– If women cheat, there is a justification for it that bails them out.

– If men cheat, there is none, or masculinity is to blame, or patriarchy.

Did I get it right?

Called it. Men’s motives are always shallow and selfish, and women’s motives are noble and selfless.

“In an affair the end of a relationship?”

Should be.

“Monogamy has nothing to do with love”

Really now? It is easy for women to say that, since they are the ones f~~~ing around all the time and are unable to be satisfied with only one partner.

Besides, one have only to look at the many articles that boast about open relationships, just for the current relationship be dissolved…

“Men rely on women fidelity in order to know who children these are and who gets the cows when I die.”

Utter and total disregard for what a men feels. No mention to the emotions of empathy and support a man might expect from a partner. Men are these simple creatures with no emotional depth, that only partners with women because of physical intimacy. Is almost like we were not human, isn’t it?

“The definition of infidelity keeps on expanding…” for WOMEN, men’s definition of infidelity seems to be a constant to me.

“On top of it, we are walking contradictions, so 95 % of us will say it is a terrible wrong our partner to lie about having an affair, but just the same amount of us will say that’s exactly what we would do if we would have an affair.”

I hope that by “us” she is referring to WOMEN ONLY. She already demonstrated she has NO IDEA how a man thinks…

And the madness goes on…

“In an affair the end of a relationship?”

The way all guys here look at it, myself included, hell yes.

After seeing your perspective, I rescind some of my comment, but she is a woman, there is a limit on how truly unbiased she can be. However, she said “Why do we think men cheat for this and women for that,” it wasn’t an accusation, and it seemed to me that it wasn’t intended to be specifically.

Holly… What a load of crap!

This woman almost glorify affairs. She speaks from the female perspective, always finding reasons to justify it, while acknowledging (to a minimal degree) its bad consequences. And then there is the “self-discovery” argument, so common on open relationships advocates. Why is that for women, they can’t “discover” themselves WITHOUT f~~~ing around, like, literally? Didn’t they know that exist things called… HOBBIES?

If anything, this is a red pill, and a strong one, on how WOMEN see relationships… and affairs.

Geez… The hamster wheel is strong on this one.

What we have going on today is mostly reverse harems, where a woman maintains associations with men over a long period of time that benefit her. Some men she f~~~s a lot when she is available, some she stays more monogamous with, some are purely orbiters that never even get a sniff.

Holly… What a load of crap!

Yup. (I’m saying that a lot lately. It’s an impolite shorthand for I agree, but I am not articulate enough to explain why better than you did.)

Women sleep around because they want to ride more dick. It isn’t any more complicated than that.

Actually it is, but just a little bit. You see, the experiment in 1989 established the precedent that men, by nature, are not monogamous and are more likely to sleep with anything with a pulse (heck, even without it). Even the men on this forum believe that.

But there was a flaw in the ’89 experiment (hint: women didn’t give honest answers out of fear of slut shaming or sexual violence). You can read the laughable study here.

The truth is, men would never cheat as long as they’re getting enough, but when it comes to women, they’d cheat because they love having sex with strange men (not making  this up) and her husband is not “strange” anymore.

Another experiment at USC proves how the society’s expectations skews self reporting. “How many sexual partners do you anticipate over the course of your life?”
Women’s average answer: 2-3
Men’s average answer: 64
The pressure that caused women to under report was the same pressure that caused men to over report.