Everytime I consider depression Im experiencing such as, is the juice really worth the squeeze, in terms of what I have to put in and NOT get out, I subconsciously hear “man up!”. But culture today is a vastly different experience for men, than at other times. The deck is stacked against us. So a few questions:

1. Do you deal with depression?

2. How do you deal with it?

3. Do you think men are more proned to a TRUER sense of depression than women? And by “truer” I mean on a much more pervasive and deeper level than a whimsical fleeting females emotions.

Honest input is appreciated.

And eventually he left the house and went on with his life, but i can only imagine the loneliness he was going through. And today i can see this is just a symptom of our current society, that makes men think they have to “man up” through all their problems.

About the third question, i would say yes, totally. Last week i saw a girl commenting on a band’s page, saying she felt so sad and was cutting herself. But i went to her facebook page and she was constantly uploading pictures of herself and had many friends, male and female, saying how she was beautifull and stuff. A man won’t have that. Male loneliness is a boulder so big, only a man is strong enough to carry.

I am refferring to depression based on losing loved ones, losing money (2008), and simply the human comedy of the irony of our experience in this world. To answer your question I have been depressed when I am in great shape, and typically the only time I am out of shape is the EFFECT of being depressed NOT the CAUSE. This is the case because I become more of a recluse, just like the poster above you stated about his father’s story.

What is next when the roots are already known? The answer is, to learn the method which can get rid of them and apply this method in life. What is the method mentioned? It is the purification of the mind. Why purify the mind? Because it is a producer which can create everything from small to big, so greed, hatred and delusion try to conquer some parts of the mind, or the whole of it. If the mind is pure, nothing can take root in it; as the Buddha said in Dhammapada, “Mind precedes all mental states. Mind is their chief; they are all mind-wrought. If with a pure mind a person speaks or acts, happiness follows him like his never-departing shadow”. Take good care of your mind, then your life will be safe.

http://www.buddhapadipa.org/dhamma-corner/what-is-the-root-cause-of-suffering/

I agree. There is a proverb that states – “he who has no rule over his spirit (mind) is like a city with its walls torn down”. In other words, if you have no rule over your mind/thpughts, then ANYTHING can be taken from you OR toxically placed in your head.

I personally struggle the most with hpw to get out of the depths of it once its already kicked in.

Totally relate to the story of your father and thanks for sharing. Much appreciated.

@ zone,

Thanks for your input as well and your past situation.

@ Crazy cunuck,

I appreciate your input as well. There is a difference between the “stress” you mention and what Im refferring to. The “f~~~ it” attitude works for me when Im stressed. But the “f~~~ it” attitide in respect to depression would lead one to not think life is worth living. Big difference.