MGTOWOne of the best posts on a newspaper website I have read – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/one-of-the-best-posts-on-a-newspaper-website-i-have-read/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 05:24:47 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/one-of-the-best-posts-on-a-newspaper-website-i-have-read/page/451/#post-18522 <![CDATA[One of the best posts on a newspaper website I have read]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/one-of-the-best-posts-on-a-newspaper-website-i-have-read/page/451/#post-18522 Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:05:11 +0000 Jim01 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/mens-health/11377311/If-as-many-women-killed-themselves-as-men-wed-never-hear-the-end-of-it.html#disqus_thread

 

The first point I’d like to make is, I’ve only occasionally caught Neil Lyndon’s “please accept men have an equal right to exist, have human rights and be happy just like women” articles, and didn’t realise he’s actually been writing quite regularly for the DT – it appears about 3 or 4 articles a month for the last few months – which makes me question how fairly he has been given any prominence on the front page, seeing as how I’d guess at least (and far more, judging by the comments) half of the DT readership is male.

However, as welcome as his “token man who cares about men at the DT” efforts are, and though I welcome this particular article greatly, I’d question not the truth, but the relevance of this premise:

“This prompted me again to wonder why do men have so little sympathy or fellow feeling for men?”

The simple answer to that one is that the way this whole society is structured – and I mean by that basically post religious/traditional, or to put it differently post-women’s liberation/secular atheism – men realise from the time they are knee high they are in competition with one another, whether it’s to come top of the class in school and thus get teacher’s approval (who bear in mind is usually a woman in the early school years), or get in the school football team, and then as they get older, to get the girl and then finally the job or the business success, giving the position of status in society which gives respect of one’s peers, and thus self-respect, and above all in most cases, the respect of and thus favour and acceptance by women.

Because though the reasons men kill themselves can be complex, it isn’t mostly because other men don’t have sympathy for men, which few or no men actually expect, but because women don’t have much or any sympathy for men.

And because women are the ones who in reality control modern Western society – they may not hold all the overt positions of power, but they mostly control all the real power, e.g. very obviously our 3 main political leaders – Cameron, Clegg and Milliband – covertly – the real power in the world is that exerted across the pillow and dinner table, not the political soap box and boardroom table as we’re falsely led to believe.

The problem men are facing is the hardened selfishness of an ever larger number of women, who are being egged on by the feminists to think that making men’s lives miserable, and taking away all their rights, jobs, happiness and sex lives, is just some kind of a fun sport, and also you see justified as an act of vengeance on account of the alleged repression of and denial of rights to women by men throughout the ages.

It is laughable under the circumstances to imagine that any woman cares less when men kill themselves, any more than other men do – no, what women are concerned about is not the suicidal behaviour of men, but the violent and homicidal behaviour of men, of which they themselves could become victims.

And in fact, it’s also pretty much an illusion to suggest that there is some great solidarity amongst women, who are often more b*tchy attacking one another than men are – apparently a lot of young women for example in a nightclub will corner rivals in the “ladies” room and threaten to “scratch their eyes out” if they are both pursuing the same footballer – they are united only over one thing – against men.

Women have only one major problem in life – which is to control men, get men to do what they want, and not do what they don’t want, and this alone is what unites them and that so called “unity” is largely only temporary.

e.g. even girl “best friends” of many years or even decades, will ditch each other instantly, when a man they want is involved, or even steal one another’s men if they can get away with it.

Just as beauty is only “skin deep” so are a lot of these so called never ending female friendships, which in real life end very frequently indeed.

The bottom line is we are all selfish – we are usually only going to help our fellow men or woman out if we think there is something in it for us too.

So the only way men are going to stick together and help one another out, is if they finally start to see they are going to have to put on a united front against those women, mainly feminists, who wish to take all their rights away from them, and it’s getting worse ever day in that regard, with this latest diabolical attack on the sex lives of all men here:

“Men must prove a woman said ‘Yes’ under tough new rape rules”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new

about which incidentally, the DT did not allow men to comment and thus defend themselves, and has virtually turned the law on its head, and now is more or less saying men are presumed guilty of rape until proven innocent, overturning the fundamental principle of criminal law that has lasted for centuries of presumed innocent until proven guilty.

I’m afraid for the moment Mr Lyndon is doomed to failure in expecting most men to unite and fight against these denials of their rights – the only ones who much care are those who have been victims of divorces, false accusations, and just general shoddy and degrading treatment at the hands of women and the feminist authorities, including the police, law, hospitals, academia etc, which are now all more and more under control by the feminists, thus causing our disrespectful surveillance society in general, as well as the increasing denial of freedom of speech.

Which if you look at the detail of is mostly taking away the rights of men to say what is so called “politically incorrect” – i.e. allegedly offensive to women, gays/lesbians, or ethnic minorities in most cases, because the white heterosexual male is he that is the main target of this suppression and mind/thought control, ultimately by the feminists who have infiltrated government and the law and hide behind and manipulate the men in power, like Mrs Cameron, Mrs Clegg and Harriet Harman regarding our three main party leaders.

