MGTOWMARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 18:56:49 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/page/407/#post-32673 <![CDATA[MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/page/407/#post-32673 Sat, 21 Mar 2015 02:03:00 +0000 Robert Hallam When it comes to cheating men are oblivious and women are concealing. When it comes to getting caught women are snoopy and men are careless. So it is little wonder that even though women cheat on men just as much as men cheat on women, it’s the women in the majority of cases that come up with the evidence and file for divorce first. But when a wife or girlfriend cheats, it’s generally her spouse that is the last to know. Guys, you have to get the evidence first. Here are a few tips.
Communication Devices
Snooping on your partner is a sign of insecurity and lack of trust. We don’t want snooping. If a relationship is based on trust a husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend should have no objection to her partner having full access to their spouse’s cell phone, text messages, e-mail accounts, photos, user names, contact list, and passwords, etc. Having a casual or occasional look at your spouse’s day-to-day communications isn’t snooping but keeping abreast of what’s going on in their lives. But if one of the partners won’t let you borrow their phone, keeps it locked all the time, hides the screen when messages arrive, deletes all their messages and e-mails, turns it off after looking at who’s calling, or walks away to talk, then he/she has something to hide.
Women are the communicators, and a cell phone is her life line. If she’s having an affair she’s constantly thinking how do I keep him interested while I’m with my husband, keeping him away from someone more available, or letting him know ways they can get together? That’s when the sexting starts. She’ll use very graphic messages and pictures to keep him expecting more. She can’t keep him wanting her more with texts like “Are we supposed to be working late on Friday”? To keep the partners level of anticipation up and to make sure he gets the message there’s more and better to come, she’s got to write sexts like “I can’t wait ‘till I can wrap my lips around you dick again.”
Women who are cheating are running a balancing act. They don’t want to lose the husband, and father of the kids, until they are absolutely sure the new guy is going to step up. And they don’t want to lose the new guy until they figure out how to get rid of the husband. So if your spouse displays any of the behaviour described above, or you flat out expect she’s having an affair, there is plenty of technology in the form of a simple inexpensive app, that you can load on to a cell phone that will allow your cell phone to see what messages are being exchanged in real time, and can recover text messages even when deleted.
Surveillance Devices
Invariably a woman cheats with someone she already knows; a family member like a brother-in-law, a co-worker, or a boss, or an ex. You will probably have already met him. The list is generally limited. But sooner or later she’s going to want or find a way to hook up. Even teenage girls are adept at escaping through a window. The problem is you don’t know when or where, and on top of that, you’ve got to go to work or go out of town. When it comes to where, it could be his place, a hotel, or your home, and even in the car. But don’t let this deter you. The technology is available to give you real time feedback on where she is, using the GPS function of her cell phone or a tracking device installed on her car. These technologies work even when the car is parked or the cell phone is off. If she’s meeting someone somewhere other than your home, it shouldn’t take you long to figure it out. If your home is the rendezvous, you’ll need just one or two miniaturized nanny-cams or pin-hole cameras that are triggered by a motion detector and strategically placed. She’s going to be getting ready for his arrival, and she’s going to want a comfortable place to screw.
Paternity Testing Devices
Paternity testing covers two different scenarios. The first is she’s claiming that she’s pregnant and accusing you of being the biological father. The second is that you are not the biological father of the children you are supporting or being ordered by the courts to support.
We’ve all seen cases without resorting to watching Jerry Springer, where a woman is pressuring a partner to marry, or pony up, because of an unexpected pregnancy. In many cases the actual date of inception, if not also the biological partner, is in question. Every man wants and has a right to know if an expected child is his or not. In these cases the man is entitled to see the results of a pregnancy test (and I don’t mean a stick you pee on) and an ultrasound. If she’s pregnant, then the expectant father is entitled to have an approximate date of inception and date of delivery. Once the baby arrives, he is entitled to ask for a DNA test for paternity before his name is placed on the child’s Birth Certificate. A test sample of the mother is not required. If the mother refuses to allow a sample of the baby’s blood or saliva to be taken once it is born, then you can be absolutely sure the baby’s biological father is someone else less reliable.
With respect to the second issue during a divorce, it is simply a matter of determining which children of a partnership are the biological offspring of the supposed father. At the request of appellants, some Courts are now granting father’s requests for paternity testing before awarding child support. Up until just recently, the cost of having a paternity test has been prohibitive. But with PCR, DNA analyses has become very inexpensive. Laboratories usually ask for blood samples, because of the accuracy needed.
In the 70’s it was well known fact in medical circles and advanced blood testing that between 10% and 15% of children were being raised by men other than the biological fathers. That number has gone up with the testing of additional blood factors to around about 15% to 20%. That of course includes groups such as adopted children, but it is surprisingly high. While it has always been commonly believed that men cheat more often than women, the question has always been who are these men cheating with? New evidence suggests that women actually cheat just as much as men but men are more likely to be caught. With the new technology that is going to change.
Infidelity DNA Testing
With the number of genetic laboratories springing up across the country, we have seen a large number offering DNA testing for forensic, paternity, relationship, immigration, and ancestry purposes. They are also now fully capable of infidelity testing using blood, semen, saliva and stains on underwear (panties), sheets and clothing. Bill Clinton will remember the little blue dress. Their services are confidential and inexpensive. A paternity test for example costs about $250 and a test for presence of the male XY chromosome is just $100. Laboratories provide test kits and instructions on collecting samples, freezing clothing, and submitting samples.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-32694 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-32694 Sat, 21 Mar 2015 03:33:24 +0000 harpo-my-"SON" Maybe the few married guys lurking will find something helpful here..I myself used the old police trick saying “your partner in crime done spilled the beans”..Got the guy and my ex-wife to confess…

