MGTOWIs MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 15:00:50 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/page/314/#post-61840 <![CDATA[Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/page/314/#post-61840 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 05:49:55 +0000 IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) There is a vibe, or underlying message I am seeing in some men on YouTube in their videos on MGTOW, down to Sandman’s revolution and so on.  That message is that the Sexodus will end up being so harsh that it will drive society to change as needed.  The idea is that, if enough men go MGTOW, then feminism will disapppear, gynocentrism will vanish, and we will have a world favorable to men, because it will change.  So, the idea I can see, men listen to this, is they believe they will just go MGTOW, it will have an effect of a strike and drive society to change?

Is that what MGTOW is about, a tactic to change society, the way a strike has with an employer?  Or is it more like a man quits his employer and goes to work for someone else, on his own, and doesn’t care what the employer does.  In short, it is society’s problem that a man does this.  It isn’t a strike at all.  A man goes MGTOW to strike out on his own, not wait for society to change as a result, and believing in some sort of mass brotherhood of members of a men’s union to cause their boss to change.

I feel the leaving an employer is more appropriate for MGTOW than the idea of a strike.  The strike idea seems to be an MRA’s tactic to change society.

Anyone else see this, and what are your thoughts here?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61847 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61847 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 06:07:09 +0000 ILiveAgain I just left … had enough …. walked out and never looked back.

I’m for myself (and daughter) and that’s it. I’m not even thinking what effect that may have ….. well I dream it may have …. but … well … who gives a s~~~ about this system?

Gmow is good for me … end of. Should enough men do it … good for them ….. if all men do it … good riddence to the system.

Crumble or not .. i just don’t care. If it does, I will join my fellow men and rebuild.

I’m a greedy f~~~ now. I just don’t give a s~~~.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61874 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61874 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:04:11 +0000 Darth Sin MGTOW is about gaining personal freedom.

As a historian, let me tell you something :- Society will only change when it wants to change. Otherwise, you waste your resources trying to change it. 

Women did not flood the workforce because of some conspiracy theory. Women did so because the environment and economic situation finally allowed them to do so.

Women did not decided to start hate men because of feminism and promulgate male hatred. Misandry from women and their chivalrous male slaves has always been around, only now it is being expressed freely since society allows it and tolerates it.

Cold War did not end because of some Illuminati or Jewish interference.  It ended because one side found itself increasing unable to continue waging the war due to economic and social circumstances.

Herbivore Men and MGTOWs do not exist due to some depopulation or global immigration agenda. We exist because the environment and situation necessitated and facilitated their existence.

So do not bother to change society, for society will change itself. It just takes a long time. Instead, focus on making individual and personal changes, firstly to yourself and then to a few people close to you.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61893 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61893 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 07:48:03 +0000 Jim01 pure freedom for me. I honestly couldn’t care less about anything else and just suit myself

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61960 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61960 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:22:18 +0000 FullMetalExo It’s MGTOW.

It is not a strike or battle against a system.

 

 

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61965 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61965 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:33:57 +0000 SMAD I believe the TRUE spirit of MGTOW is for personal freedom.  I am sure there are many guys here who wouldn’t be bothered at all if the world suddenly lost 99% of the population.

However, I imagine that others may use the MGTOW label as some sort of political leverage which I am CERTAIN every other movement does also in regards to its members.  Even with the dreaded feminism – there are some REALLY bad eggs that give feminism an even worse name – this has and will probably will continue for MGTOW.  But, seeing as our philosophy is to “go our own way”, people will interpret that as they wish to suit their own lives and agendas.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61968 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61968 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:41:35 +0000 KingOfTheSea I agree with Darth Sin; the very reason MGTOW works is BECAUSE it’s not a social movement or organized in any manner. Yeah, we talk on here but it’s not like there are marches or demonstrations for men to become MGTOW. The power lies in that each man, in his own time, comes to realize there’s nothing to be gained by following the “beaten road” society has made.

For myself, I chose it because it was the only sane road and I’ve come to believe it is the only road for men.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61971 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61971 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:52:03 +0000 By it’s very definition Men Going Their Own Way is a personal adventure. That said if enough men go off on their own path than it can create a ripple effect through society as well whether it was the intended goal or not.

I know I like the idea of that as I cannot stand the Politically Correct bulls~~~ and enjoy seeing how their Cause has created this Effect.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61979 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-61979 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:29:26 +0000 dav “Society” – it’s for women. When you hear women talk about it, they are actually talking about their safety net.

F~~~ society.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-62012 <![CDATA[Reply To: Is MGTOW a tactic for men to change society? Or to gain personal freedom?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/is-mgtow-a-tactic-for-men-to-change-society-or-to-gain-personal-freedom/#post-62012 Thu, 04 Jun 2015 13:58:51 +0000 experienced

For ILiveAgain,”I’m a greedy f~~~ now. I just don’t give a s~~~.”

Here’s reality. You are not a greedy f~~~. You contribute greatly to this forum. Your first avatar gave me the creeps and I’d always noticed it when it came up. So it’s noticeable about your positive contributions. If in doubt check your ratio of posts to stars. Men listen to you. With power responsibilty and yesterday lots of guys were saying well if that makes me an asshole then I’m an asshole.

Let’s not give the laydeez c~~~s of society an inch.  You aren’t greedy you are a result of the brainpilot’s synopsis of you’re nice to them they think it’s weakness they want half, it’s agreed to but then they don’t consider themselves as having crossed the finish line til they kick you to the curb.

You got your daughter which is hard to do in today’s court system.

Also, my hats off to you for getting us started to get KM to set up this site for safe donations. You think of us, you think of your kid, you think of KM. That’s generousity and not greed. And this is not f~~~ing ass kissing, it’s a warning that we’ve all got to gaurd against the fatigue that allows us to say negative things about ourselves like that. Women know not what generousity is any longer ie they expect everything thru entitlement. And women are the greedy ones by far when one looks at all their wants vs their void when it comes to contributions.

Keep up the good work!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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