So in fact, it is going to be only when women en masse themselves see the danger of feminist policy to themselves, that things are going to change.

e.g. the more women take mens’ jobs, the less “financially viable” men there are for women to mate with – up to millions of single or unattached working women now are crying out “where are the men?” because they have dimly not yet put 2 and 2 together and realised that when they’ve taken millions of jobs formerly done by men, and often the good jobs too – e.g. there are now more women trainee doctors going to medical school than men – there are inevitably then millions of men without those same good or high status jobs, whom they thus do not any more regard as suitable mates, though these men may well be their equals or even superiors in terms of intelligence or ability.

And as to the tyrannical changes in the law on rape, and indeed the anti-male law in general, that is again going to have at least two obvious effects that women definitely won’t like when they wake up to them:

a) an increasing number of men won’t want to have any real life relationship with women at all, they’ll see it as too dangerous to their liberty, as well as money and property, and will instead choose a porn and possibly prostitution based sex life, and will refuse to commit to or give them children (most women’s number one desire sooner or later, which is totally impossible to carry out with men’s consent – men’s only real power now, which they mostly don’t realise)

b) in the case of the real rapists, as opposed to the not genuine sexual predators e.g. Ched Evans, Rolf Harris, Max Clifford, etc, all probably wrongly convicted, and having no need to force themselves on women, because their success guaranteed numerous willing ones – there will be an increased tendency to murder women they have raped; because as long as there is no one to accuse them, they will then be safe, because once conviction of rape is almost guaranteed, as it now is in the serious cases, the penalty will be nearly indistinguishable from if they had done murder anyway, so on balance it will be perceived by a genuine rapist as a logical act of self-preservation, his best chance of not getting caught

Likewise, many men – it happens quite frequently over the entire population already – knowing that the justice system will not give them any justice, will decide to take the law totally into their own hands, and kill the women who have humiliated them, e.g. rejected them or betrayed them (as they see it) and probably themselves too afterwards – whereas if they believed there were a fair system, they would instead fight over custody for their children, etc, a fight they know that in 95% of more of cases they are currently going to lose under the law.

Thus, the feminists are actually – and they have done so already – going to put women in far more danger and insecurity and indeed loneliness and denial of a proper family or married life with children in it, with a husband/father of their children of their own choosing – rather than feminist policy increasing their rights and protecting them and improving their lives as the feminists pretend they are doing.

So yes, I’d like to see just like Mr Lyndon, a society of men who care about each other as true caring brothers (bear in mind, most actual brothers are not terribly fond of each other, especially as they get older and leave home, and frequently don’t want to see each other again), but you only have to look at the way men tear each other up daily on these comments pages, to see what a long way off we are from that.

Because Mr Lyndon is also giving us a “rose tinted” view of male bonding – yes, a bunch of men/lads on a night out will fool around and get drunk together and swap their fantasies about womanizing, but when it comes to rivalry over a woman or even a job, they’ll soon turn into enemies, and even violent enemies if need be.

And therefore, as I’ve said, really, the only hope is that we individual men who do care about not only other men, but women also, persuade women in general, and particularly the wiser amongst women, who can see where this feminist madness is going as I have partly explained, that it is definitely not in women’s long term best interests to be having this feminist war on men, which if taken to the extreme, they cannot possibly win.

Because at the end of the day, men are still the real power in society who fight the wars, do most of the harder police work, and most of the harder jobs in life generally – driving the trucks, manning the oil rigs and industry etc – without which the modern comfortable and luxurious and still mostly safe for women world, would come grinding quickly to a halt.

For women to intimidate men en masse as they are now doing, reminds me of that quote from Stalin – “in China lies a sleeping giant.”

The power of the world’s men is also a sleeping giant, and if that giant gets properly angered, he collectively is going to cause havoc like the Incredible Hulk when turned green, and women may not only lose all their so called “equal rights”, they may find themselves more repressed than they ever were.

Because consider, as much as most British men would not wish to become Muslims, the sad fact is that it has got to the stage where the Muslims are about the last men on the planet who have any actual human rights, and are not living in fear of and domination by women.

And it doesn’t seem any coincidence therefore that it appears our feminist controlled governments are doing their very best to turn the rest of us against them, and bomb and threaten their countries with annihilation, and continually attacking and trying to destroy their religion, apparently now Christianity has got so weak and “feminised” the only religion in the world left that actually gives men any proper rights and power over women is the Muslim one.

But you see, if men have power over women, as in the Muslim or old fashioned Christian world, that’s called repression, whereas if women have power and domination over men – as in the West – then it’s called “equality.”

Forgive me for laughing out loud at that word when used by feminists – “equality”….

Please….

PS Sorry, but due to the trolls, I no longer read replies to my comments, and my day is all the better for it.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/one-of-the-best-posts-on-a-newspaper-website-i-have-read/#post-18590 <![CDATA[Reply To: One of the best posts on a newspaper website I have read]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/one-of-the-best-posts-on-a-newspaper-website-i-have-read/#post-18590 Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:54:31 +0000 Loose Nuts

PS Sorry, but due to the trolls, I no longer read replies to my comments, and my day is all the better for it.

Amen, brother!

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