1. Although I do not believe in God, atheists can be (and usually are) as annoying as religious idiots. Keep both your beliefs and lack of beliefs to yourself, no one wants to hear it.

2. Circumcision is the worst decision a well-intended parent can make for their son. I am circumcised but I do not delude myself into believing that I am experiencing sex the way nature and evolution intended.

3. You are friend-zoned because women construe your excessive emotionality and want as feminine and needy. A woman wants to lose herself and feel secure in your masculinity. Most women are emotional and neurotic enough without having to deal with your emotional bulls~~~.

4. Never tolerate a woman’s bulls~~~. If a woman is emotional and upset, distract them, pick them up and dance, tell a story, take her for a walk. If that doesn’t work, leave her alone. If it never works, dump her. And remember, infidelity is never justifiable. A woman who uses you to rescue her, will eventually use another man to rescue her from you.

5. Emo and self-pity is narcissism disguised as depth, and this is why people resent your woe-is-me bulls~~~.

6. Contrary to popular belief, depression is not a painful experience. Depression is a numbing strategy usually developed in childhood as a way to keep you safe from your anger. An emotionally healthy person can allow himself to feel anger without reacting to it. When you numb yourself from real pain (anger), you block off the joy in your life and become depressed.

7. Cigarettes stunt emotional growth. Smoking seems fun because life at an early age is relatively easy. But look at a smoker in his/her 40s and tell me they look happy.
8. Japanese culture is not amazing. Japanese culture is oppressive and stifiling and that’s why the suicide rate is high.

9. Spend time with other men. Spending time with a hunting party (camping, sports, beach, pub, etc.) creates a sense of belonging, well-being and safety in this world. It is also how we make connections.

10. The older you get, the more your market value increases. At your age women are over-valued in society. By the time you’re 30 or 40, it will be a man’s market. Don’t be in such a hurry to commit.

11. Do not have a child with a woman unless you have been with her for more than a few trouble-free years. If you have a kid with a c~~~, prepare to support a family that you will NEVER be part of.

12. Sometimes your dick knows things better than you do. If you can’t get it up for a particular women, that is your subconscious telling you that she is not right for you.

13. Never marry a woman unless she loves you more than you love her.

14. Your impending sense of doom is nothing but emotional residue, there is nothing wrong. Even when something is wrong, nothing is wrong. You deal with problems as they arise, no big deal.

15. Honor is a male abstraction, don’t expect women to understand.

I hear this all the time, but I haven’t seen it in my own experience. I’m 50, and the dynamics that I see between men and women are almost exactly what I see among those 20 years younger. Even at 50, women feel entitled, and they still (in most cases) have enough men in pursuit of them that they can chose among them and exploit them shamelessly.

So here is my advice from an Old Man: don’t expect women to change as you grow older, because they won’t. Don’t expect relations between men and women to change as they grown older, because they won’t. Don’t expect people (i.e., demanding, bitchy, bossy women) to soften with age, because they won’t. If you’re going to be a man going his own way, expect to do so from cradle to grave.

On the other hand, women who let themselves go (and the long “don’t marry” piece on this site gives lots of examples of this) probably couldn’t get a date if they offered to pay for the dinner.

If I even get a sniff that a girlfriend has a dating profile or is in touch with an EX, she’s out. No exceptions.
I am well aware of the whole “man waiting in the wings” strategy…

http://www.mgtow.com/audio/waiting-in-the-wings/

…. and I’d refuse to be the guy she calls Justin.

That’s his name: “Justin Case”.

Justin Case it doesn’t work out with the guy she is sleeping with.
Justin Case she gets fat.
Justin Case she needs a date on national holidays.
….you get the idea.

But I think women who date much younger men are kidding themselves and will tell themselves all kinds of lies. Younger men actually warm up with older women. These women take it as a “compliment” when a younger guy wants to have sex with her… but in reality, there is just no work involved. One drink and she’s off to the races.

Please know, I am aware how utterly insensitive that might sound to you about your ex wife. But perhaps you will see the value in it, and understand I only have good well-meaning intentions. If there is one thing we created the forum for, it’s so that guys can have some empathy since much of the world just doesn’t offer any. But I’m fascinated by your situation, as if one divorce wasn’t already enough.

Especially interesting was your comment about how you didn’t see a very obvious shift in dynamics when you got older. As soon as I hit 32, I was up to my neck in 19-21 year olds which NEVER happened prior. Even more interesting, the women I knew at 19 won’t stop calling and emailing. In fact, my SMV follows Rational Male’s “SMV” curve to an exact T… and the women I knew (know) match it too.

When I first saw it, it was like nature had unfolded a hidden secret I was semi-aware of, but couldn’t quite place.
Thanks very much for joining and making an introduction. Very happy to welcome you.

No doubt it sounds pretty strange that I would go to breakfast with a former wife. It is a long and complicated story. Here’s the short version: “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”

RE: “A second divorce.” I made lots of mistakes.

