MGTOWManipulative Mothers – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:14:25 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/page/488/#post-9837 <![CDATA[Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/page/488/#post-9837 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 02:29:40 +0000 AlmostNiceGuy  

I know I’m not the only one who’s mother has done things like this. My blue-pilled self would have thought that he is being insensitive and cruel. Now I see that not only is the mother emotionally manipulating him, “squeezing” him from the inside out, but also that the whole thing seems like a s~~~ test. Think about it, the mother goes from a state of denial, to anger, to negotiation, to sadness, to playing the “victim”, all to get her son out the car. This entire situation happened because the mother didn’t get what she want, her son to leave the car, and rather than accepting it and trying to remain calm, she not only tries to emotionally perturb the child, by making him feel like he is hurting her and being “spoiled”(god I hate the word), but also trying to get the officers to sympathize with her, and when that doesn’t work wants to pull him out by force. My mother would use those same tactics when I would stand my ground about certain beliefs she didn’t agree with; being agnostic, weightlifting, hell even going to a college in a different country. And to those things I say “F~~~ THAT”, hell It’ll be a cold day in hell before I take that sort of s~~~ again. sorry for the rant, just have to vent out a bit. anyway I don’t know if this video has already been posted somewhere, but I believe it shows the basic process and stages of the “S~~~ Test”. cheers

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9845 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9845 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:39:48 +0000 Maillesmith My god…

The father did the smartest thing he could have by recording the event in it’s entirety, and keeping his mouth shut as much as he did. I have to admit I didn’t watch the entire 72 minutes, but I watched a fair amount and the entire police scene (which by the way, starts around 50:00 I think). I was very impressed by the way the police handled it and would be surprised if this man didn’t get custody of his son with this recording as character evidence.

This woman emotionally abused her child, repetitively on camera. And then works up a good tear when the police arrive and barely speaks a calm word the entire time the police are there. And then threatening to press charges (1:05:00) for her son rolling the window up to prevent her from unlocking the door and catching her arm in the process. The look on the police officer’s face was priceless, “You want to press assault charges on your son for rolling up the window?”

In addition to berating and “squeezing” her 14 year old son to get out of the car, she attacks the father’s character repetitively; after each time she would say to her son “Oh, I’m sorry, I shouldn’t be talking about this in front of you.” She states many times that the father is a bad influence on the son and insults his political views, choice of employment, choice in living accommodations. She brings a completely adult and personal discussion between the father and mother of the child on the table in front of her son, in an effort to belittle the boy’s father in front of him. She never refers to the boy’s father as “your father”, yet calls the step father “your daddy”. It’s appalling that she would insult the boy’s father in front of the child.

I despise my son’s mother, always will. But I will not speak ill of her in front of my child, and have demanded family members refrain from doing it either. Adult concerns, and personal dramas are not the domain of children. My son’s mother doesn’t contribute financially to his upbringing, I don’t tell my son she don’t love him enough to buy clothes for him; or that she’d rather buy pot then help pay for sports. I just shut my mouth and let my son love his mother. For now at least, she and I have a cease-fire and DO NOT fight or discuss our issues with one another. At the age of 3, my son has even told me “You and mommy are friends because you both love me” on the way to her house for the weekend.

Belittling her child and defaming the father, this woman committed the pure definition of emotional abuse on her 14 year old son. One line in the first ten minutes was just sickening. “By not coming home you’re telling your siblings you don’t love them”. What a cruel tactic to play on a boy. “If you don’t do this, you don’t love me”

Finally I have to say that step-dad shouldn’t have said a f~~~ing word. When he started adding his two-cents, I’m not sure if I could have fought the urge to step out of my truck with a tire-iron in my hand (we don’t have many guns, legally, here in Canada).

Utmost respect to the father for his composure and to the 14 year old boy who only raised his voice to be heard over his mother’s wailings.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9850 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9850 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 05:05:48 +0000 Maillesmith

At the age of 3, my son has even told me “You and mommy are friends because you both love me” on the way to her house for the weekend.

I did have the correct my son though,

“Your mommy and I are friendly because we love you”

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9852 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-9852 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 05:36:39 +0000 jack reacher F~~~ing worthless mother c~~~s. They are the ones initiating most of the divorces because they know the courts will give them the big payout. And some scumbag lawyer will tell them exactly how to play the game, rigged in their favor. In fact it has nothing to do with the interests of the children, because they become pawns for the c~~~s to manipulate. Worthless bitches are more concerned about aborting fetuses than actually raising children in the best interests of the child. Because apparently now, acting in the interests of the child is the patriarchy oppressing c~~~s.

You never see the abuse of children appear in domestic abuse stats, because with the the divorce rate and number of single parent, and c~~~ mothers raising the kids, they are the often the  ones beating the s~~~ out of the kids and getting a free pass from CFS and the courts. To say nothing of the long term impact of children growing up without a stable father figure in the house. I guess we end up with the f~~~ up feminized society we have now.

Sorry for the profanity but it is quite a despicable situation.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10005 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10005 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 19:47:33 +0000 jambear I wish I had the b~~~~ at 14 that this kid showed.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10012 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10012 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:34:01 +0000 TYE I can’t wait to get out of the house my 18th birthday is January 13th, and i’m extremely eager in getting my Marine Corps enlistment process started immediately after !!!  Once I leave home I will never look back, and I have already told my mother and Mangina father that they both will rarely see me (a few times yearly).

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10015 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10015 Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:54:00 +0000 TheNinjaUWannaH8 Wowwwwwwwwwwwww.