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-33971 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-33971 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 08:28:24 +0000 Primus_Pilus Interesting summary of the technology available.    However, study the laws in your state carefully.   At least one of these tactics is a Class A misdemeanor with a fine and jail time of 6 to 12 months for doing it.

Texas Penal Code

Sec. 16.06.  UNLAWFUL INSTALLATION OF TRACKING DEVICE.  (a)  In this section:

(1)  “Electronic or mechanical tracking device” means a device capable of emitting an electronic frequency or other signal that may be used by a person to identify, monitor, or record the location of another person or object.

(2)  “Motor vehicle” has the meaning assigned by Section 501.002, Transportation Code.

(b)  A person commits an offense if the person knowingly installs an electronic or mechanical tracking device on a motor vehicle owned or leased by another person.

(c)  An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-34029 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-34029 Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:11:59 +0000 Smitty the Great One but Primus, do you know what a motor vehicle is? The Devil is in the details…

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-35225 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-35225 Mon, 30 Mar 2015 00:43:34 +0000 J.D Silvernail Well the best way to avoid marriage infidelity is to become a single-womanizer and never get married.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45369 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45369 Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:35:38 +0000 Robert Hallam Hello All; especially Won’tGetFooledAgain

I get so tired of reading where female infidelity is rationalized as being a fault of the husband; usually stated as the husband failed or wasn’t fulfilling her “needs”; whatever that may entail since I have never yet seen a decent definition of what a woman’s “needs” are. But I am a retired biologist with a long history with women. In my younger days I would have been labeled an Alpha male concealed in an outward Beta persona. My concealed Alpha traits came down to me directly from my mother (a tart, slut, or whore, you name it) and my outward Beta traits came down to me from my father who was an upstanding honorable man with Victorian principles. My mother made my father’s life a living hell, but he stuck it out until all the kids, of doubtful paternity, had grown and moved out, just to see his wife (my mother) cheat one more time and leave him for another man. Her infidelity was always just barely hidden but blatantly obvious to me and my siblings.