RE: “I am aware how utterly insensitive that might sound” Not at all. I don’t disagree with what you’ve said. Well, maybe I would qualify it, but in the main I don’t disagree. Older women fool themselves about the younger men who want a booty call, but they get a benefit out of it too: sex with a young, physically fit, and attractive man. Thus you could call the cougar relationship a win-win, no matter how much the parties deceive themselves and others.

RE: “Especially interesting was your comment about how you didn’t see a very obvious shift in dynamics when you got older. As soon as I hit 32, I was up to my neck in 19-21 year olds which NEVER happened prior.” In the sexual free marketplace, there will be winners and losers. Apparently, I am not among the winners. I have never (not once in my life) been “up to my neck in 19-21 year olds.” Perhaps at 32 one still seems young enough to be attractive, but old enough to potentially have resources.

The larger lesson here is very simple: different people have different experiences, which entails that different people have different experiences of the sexual free marketplace. Some (men and women) get as much or more than they want. Some get none (hence TFL). These experiences are at the far margins of the bell curve. Most are in the middle of the bell curve and they have mixed experiences. It would be relatively easy to break it down more.

You can find this diversity among MGTOWs. Spetsnaz in his videos mentions more than once that he gets plenty of female attention (he even lists the factors involved). Others say similar things. On the other hand, in some MGTOW videos one can detect an implicit TFL narrative in the background. Most men have (or have had, if they have decided they are finished) middling experiences with women, which often manifests itself as cycles of feast and famine.

The same bell curve will tell us that a few men will get a lot of attention from young women, a few will get none, and most will get some. For “young women” in the previous sentence, substitute any other demographic you like, salva veritate.

3. You are friend-zoned because women construe your excessive emotionality and want as feminine and needy. A woman wants to lose herself and feel secure in your masculinity. Most women are emotional and neurotic enough without having to deal with your emotional bulls~~~.

This is even more proof as to why I need to adopt and have bad luck with women. I have too many feminine traits that most likely make me a little too emotional and women must be able to pick up on it. It probably explains why I want to be a parent so bad at my age while most men don’t but women do. I am nowhere near as bad as a women, but I don’t feel I have to masculinity to keep a woman feeling secure all the time.

4. Never tolerate a woman’s bulls~~~. If a woman is emotional and upset, distract them, pick them up and dance, tell a story, take her for a walk. If that doesn’t work, leave her alone. If it never works, dump her. And remember, infidelity is never justifiable. A woman who uses you to rescue her, will eventually use another man to rescue her from you.

I am so guilty of this. My first girlfriends s~~~ wasn’t anything too bad, but my second girlfriend would blow everything out of proportion and think it was ok to verbally abuse me. One day we were at this fun place with games and such and she got mad because he didn’t ask her if she was hungry and was yelling at me on the drive home and refusing to answer if she wanted me to take her home, do something else, or go back to my house. I just dealt with it and ignored her, but today I would have been like “Bitch you have 2 options. You can either shut the f~~~ up or I can kick you out and leave you on the side of the free way” After she choose the first option I would have taken her home and as soon as she got out of the car said “we are done” and drive away lol.

12. Sometimes your dick knows things better than you do. If you can’t get it up for a particular women, that is your subconscious telling you that she is not right for you.

I have experienced that first hand lol.

She told me about how she broke up with her current boyfriend, and she immediately re-wrote her OK Cupid profile and before the end of the day had several new responses. She is now corresponding with a man less than half her age. if a woman is even reasonably attractive, she can take her pick and indulge her hypergamous instincts well into middle age.

My ex girlfriend uses OK cupid and met all of her boyfriends on there after dating me and I can say every single one was a loser who had some sort of problem and no father would want their daughter staying with someone like that. So rest assured that your ex is probably not with the best quality men.

“Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” Nice one.

Relieved you’re a good sport about my query regarding spending time with your ex/second wife, but fascinating and kudos for you opening up about it.

(unaware of what TFL means… “tossing for life”?)

Like I said in a previous comment somewhere, there was a video about the horrors of marriage, and a MGTOW left the comment I won’t soon forget. He said “I used to feel bad that I was not good (or attractive) enough for most women to marry. But now I am inclined to celebrate it.”

If a woman is emotional and upset, distract them, pick them up and dance, tell a story, take her for a walk.

I used to think appeasing her with some grand gesture would work, but in the same way that a running to the crib every time the baby cries, you are effectively TRAINING her to be more of a cry-baby. So it took a few years, but I learned it was more effective to be displeased about her behavior and tell her I wasn’t impressed and wouldn’t put up with it. Then SHE would make an effort to appease me, which was a script reversal that worked(!) many times, but they would eventually get hip to my jive.

(“Wait a minute, when I start drama, he puts me in my place and I end up giving him a blow job? That’s not right.”)

Even later still, I swiftly came to the firm conclusion that outbursts and unprompted dramatic fits could all be cured with a good f~~~, and that’s basically what she is asking for. They love makeup sex. Live and learn.