I watched the ENTIRE video…I was literally in Tears for Lil Guy. Yep…A Ninja can Cry. Especially for a Lil Dude who’s trapped with a manipulative Mom and Step-Mangina.

This is another Reminder for me:

(1) NEVA Get Married.

(2) NEVA have kids biologically with ANYONE.  Adoption OR Neva having Kids are the Only Options.  Even Surrogacy is Legally risky.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10030 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10030 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 07:23:24 +0000 Keymaster This is a terrific example. Watched the whole thing months ago. That f~~~ing air-of-supreriority “do as I say” s~~~….. and then turning around and balling when she doesn’t get her way. It’s really the feminist M.O. exposed. All it takes for it to fail is a simple refusal to subscribe to it – beginning with “no”. Just “no”. The how and the why is irrelevant, its the “no” a woman just doesn’t know what to do with.

Sometimes I see women and their kids and think they had children just to boss them around.

Has she ever tried being a nice person? Or being a Mom so good her son might WANT To get out of the car and be with her? Just like a woman to bark orders “do this”, “do that”, and if you don’t propose by Christmas, you’re gonna die alone. What a way to make a man want to come home. Threaten and scare tactics.

Then you say “no. I don’t want anything to do with you” and the whole pretense falls apart.

Good for him for standing up to her.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10064 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10064 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:01:54 +0000 Hammerdown Just…wow. I usually wouldn’t have sat down and watched a video of this length, but after about the 5 minute mark it became like a car accident. I couldn’t look away. Hell, I actually made notes of points I wanted to bring up.

-The mother was clearly gaslighting the kid “You did do that, you just probably forgot.” Trying to get him to question his own memories. Despicable.

-She talks s~~~ about her husband for running an “industrial engine business”. All I could think was “So?” Who cares what the guy does for a living, be it a doctor, and industrial engine technician or a garbage man. He’s working hard to provide for himself, his son and probably to get child support for her. So long as he isn’t forcing his son to work there, who cares? Later she says that he lives at his shop, and all I could think was “Gee, that house you’re living in looks pretty nice. I wonder if you paid for that with the alimony and child support? I also wonder if those same payments are the reason why he has to live in his machine shop?”

-One thing the dad (and to a lesser extent the kid, although he did get upset and emotional later on, and rightfully so) did amazingly was just keeping quiet. This is an invaluable tool in an argument, especially with women. By staying silent, they tend to talk to fill the air. And when you couple that with the fact he’s recording everything she says, you have a double whammy.

-She keeps bringing up his age in response to legitimate questions. Every time he asks or says something that challenges her, she dismisses it with “You’re 14, you don’t understand, you’re a minor.” You don’t have to be an adult to recognize emotional manipulation or differentiate right from wrong.

-“You’re in turmoil every time you come back from a weekend with your dad.” To me this screams denial. She is absolutely convinced that it’s something the dad has been doing to make him this upset every time he comes back. In her mind, there’s no possible way the reason he’s upset is because he doesn’t want to live with her.

-“Your backpack/all your things are in there.” That sounds pretty benign at first, but a red flag shot up when I heard it. That sounds like blackmail. “If you don’t come in, I’ll get rid of all your stuff,” is a manipulation tactic that’s been used against me dozens of times. This proves true at the end when he goes in to get his schoolbooks and clothes and she tries to physically prevent him from leaving.

-When she talks to the police on the phone, she flat out lies about him being made to stay in the truck. Trying to make it sound like the father is refusing to let him out, when he says multiple times “I won’t make him get out. It’s his choice.” Also, I love how she says “You’re his father. You can make him get out of your truck.” Yeah, because your “I’m your mother, get out of the truck” idea was working so well, right? Also, look at how THE SECOND she takes the phone she turns on the tears.

-“You only see him 48 days out of the year.” She tries to use this to convince him that he shouldn’t stay with him, but the reason he can only see him so little is YOU MADE IT THAT WAY. You could have easily asked for shared custody or for more time with his father, but no, you opted to strangle him.

-Then she tries to bribe him using a car they apparently got for him. Now, this kid is 14. Unless I’m mistaken, and correct me if I am, you can’t operate a car until you’re 16 in pretty much all states. So she’s trying to coax him out with the promise of something he legally can’t use for two years. Her armor is starting to crack.

-“Calm down.” Love that one. They get hysterical, but the second you match their tone they tell YOU to reign it in.

-When he mentions being hit by her and she says, right on camera “I will hit you again.” She sort of tries to back track and say it was a spanking, but the kid brings up instances of being struck and choked, and near the end she tries to lock him in his room and prevent his escape. Now you see why he doesn’t want to go back.

All in all, that entire video made my heart HURT. To see a kid that young in pain, just makes me angry. At least it sort of had a happy ending; the two policemen (by the way, a couple of straight up smooth operators. Good job boys, you’re more of what we need) allow the kid to leave with his dad. I am friends with a fair few officers and they have stopped things like that from happening. So to repeat that it’s a civil matter and let him leave shows that they see what’s going on, they understand the situation and they see the mom is a psycho. They let him go because they know that while the courts may take him back, every second that kid is away from his mother is a positive place to be for him. Good job again, guys.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10076 <![CDATA[Reply To: Manipulative Mothers]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/manipulative-mothers/#post-10076 Fri, 12 Dec 2014 19:47:53 +0000 RoyDal @OldAtHeart Here is a video you might be interested in. It was posted this morning.

Terrance Popp — CAN’T CUT THE MUSTARD
There’s talk of lowering the physical standards in order for women to enter frontline combat, so Popp takes a look at the tests from the Center for Military Readiness, conducted by the US Marine Corps.

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