I apologize for the foregoing digression but I thought a little of my background was necessary. So back to a comparison between male and female infidelity. I’m not a family or marriage councilor. My expertise in this subject area is based entirely on first hand knowledge of several cases of infidelity in which I have been involved. As I mentioned in a previous post, I have an ability, which I don’t think is in any way unique and probably common among men in general, to be able to walk into a room, filled with couples and within a few minutes, being able to identify right away which women would be susceptible to a flirtatious approach and would willingly cheat on their husbands / boyfriends. They themselves may not know it, and may not be thinking about it, but they exude characteristics of “the type”. You can forget about the dowdy ones. The ones I’m referring to are the chatty ones, the extroverts who are trying just a little to hard; dressed a little too sexy; act a little too animated.

In my experience here is how it all starts; at least this was my modus operandi. Get these women by themselves for less than five minutes private conversation. Even in a crowded room where her husband and everyone else can see her, being in an intimate situation (just you and her) she becomes all ears and eyes. In this semi-intimate situation women change. They want desperately to know if she’s desirable, attractive, and alluring enough for you to want to get her into bed. That’s what she’s looking and listening for. That may be a bit bluntly stated but that is in fact exactly what I have found to be the case. If you talk about fence paint, forget it. If you are looking into her eyes, boobs, and hips, she’s watching. She notices. It’s just fun at this point and she can claim she was just being friendly. What she wants now is verbal confirmation she’s giving you a hard on (at least some sexual impact). She doesn’t want to be thought of as “not sexy”. Her ears are connected directly to her libido. If she hears what she’s looking for, basically that you find her irresistible (alternatively gorgeous, stunning, etc) and would love to have just a taste, she’ll have gotten what she wanted, and more for the moment. Her husband can’t possibly compete with this; it’s just not a thrill or normal practice for a husband to go around trying to seduce his wife. But, rather than the seeds of doubt, at this point the seeds of her fantasies have been sewn. Here is where female infidelity starts getting disgusting. This gets translated into the other man (OM) gave her a compliment; was fulfilling her “needs” which her husband didn’t. It’s never stated that the OM made her horny and she really wanted to know “if he thinks I’m that great what would it be like to f~~~ the guy”.

Doesn’t really matter what the OM was like, she can’t leave it alone in her mind. Because it doesn’t happen to her that often, it’s addicting. She starts fantasizing, and the OM becomes the focus of her fantasies. Of course she’s not going to tell her husband what she feels. All she’ll say is “OH yeah, I had a really good time and that OM is a really nice guy”. She’s not going to tell her husband that she would sure like a tumble in the sack with the OM just to see what it’s like.

Her fantasies turn into what women call emotional infidelity (not real infidelity). Believing the OM finds her desirable, alluring or whatever, she wants more (her “needs”). She wants to try really impressing him. She’ll start planning. If there’s a way to get a repeat accidental meeting with the OM, she’ll push her husband in that direction. But one way or another she’ll find a way. She’ll find a way to get that intimacy again but this time she’ll be going all out to impress the guy. She’ll actually be doing the initiating (even at the getting ready to go out stage) even it it’s the OM that says hello. She knows exactly what’s going on. And this, in my experience, is where contact information is exchanged with the very implicit expectation that she wants more to come. She’ll be quite open about how and when to contact her (“E-mail me at work”, “Call me tomorrow morning after 9:00”). For him, the OM, to stay interested she has to spice up the text messages or the phone calls with promises of excitement. He’ll be doing the same.

Without going into details it is my experience that she’ll be the one to direct the affair from this point onward, arranging rendezvous, setting the time and place, hiding it from her husband, being sneaky, conniving, lying and what have you. The range of human frailties that women will stoop to in hiding their illicit affairs becomes disgusting. And believe me the sex and intrigue is one huge aphrodisiac and that’s what she’s there for. But it will all be justified by tell everyone she was searching for the intimacy she didn’t get from her husband. She has “needs” that her husband didn’t fulfill. What a load of crap.

