Having your own children is really quite the blessing, and just because today’s women are unable to think, it does not mean men have to give up on a family of our own. Women, in their zeal for free benefits, have created a system that benefits the MGTOW who wants his own family. Also, since women enjoy sex, well into their 30’s, the demand for fertility technology has grown exponentially. It is a great time to be an independent man, because we now get to have our own family too, without the additional burden of raising a “woman” child at the same time. MGTOWs before us have paved the way for the future.

Most fathers in these forums would agree that raising children is a true gift. Nowadays, however it comes wrapped around an intolerable breed of women, who are a burden on man. I suspect pleasing one’s wife takes about the same amount of energy as two children on average. Reasoned comments are welcome, as I may have just seen the worst. Perhaps they are equal to only one child?. Regardless, if you have the energy to put up with one golden uterus, you have the ability, time, and energy to be a great single father to your kids. And, you do not need a “mother” around to “help raise your kids”.  Women these days on average cause more harm than good. Financially, they will drain you far more than the cost of a child or two. I do not know how it worked in the past, but women these days make poor life decisions. Either the man got to make the decisions in the past, or he controlled the money so bad decisions did not cause such harm. Regardless, you are far better off without a woman messing up your kids lives. Trust me, you can do it without their sort of help.

The Tech: Because women want to enjoy sex with many men for a longer period of time than in the past, they tend to try and have children when they are older.  Unfortunately, women in their 30’s are not as fertile as they are when they are in their early 20’s. This trend grew into an incredibly large  fertility industry, mostly advanced by men of course. They can now easily take your sperm, combine it with a a donor egg from a healthy woman, and create embryos for you. Each one can be your son or your daughter.

You can now have your own child, lawfully yours, without the baggage of woman. It only costs about $100,000 to get an egg and your sperm together to produce embryos and this includes the surrogate uterus to carry your son or daughter to full term. It is not a small amount, but it is certainly attainable by any MGTOW before they are 30. For an additional 25K you can probably make sure you are getting prime genetics – For example, I am short. I would want a tall, hyper-intelligent woman, who is attractive and is athletic for my egg donor. Yes, this is exactly like women do at sperm banks. I would then have embryos created with my sperm and XX top-notch genetic profile. Within 5 years, we men will be able to remove genetic diseases from these embryos. Your child will not be burdened by poor genetics, nor the rest of your offspring,  forever.

Oh, kids are so expensive, women say. Well, yes and no. A child of a MGTOW will probably cost about $1500 per month for daycare & food. The second kid is about $1000 per month. These costs drop dramatically after the first 5 years. If you are not wealthy enough to pay for that, men get to take advantage of government programs designed to help children – except a MGTOW father will actually use the money for his kids. There is no shame in the State helping you raise productive citizens. Hell, I would love to know my taxes go to help raise a generation of real men and women, raised by men of honor. I trust that more than any woman.

In terms of effort, kids are a lot of work when they are young. But it is no more work than what a MGTOW might do to achieve other successes. Fortunately, MGTOW before us have given us pretty much everything we need to gets succeed through the challenging times. We have a dishwasher that takes us 10 minutes a day to use. We got a vacuum and washing machine. It takes another 20 minutes a day for both of those. Men of the last generation even gave us the microwave so we can warm up food quickly. Recent MGTOWs have invented cameras that can watch the kids for us even when they are in another room. Men invented jogging strollers that hold two kids and give us a workout.

I think we should not take for granted the men before us who saw the feminist movement for what is might become. They wanted mankind to continue after the wreckage. They gave us everything we need to have our own family without a woman. They gave us formula to make up for a women’s breast. They created daycare systems so we could still work and our children could still receive warmth and caring. They gave us all kinds of technology in the home to make it easy for us to spend real time guiding our children, instead of distracting housework. I hope that true men of honor who want to help raise tomorrow’s children understand that we do not need a women to be involved in our children’s development. (They will get all that in school). MGTOWs can have it all.

It only costs about $100,000 to get an egg and your sperm together to produce embryos and this includes the surrogate uterus to carry your son or daughter to full term.

Then the rented uterus decides to break your contract and keep the child.  She cries in front of a judge and he agrees that she should keep custody thanks to the “tender years” doctrine and also gets to keep your $100k for the sake of the child, and now you’re on the hook for child support for the next two decades.

Regardless of the technology, with the courts and the laws the way they are it’s way too expensive and way too much risk.  And not worth either.  No thank you.

@Rusky

I did not say artificial womb. That is decades away (although, men might demand it much sooner). You can rent a woman to carry the baby, with no legal rights to that baby. You use your genetics and some women’s egg you pick out of a book. He or she is YOUR son or YOUR daughter at the end of 10 months.

For a few hundred dollars, you can get breast milk for that baby if that is a concern. You can also hire a nanny if you think a young woman would actually be good for you kid. I posit that kids will get all the female influence they can bear while going to school. It is a man’s job to counteract all that. And work, of course.

The thing of it is this: Any man can save 100K if he wants to have a family. Society says you need a woman too. You do not.

Ideally, men would have children with real women who are raised to be boys and girls…not girls and girls.  No matter how you go about it, the State does not want you to raise men.  The State wants boys that are sensitive, caring, willing to knuckle-under at the mere hint of a disagreement with a female, indecisive, dependent on the opinion of others, and completely neutered and nonaggressive.  The State wants to indoctrinate every boy to sacrifice himself for others.  The State must be rejected.  Completely.  Law Makers are blind fools leading others into a ditch.

I completely agree with Russky…Formula? Day Cares?    OH YEAH… drop your kid off with a stranger that dropped out of high school and earns $7.85 per hour.  Your little man will be playing with dolls and being told “girls first” for eight hours a day, all year.  Abort!

The world is burning as we speak.  Grab a beer and watch the s~~~ go down.

If you’re wealthy, of course you do not let the State teach your kids. However, it does not truly matter.  You can easily talk sense into your kids. They really do listen to their parent. The State created schools so the slaves could work.  Schools are good enough to be babysitters and teach basics. The parent must educate the child. It has been that way for thousands of years.

Anyway, being a father is one option in life. We no longer have to deal with a woman if we choose to go that way.

I say skip the whole deal. Get a vasectomy and dog.  

Vasectomy: They are dangerous. Personally, I was in pain for several years. My left nut tube grew back too. I have the kid to prove it (and yes, I got tests).  I got a friend who was disabled because of his doc. You do not want me to describe that.

It is 2015 and women have men cutting up their b~~~~ by the millions every year. F~~~, how did this ever become the norm!? What will historians say?

Keep your b~~~~ gentlemen. There will be a shot or drug soon enough.

The law is on your side.

No.  Not even close.  I don’t know where you got that idea.  A quick google search comes up with hundreds of cases where surrogates have been allowed to break their contract.  Hell, surrogacy itself isn’t even legal in all states.  And just what do you think is going to happen if a single man tries to go the foreign route when he tries to bring the child back home?  He’ll get hammered by child “protective services” and customs.

Consider for a moment that even with the tremendous glut of unwanted children taken from incredibly incompetent druggie mothers out there, most places still won’t allow single men to even be foster parents.  Even gay couples are given more credit for child rearing than single men.  The instant CPS gets wind of some bizarre single father foreign surrogacy scheme, assuming it’s not just a scam to get $100k out of you, they will swoop in to “protect” the child from you.

The law is not on your side.  The law is not your friend.  The law sees you as nothing more than a bank account, and it sure as hell doesn’t see you as a single parent.

— April 1st, 2120 We shall never Forget.

Thanks for pointing it out, Sidecar.