total agreement on that for one very simple reason:

Completely ignore her. It hurts worse. You can do a lot more damage to a woman by ignoring her completely. Permanent, internal damage. Attention is her lifeblood (after nagging). Nothing is more devastating to her than being totally ignored. Less effort than beating her. More effective results.

It’s “cruel” yes. But it’s not violent. It’s necessary. It’s the best way to deal with it. To cut all contact. They will even launch big campaigns “it’s never OK to hit a woman!”. OK. I agree. Mind if I go MGTOW and just ignore her instead?

Bruises heal. But abandonment issues are forever.

That’s WHY she will throw punches and initiate violence. She would rather be hit and yelled at be totally destructive than be ignored. That’s why they willingly stay in abusive relationships – ad keep going go back for more! Most importantly, it validates her core belief system that “all men are abusive violent assholes”. Nothing would please her more than to test your limit and be able to say “AHA! I told you! Men really are as abusive and violent as we’ve said!” A man must never give her the satisfaction. And it’s why you get this:

She thinks she is “teaching him a lesson”. But it’s he who’s teaching her.

(Sean Connery has an interesting take on this in a Barbara Walters if you google “Sean Connery slapping a woman”.)

We’re doing are pretty big article on this so I won’t post it here.
Understanding the concept of strength and “power” are key.
But thanks for accelerating it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3262 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3262 Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:37:18 +0000 VileNord

That’s why they willingly stay in abusive relationships – ad keep going go back for more! Most importantly, it validates her core belief system that “all men are abusive violent assholes”.

For a lot of women it also validates their core belief that they are worthless and don’t deserve to be treated well.

Lust for comfort suffocates the soul

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3441 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3441 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:00:05 +0000 jack reacher A few things to add about Ray Rice, since there is f~~~ all for any actual analysis out there, so I will put it in point form:

-before it became public he told his employer and acknowledged the wrong in what he did.
-his wife apparently spat at him in the elevator and charged at him before he punched her.This would count as assault if a stranger did it.
-women don’t give a s~~~ about guys getting abused by their spouses, despite all the high minded talk about domestic abuse. They also don’t give a s~~~ about kids getting beaten or emotionally abused , as it is often by the mother. In fact even worse when it is kids because they cant leave like women can. And one reason women don’t leave is because they recognize it is often mutual violence.
-women don’t want guys getting a free pass on spouse abuse just because they are the spouse. They want it treated like any other crime by a stranger. So how about when the wife uses the guys credit card without his authorization? How about some theft charges? Just one example.
-His wife not only got over it and didn’t press charges, she married the guy. That is called agency, and should be respected as a choice an adult made. She had her reasons, and no doubt there is much more to the relationship than the 30 second video, and more context to put into domestic violence such as the mutual violence in most of those situations. But all the feminist and pro-feminist pundits want to take away her agency and call for charges, lifetime bans, jail time. In reality, if they gave a s~~~ about equality, they would realize agency is one of the primary attributes of equality. And though we don’t know the full domestic situation, she has a right to make the wrong decision.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3788 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-3788 Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:23:29 +0000 Soldano His wife got over it and married the guy.
All she had to do is press charges and run with the money.

In spite of that she got INSULTED on her facebook page like crazy by angry feminists.
Her life and family was trashed and exposed, her man lost his job.

All that because some feminist bulls~~~ in the media started to make some noise.
It was a private matter.
If she didn’t press charges,this shouldn’t be a public thing.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4197 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4197 Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:43:59 +0000 JollyMisanthrope Should have kept his hand open. If he’d just smacked her upside the head he would have made his point and been punished less severely.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4969 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4969 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:44:48 +0000 Total Lee Jack Reacher yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. Their hypocrisy is so blatant.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4980 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-4980 Thu, 16 Oct 2014 15:23:28 +0000 jambear @Soldano

Her life and family was trashed and exposed, her man lost his job.

The only reason she deafened him and asked for him to not be banned is because of her income. If he gets banned he can not make huge amounts of money for her. Since a woman’s greatest goal is to make sure a man makes the most out at the plantation, she can not have him losing a lucrative NFL contract. She married him only because she is rolling the dice, she is nearing the wall quickly and the chances of her finding another Ray Rice are slim to none. She is hoping that by marring him the punishment will be diminished and he can go on working for her. Until they hit the ten year mark and she can get life time alimony and leaves him.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-5572 <![CDATA[Reply To: Ray Rice..]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/ray-rice/#post-5572 Thu, 23 Oct 2014 03:04:18 +0000 Jimbo In my opinion this highlights a few things that need some deep thought and reflection on.

 

First, in fact are the very points that Jack Reacher pointed out.  In fact a channel on Youtube called Justicar pointed out a few things to think about too.

Second thing I would like to add is, this is something that guys need to think about when getting serious with a woman.  If she is going to hit you and spit on you then the respect for you if you don’t leave her is going to go down hill really fast.  More importantly, it can ruin your life if the police get involved because they are automatically going to see you as the aggressor and her as the victim.  Coming back from that is an uphill battle even if you do.  Maybe some guys are okay with living like that but I am willing to bet if you are here then you are way above that.   As for me, my favorite hobbies/sports involve the use and ownership of firearms.  In the US, all that is needed to remove your legal ability to own them is a misdemeanor DV or an RO.   If I even think that it is going that way I take a few deep breathes, reassess the situation, and make the choice depending on whether or not my fears were founded.  If they were founded, that is when it is time to execute the exit strategy on that relationship.

Ray Rice had a hard lesson to learn.  I do not think it has fully sunk in with him yet.

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