When the infidelity comes to the surface, it all becomes the husbands fault that she strayed. Oh yeah! She would never say, she just wanted an exciting f~~~ on the side. She’ll call it emotional infidelity and the sex wasn’t important. This is entirely bulls~~~ and an attempt to minimize the significance of her infidelity. But a man would tell it like it is and he’s condemned to committing physical infidelity. He didn’t have any “needs” that his wife wasn’t fulfilling. He didn’t “need” to be complimented, have his ego boosted, felt to be attractive, felt to be desired by other women. No the guy was just plain old horny and couldn’t keep his dick in his pants.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45423 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45423 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:37:01 +0000 Won'tGetFooledAgain Robert Hallam,  you have just described the final few months of my marriage perfectly.  You have also just reminded me of a situation that happened to me about a month before we split.  We were at a wedding and I was sitting next to a couple who were in their late 20’s.  She was fairly hot and he looked a bit of a douche to be honest.  I was a complete Blue Pill Beta at this point and took everything at face value.

A few hours into the wedding she turns to face me and just starts talking to me.  We chat for about 15 minutes and I think nothing more of it.  As I start talking to my wife she tells me that the woman was interested in me.  I tell her that she is mistaken and she starts telling me about how the woman I was chatting to had deliberately turned her back to her boyfriend and was flirting with me.

Now I realise my wife spotted all of this as she was doing the same thing with other men at the time.   A friend of ours who I had not seen in a year or two spoke to us as we were leaving and told us there was something going on between my wife and I.  He told my wife that if she was cheating on me, he would find the guy and sort him out.  My wife told him that he was being silly and nothing was going on.

He was 100% spot on and like you, I think he can instantly spot the women who are looking for this attention.

I personally think that eventually all women go looking for this attention if they think they can get it.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45799 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45799 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 16:28:54 +0000 Exsliventxs I don’t care if I’m cheating or not, if I’m just dating you, you don’t get to go through my personal s~~~ because you feel insecure. You can keep your hands off my phone/wallet/laptop etc.

Now in marriage, this may not be true, but then, I’m not getting married.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45813 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45813 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 17:27:21 +0000 Robert Hallam How right you are.  I have found in my experience that women tend to cheat mainly for sexual gratification after getting hooked on flattery.  And this s~~~ about it being on the spur of the moment and her not being able to stop herself is total crap.  Women do a lot of planning and thinking about infidelity long before it happens.  They are the ones who generally control it and initiate it.  All this other bulls~~~ about having to fulfill my emotional needs is rationalization, and just that; BS. Why do I think this or actually know this? Because if women were honest about their cheating and only cheated for intimacy, closeness and all that other BS, then men who are faithful, loving and caring would never get cheated on,  Yet it is precisely these kinds of men, the Bata pussies, who get cheated on the most.  She has no respect for him.

It is far better to be an Alpha male (husband) that lets his wife know in no uncertain terms that if she ever strayed or even appeared to have strayed, it would be game over.  No second chance.  The marriage would be over.  And be absolutely clear about this,  In addition he should always let his wife feel that he would cheat on her at any time, with any thing, and any where.  She should always have that feeling of a little insecurity.  The feeling that she dare not trust you for a minute, that she has to keep an eye on you all the time, I think you get what I mean.

I also personally believe that women cheat more than men do, are much better liars, much better at concealing their infidelity, and get away with it far more than men.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45986 <![CDATA[Reply To: MARRIAGE INFIDELITY – YOU ARE GOING TO LIKE THIS POST]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/marriage-infidelity-you-are-going-to-like-this-post/#post-45986 Thu, 30 Apr 2015 01:45:11 +0000 DarthW I believe you are right Robert that such personalities are often discernible.  When I once had a job in home medical equipment, I got to where I could pretty accurately predict the folks who I’d be tracking down to retrieve the equipment from a pawn shop, relatives home, etc.  and the ones who would be super compliant, etc.  The same goes for cheating hobags.

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